Discernment ..........Correction.... and the BIBLE

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My discernment has matured to recognise that most of what you preach is “ fairy talk” man made fairy talk,

Month ago, Brightframe led you back into incredible error, and you are not recovered.
You can deny it, but i saw it happen to you.
This is why you now can't "discern" Episkopos, while almost everyone else on the forum does.
And this is why you can't Discern the Calvinism (Hyper) that owns your mind so that you can't hear Me, or Marks, or God'sGrace, or Eternally Grateful, and a few others who are tired of hearing your ."stuck on repeat"... "im born again to believe".. ,HyperCalvin nonsense.

You came from a Hyper Calvinism forum, to this one.. so, you are one of those for way too long now..
And im very sorry for you......because, this one Cult Theology, is incredibly difficult to escape.
Catholicism and Calvinism, are terrible mental strongholds that seen so TRUE when you are deceived by them...
I have hope.......but, as i watch you here, this last 8 months, just go deeper into it..refusing to listen, and telling everyone that you are "spiritual" "led of the spirit'" and the rest are not....... its just very sad.
 

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Your one big story teller who has convinced themselves to believe their own story, plus you are mostly on the defence.

Pauline Theology..
Just go there, and you'll find me every time.
You've not been there yet, but one day...who knows.. maybe your Calvinism will slow down and allow it.
 

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I do not believe for one minute that you are in the Spirit of Christ


I teach HOW to be born again by believing the Gospel, that you have to hear, before you can BELIEVE IT.

"Faith comes by hearing" "the Gospel"....
You teach that God caused you to believe it before you had faith in it, so that later you could have faith..... and that is not True.
 

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What a great witness you are for the Lord....NOT!

Certainly you are welcome to your opinion... And one day when you can write a Thread vs, just show up to Sell Calvinism on everyone elses Thread's..., then maybe you can start to be a witness for The Lord., instead of being a Witness for John Calvinism.

Ronald Nolette cant do it, and Brightframe cant do it..........so, you are in their company.

Till then... you and them....are only a witness for Calvinism..so, of course if im Talking About The CROSS and Faith in Christ as YOUR FAITH..., then you can't relate to it...and neither does John Calvin.
And...that is the FATE of any Calvinist.
 
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Remember, God gives the gifts of His Spirit—including discernment—for the improvement and growth of the body (I Corinthians 12:7).


There is a spiritual gift of discernment that the Holy Spirit gives to some when they are born again. We don't get to ask for this gift, it is sovereignly given.


1 Corinthians 2:14 “The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.”

Romans 12:2 “Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect
 
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I teach HOW to be born again by believing the Gospel, that you have to hear, before you can BELIEVE IT.

"Faith comes by hearing" "the Gospel"....
You teach that God caused you to believe it before you had faith in it, so that later you could have faith..... and that is not True.
You teaching of how one becomes Born Again is not biblical.

You have posted your testimony which doesn’t line up with the word on how we become Born Again.

I can discern your error a mile of, you believed in Jesus by hearing , that is not how we are Born Of The Spirit.

You post what you believe it means to be Born Again....hearing the gospel first, does not birth your spirit...just as the word says..,only the Living Spirit can penetrate the heart/ spirit, then take up residence in one’s spirit...,your gospel that you teach is not in line with the word of the spiritual rebirth and I will rebuke your claims that you gave your human faith to God that he accepted and you became Born Again, complete and utter nonsense.plus non biblical.

I continue to grow in Christ and will rebuke your unbiblical claims on how you believe you became Born Of The Spirit..,,you can’t even explain what the seed of God is..
How you honestly came to the conclusion that hearing the gospel birthed your spirit, God only knows, it’s certainly not biblical that’s for sure.

You may have some type of faith, it’s certainly not the supernatural faith that you are gifted by God to know him in spirit.

Being indoctrinated as I believe you are...is so strong in your mind, that hearing the gospel you actually believe you have been birthed by the Spirit Of God..not so.

God says that we are Born Of The Living Spirit, by divine heart revelation. Not by hearing the gospel..The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God..the scripture confirms this truth.

God is a Living Spirit we are His Living spirit children.

1 Corinthians 2:14 “The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.”

The scripture above is why you have no understanding of spiritual matters...you have no spiritual eyes to see and no spiritual ears to hear..,void of Gods truth and I will continue to uncover your deceit and lies on how one becomes Born Again.,a spiritual birth that you play no part in, no where in scripture does it say we give our human faith to God , that he excepts it, and boom were Born Again..absolute nonsense.
 
