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Discussion in 'Christian Spirituality Forum' started by bbyrd009, Feb 18, 2020.

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    Taken Well-Known Member

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    Agree Give as you please or not..
    Deductif you please or not.

    The POINT was profit or non-profit, organization or not...it is up to the Giver to Give and TO deduct or not.
     
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    which i accidentally erased some in there, trackback for full quote

    we treated this several weeks ago, and i wont do it again here but i will say that Paul is speaking in code imo, and this "confidence" that we of course automatically assume is a good thing is prolly not, and "cock-sureness" is more likely what Paul was trying to express,

    "We are cock-sure, I say, and even wish we were already dead and partying with Jesus..."
    ("cock sure" by me can be site searched for more)


    which of course we never quote the payoff line--bc we imagine that that is it right narf--
    2 Corinthians 5:9 Lexicon: Therefore we also have as our ambition, whether at home or absent, to be pleasing to Him.
    {wherein i am just noticing the use of "at home" which is quite sublime, in the
    here we have no lasting home (city)
    the son of man has no place to lay His head

    vein}
     
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    ok, ty, i dont disagree, but this is apropos of what, again? Did i infer that Jesus did not know something in there?
     
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    lol

    the naive dialectic, the manna, Taken, will you ever eat it
    i mean dont if you dont want to ok, not bothering me any
    so you say anyway, but i might invoke any number of scenarios in which ppl, particularly "believers," become um "caught up" in a like a clone-thing, i would even say a "homospiritual" thing, a shadow of unity iow, "When We All Get to Heaven" and etc, perhaps
     
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    narf
     
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    the Bible is surely not Yah's Word, and It also is not the Book of Truth, which apparently does exist. Well i dunno about "exist" strictly speaking, but mentioned in Isaiah or one of the major prophets anyway
     
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    word
    as Paul said--just recently Quoted--a diff way, no one is apparently even a little bit interested in life, more abundantly. We are cock-sure, i tell you, and even would rather be already dead and partying with Jesus

    which i cant lie, i feel the ezack same way lol
     
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    well wadr imo you are commenting upon the obvious and ignoring the important part there, but regardless you will see Him come down the same way they saw Him go up yeh?
    :D
     
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    i beg to differ, imo Yah had left His dwelling place and was walking to them, in theirs
    "I am looking for you, right here where sin exists"
    Where are you?
    ah, so that is when that v will no longer be true then? wadr i dont think so, ok

    btw lotta good observations in that post, i do not completely disagree with many of your points ok
    just subjecting the whole to a little fire lol

    bc you still think Mercury or Apollos or whomever is coming to take you away, away
    right
    maybe tomorrow even, maybe the day after,
    but always in the future, yeh, never today see
     
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    which you have already received and understood, yeh?
    ok, ty
     
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    Then why ask questions about the Bible?
     
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    fwiw if i fully addressed that passage you would not be very happy i guess lol
     
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    Seeing how you do not believe the Bible is God's words, I can see why you wouldn't even bother. Not sure why we are discussing this with you when it is a moot point to you no matter what we say, right?
     
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    for this wadr you would have to get the naive dialectic, eat the manna i guess is how Scripture says it, and i would have to learn how to speak it lol, which i am not very good at yet. I mean i could try, but you are...not hearing yet, no offense, so...i guess for you at least, right now anyway, i am not the one, as much as i am tempted.

    I guess the v i already Quoted at you from that passage will have to serve there, if you would address that maybe
     
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    ? klingon? you got jokes?
    lol, put down jokes im getting herenow, ok
     
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    we're tired of this manna, give us some meat to eat!
     
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    no, it is not, mos def. you have no choice, at least in all giving below...15% of your gross, which who gives more than that?

    Ergo "deduct if you please, or not" is functionally untrue, and cannot be done

    you have been givien "credit" for a certain amount of donations, whether you give them or not, whether you give them to a "tax deductible charity" or not, which ppl still blindly do anyway, assuming they are more wholesome or whatever, who knows, more authorized i guess.

    But see Susan Komen wont tell women that vit D deficiency is a better marker for breast cancer than a mammogram, no, they still say "get a mammogram" yeh, which prolly causes any breast cancers even
     
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    i dont recall doing that per se, but i love Scripture, personally, and imo Word might certainly be derived from It; assuming it is heard anyway. All writings are beneficial... right, and imo the Bible is far and away the best, and most sublime
     
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