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Discernment ..........Correction.... and the BIBLE​

Discernment is not something that can be arrived at by debating it anymore than love can be arrived at by debating it.

Discernment as with Love are gifts given.....be thankful if you have and can or can and have.......and shy away from being a mouth/ pen in action with a miserable brain program masquerading as if.

Ohhh, wait, maybe that involves self deception? ......and will I take it upon myself to sort out all the erring pumpkins out there?.....God forbid!
 

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We don't get to ask for this gift, it is sovereignly given.

Your online commentaries are not good.

Romans 12:2 “Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect

Not a good bible version you posted...., however the "transformed by the renewing of your mind" is how the believer matures..... and that is begun by doing what Hebrews 13:9 says to do with your heart.
 

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Your online commentaries are not good.



Not a good bible version you posted...., however the "transformed by the renewing of your mind" is how the believer matures..... and that is begun by doing what Hebrews 13:9 says to do with your heart.
No, it’s began the moment our spirit is reborn, and will continue throughout our life.

You have no spiritual discernment ,it’s pretty evident by what you post.

You lack supernatural faith.,,you may have some measure of faith, but it can only take you so far....you have no understanding of what supernatural / spiritual faith from God is, that’s why you accuse us of being Calvinist..,,your spirit is not in the Spirit Of Christ I’m afraid.it hasn’t been reborn in spirit,my honest opinion..

[5] Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. [6] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.[7] Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
 

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No, it’s began the moment our spirit is reborn, and will continue throughout our life.

The Holy Spirit does reveal His insight into all things... that is the discernment of each believer.
This is not a "gift".. this is just the reality of the born again. "in Christ"
This discernment, is designed to open the verses and its designed to lead us in life, and its to be developed by using it.
It is innate, because its the Holy Spirit's knowledge.

You have no spiritual discernment ,it’s pretty evident by what you post.

Your opinion is whatever you decide next to believe.

You lack supernatural faith.,,you may have some measure of faith,

You are a silly woman, trying to pretend you are now an authority on the Scriptures..., as you paste other people's teaching, or a lot of verses you can't even understand.

You've a deceived Calvinist, who can't even discern this...about yourself.
You are one of those people who gets carnal feelings, and then pretends that's the Holy Spirit.
There was time, a year ago, when you realized you were doing that, and you would say you were sorry, and you'd go and think about it.
Now you just live in the carnal mind and follow others who are the same.
Episkopos will meet you there as much as you like.......... you'll see.
 
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The Holy Spirit does reveal His insight into all things... that is the discernment of each believer.
This is not a "gift".. this is just the reality of the born again. "in Christ"
This discernment, is designed to open the verses and its designed to lead us in life, and its to be developed by using it.
Its is innate, because its the Holy Spirit's knowledge.



Your opinion is whatever you decide next to believe.



You are a silly woman, trying to pretend you are now a teacher., an authority, as you paste other people's teaching, or a lot of verses you can't even understand.

You've a deceived Calvinist, who can't even discern this...about yourself.
You are one of those people who gets carnal feelings, and then pretends that's the Holy Spirit.
There was time, a year ago, when you realized you were doing that, and you would say you were sorry, and you'd go and think about it.
Now you just live in the carnal mind and follow others who are the same.
There is no point in discussing with you, as you will never get it, you have faith its not supernatural faith, your testimony doesn’t line up with the written word of how our spirit is reborn, no I am not a teacher, my teacher speaks through me,....good day..I like to be stimulated by talking in the spirit.

Your stimulation comes from arguing with members all over this forum, from your flesh,

In the same way that repentance is granted by God (Acts 11:18; 2 Tim. 2:25), faith is also a supernatural gift of God. Ephesians 2:8–9 affirms this: “By grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast
 

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There is no point in discussing with you, as you will never get it, you have faith its not supernatural faith,

You sit there in your little room, trying to post comments on the forums... so that you appear to be SPIRITUAL.
This is very annoying to the people who have some spiritual maturity.

Listen ... if you knew what you were doing, you'd know that your idea of "how to be born again" is ANTI- Paul.,. Anti-NT, and is 100% John Calvinism heresy.
You dont realize it, and so, that proves that your "discernment" is turned off, and that is what Calvinism does to you.
Quite a few of us have tried to help you, but you are determined to not be helped.....at this time.

And there is one more thing.... now that you have become a bible authority in your own mind @Ritajanice ,, and that is.. you need to post Threads that teach what you believe, as then you will find out what you can't understand by just arguing your "born again to have faith", and 'im super gifted" nonsense.
Post some Threads now that you are so self elevated, and see what happens, then,... little pride filled one.
 

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Discernment is a wonderful gift from God.

What is the spiritual gift of discerning spirits?​

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The gift of discerning spirits, or “distinguishing” spirits, is one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit described in 1 Corinthians 12:4-11. Like all these gifts, the gift of discerning spirits is given by the Holy Spirit, who disperses these gifts to believers for service in the body of Christ. Every believer has a spiritual enablement for a specific service, but there is no room for self-choosing. The Spirit distributes spiritual gifts according to the sovereignty of God and in accordance with His plan to edify the body of Christ. He gives His gifts “just as he determines” (1 Corinthians 12:11).

When it comes to the gift of discerning spirits, every born-again believer has a certain amount of discernment, which increases as the believer matures in the Spirit. In Hebrews 5:13-14 we read that a believer who has matured beyond using the milk of the Word as a babe in Christ is able to discern both good and evil. The maturing believer is empowered by the Spirit of God through the Scriptures to tell the difference between good and evil, and, beyond that, he can also distinguish between what is good and what is better. In other words, any born-again believer who chooses to focus on the Word of God is spiritually discerning.

There are certain believers, however, who have the spiritual gift of discerning spirits—that is, the God-given ability to distinguish between the truth of the Word and the deceptive doctrines propagated by demons. We are all exhorted to be spiritually discerning (Acts 17:11; 1 John 4:1), but some in the body of Christ have been given the unique ability to spot the doctrinal “forgeries” that have plagued the church since the first century. This discernment does not involve mystical, extra-biblical revelations or a voice from God. Rather, the spiritually discerning are so familiar with the Word of God that they instantly recognize what is contrary to it. They do not receive special messages from God; they use the Word of God to “test the spirits” to see which line up with God and which are in opposition to Him. The spiritually discerning are diligent to “rightly divide” (2 Timothy 2:15) the Word of God.

There are diversities of gifts in equipping the body of Christ, but those diversities are meant for the edification and building of that body as a whole (Ephesians 4:12). And the success of that body is dependent upon all parts of the body faithfully fulfilling their tasks as God has enabled them. No spiritual gift should be used to domineer others or claim for oneself a special anointing from God. Rather, the love of God is to guide our use of the spiritual gifts to edify each other in the Lord
 
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1 Kings 4:29“Now God gave Solomon wisdom and very great discernment and breadth of mind, like the sand that is on the seashore.” 1 Corinthians 11:31 “But if we judged ourselves rightly, we would not be judged.” Proverbs 3:21 “My son, let them not vanish from your sight; Keep sound wisdom and discretion
 

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Reader,

Its the word of God that is the Gospel that is the "seed of the word" that is the power......

Notice...

Paul teaches....."""We (the born again)... preach Christ Crucified"""'... so that is ..>>"Jesus died on The Cross for you sin, and rose again:."

And that is taken from a BIBLE......those words....and those very words are "the power of God, unto Salvation".. that is "the Preaching of The Cross"..

So, the word of God, is Spirit and Spiritual......as the word of God is "God breathed'... = Spiritual......and that is why it must be discerned., spiritually.

When we "speak the word of God".. that is often bible verses and that is POWER.......its not just speech.

Notice.....this....

Jesus fasted 40 days, and then Satan came to Him and tempted Jesus.

What did Jesus do?
He spoke the TORAH...........to the Devil.

He used THE BIBLE's WORDS against the DEVIL, because the word of God is POWERFUL.... Its a discerner of your heart, of your motives, and it KNOWS YOU.
Jesus said we must be born of water AND the spirit. That's talking about "the washing of the water of the word" AND the spirit. That is why it says Noah was saved by water. People are typically born again through the hearing/believing/receiving of the engrafted word that is being preached, as scripture says, but God is not limited and may also choose to save some folks and engraft the word on their hearts without the direct and immediate agency of preaching.

But it doesn't end there. After the initial salvation experience, we go on being washed and cleansed through the washing of the water of the word and Spirit. Being edified, instructed, strengthened, washed/sanctified in the inner man by the word of God and Spirit....having our feet washed regularly after having the bath........which as Jesus said even to Peter if he didn't allow Him to wash Peter's feet he would have no part with Him. (And this is tied to the Lord's supper whereby we are to examine ourselves and confess any sins or shortcomings and apply His sacrifice to ourselves afresh, as it were, by proxy with bread and wine.)
 

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The Bible is Not Alive in Spirit.error.

Romans 8:9
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You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ
Scripture is alive through the Spirit, but not without the Spirit. It is the Holy Spirit which gives life to the word/scriptures. Much like a body with a spirit is alive, but a body without the spirit is dead....likewise scripture without the Spirit is a dead letter. The spirit and the word agree................they go hand in hand. We must not reject one or the other....we need both together in this spiritual war we were drafted into. The word of God in the hands of the Spirit is the sword of the Lord....a mighty spiritual weapon. "Our weapons are not carnal but mighty in God...." God's word is a mighty weapon when it is being wielded by the Spirit, not the flesh. Kind of like if you have a match......and you have tinder.....you need both coming together to make a fire. A match by itself does not make a fire without the tinder, and the tinder by itself without the match does not make a fire.

I have seen things go badly awry when the Holy Spirit was being overemphasized and the word of God was being badly neglected. To the point where the Spirit was grieved enough to depart the place and another spirit came into the vacuum, which was hardly discernible. On the other hand in places where scripture is overemphasized and the Holy Spirit is rejected or neglected, that is lifeless religion and also leads astray. We need both the Spirit and the word in order to be in right balance with these things.....truth is a narrow road like a balancing beam in gymnastics.
 

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Philippians 1:10“so that you may be able to discern what is best and may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ.” Romans 12:2 “Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.”


Also correction can only come by divine heart revelation.

We can discern a false teacher a mile off...they teach from their own accord.

We know the voice of the Holy Spirit as we mature in discernment.

We can discern his voice...the Holy Spirit.....we can also discern the teachings of man made doctrine, fairy stories.
 

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Here are five ways to recognize God's voice:
  1. Learn the volume of God's voice. ...
  2. Learn the language of the Holy Spirit. ...
  3. Learn this unwavering truth: the Holy Spirit will never contradict God's Word. ...
  4. Learn to recognize the sound of His voice. ...
  5. Learn to verify the Holy Spirit's voice.

KJV But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. NKJV But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
 

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He also gives us discernment of those who argue from their flesh,

He shows us that we too can get caught up in the old man also...therefore we walk away and leave their arguing ways to God, as only he can show us the error of our ways.

He showed me my judging and arguing with members yesterday..he spoke to my spirit through one of the mods..I know her word on that topic was from God..100% ..he speaks to me through her quite a bit..

She has more maturity on behaviour, I can go off the deep end at times, I see that and I’m asking God to help me with it..
 
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Jesus said we must be born of water AND the spirit. That's talking about "the washing of the water of the word" AND the spirit.

Jesus said :::: "you must be BORN..,,.,again"... which is the literal context of = "born of SPIRIT"....

So, the reason you are "born...again".. is because this is the 2nd Birth........that is Spiritual, ....and the first birth you had was the natural birth, when you were born.

A Real Christian has 2 Birth Days...


but God is not limited and may also choose to save some folks and engraft the word on their hearts without the direct and immediate agency of preaching.

God requires that you Trust in Christ, by your Faith.

So, Paul says......"" How can they Trust in whom they have never HEARD?""""

Now, "preaching", is how you "hear" about Jesus, so that the Holy Spirit can reveal Him to you, as "TRUTH".. as "the Savior"..

This "preaching" is ....>>>"telling you about Jesus".'"Telling you about the Cross of Christ".....and that can be HEARD in a Song,, or by watching a movie.., or reading that I just said.......

"All who call on the Name of Jesus...shall be Saved"...

See...........God has infinite ways to "preach" = JESUS....to this world..........and all of them are Heard..... somehow., as unless you hear about Jesus, you can't believe in Him..
You can't place your faith in Jesus, if you have never heard about Him.....and God has many way of "preaching" that so that you can HEAR and BELIEVE.

I told someone here recently that the very best Christian i know, is a 78 yr old woman, who was a water baptized and confirmed Catholic, but she was nothing else. She was only a Catholic.
So, one Saturday night, in '1977, she was home, watching : "JESUS of Nazareth" the Movie.
It was the Premier of the movie in the USA.
Before that Movie ended having Preached JESUS to her Heart......She was BORN AGAIN by the Holy Spirit after she Trusting in Christ..... and she is a remarkable Christian... still.... all these years later.

So, Yes... God has MANY WAYS to Preach the Gospel......to the HEARER.

Absolutely.

..having our feet washed regularly after having the bath

The same word that is a "" Lamp and a Light and the Truth,""" ... when you believe it, and study it.. = will keep you clean, regarding your continuing behavior.
 
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