As previously pointed out; "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). That would seem to be all inclusive, everyone has sinned (save one). "If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us" (1 John 1:10). If we weren't all sinners, salvation via Christ would be a moot point.
Do you still sin?
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Why is asking for evidence of a claim funny?
Am I supposed to take your opinions as proof?
Why 'save one'? Why not 'save two' or 'save three' or....
If you allow one exception to ALL when do you stop?
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Hi Sword,
I don't think being a sinner discounts one from being holy in Gods eyes.
We can be both because being 'holy' does not mean being 'perfect' it means being in the service of God.
Think about the temple in Isreal. All the utensils and things associated with the temple were deemed to be 'holy' because they were being used for sacred service to God.
Christians have vowed to serve God in a sacred service too. The life of a christian is one that follows in the footsteps of Jesus Christ who was himself dedicated to the sacred service of God. Jesus was on a holy commission to offer his life as a ransom in exchange for many. So if we likewise use our lives in the service of God, we can be 'holy' in his sight due to the fact that we are doing Gods will through our obedience and application of his requirements in our life....and obviously when we preach the good news of the kingdom as Jesus did.
that would be true, they have titles "Mother of God" and "Queen of Heaven" for her. Jesus says there's no gender in Heaven but they insists on "Queen of Heaven". Bible says God always was and that Jesus is the Word of God made flesh and that the Word was in the beginning. Mary wasn't in the beginning, and certainly wasn't always was, she was made just as any other man and born into sin and condemnation just as any other human, but Jesus states that He is from Heaven.
Mary severed by being a willing servant to the Lord's coming into the world just as sons of men do. the Lord visited Abraham in the flesh and ate with Abraham in the flesh on His way to examine Sodom and Gomorrah. the Lord has no need of the service of another to come into His creation in the flesh. but to come into the world as a Son of man, for the salvation of man according to the Father, its necessary to do so as sons of men do. and is a fulfillment of:
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
but mother of God? no way, they will tell you its a translation issue but that's a lie for sure. languages aren't that far apart and they are well aware of the meaning of such. you're not suppose to know the real meaning of words translated you're suppose to believe what they say about it. and I personally believe the Lord has a real issue with this unwarranted worship of Mary, a wonderful servant of the Lord our God, an undeniable servant of the Lord in the league of Moses or David if you like, but God has no mother and there's certainly no scripture that supports any thoughts of an imaginary queen of heaven of any sort.
a factory is the mother of the car you drive but man is the creator of the car and the factory the car was made in. just because man makes his presence inside the car doesn't make the factory the mother of man.
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Gal 3:26-28
26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
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I see you going on the negative. But I see you never attempted to answer why did jesus say many times go and sin no more if it was impossable as you cliam. Even though Jesus said ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WITH GOG. But you say no. Am gonna believe for more. Is it possible to go one minute with out sin. Yes it is. 5 minutes yes. hour yes. day yes. three days yes. Why are you going for no?
Niether male nor female not marrying in heaven or married. This is why I have to ask if some of you ever read the bible.
This is called reading out of context. We are not utensils. You dont ebven know what it is to walk like Jesus. You dont do it but you come here talking about it as if you do walk like Him. I am really sorry if this sounds offencive. But enoughs enough back it up. I never saw you in here sharing what God did today ,this week , this month, or even this year or last years. Jesus had testimnoys ever day. If you were walking like Him you would have them and share themat least now and again. Stop trying to teach what you dont know anything about.
You dont think being holy is what ever.
God said were holy full stop and nothimng else. God never calls us sinners as I have been asking for scriptures that NO ONE CAME BACK WITH .
Because there are none. They all tried and completly failed. from misunderstanding.
Be were born into Adam there for we sin. We are NOW Born again into Christ. There for we are holy full stop and nothing to add. so DONT.
What is useing our lives what does that mean to you. I will bet right now it looks NOTHING like what YOU are called to. But surprise me please.
What is your calling and what does it look like. And what did Jesus do. Please show the similarities of what he did and you do?
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Mary was flesh and blood. Jesus was incarnated in a flesh and blood body. It was necessary to do it through a flesh and blood body.
God is a Spirit and not subject to His curse given to mankind through Adam and Eve. Jesus Christ was both flesh and blood and Spirit. Since Jesus' flesh and blood body was not sinful He was the Lamb that was perfect and His shed blood atoned for ALL the sins of the world.
Mary's body was not sinless and she died and saw corruption. Jesus' body did not see corruption and was changed to a glorified body by God when God raised Him from the tomb..
I see that sword is here tooting his on horn about how great he is over the rest of us.
God is a Spirit and not subject to His curse given to mankind through Adam and Eve. Jesus Christ was both flesh and blood and Spirit. Since Jesus' flesh and blood body was not sinful He was the Lamb that was perfect and His shed blood atoned for ALL the sins of the world.
Mary's body was not sinless and she died and saw corruption. Jesus' body did not see corruption and was changed to a glorified body by God when God raised Him from the tomb..
I see that sword is here tooting his on horn about how great he is over the rest of us.
You obviously dont know jesus only had 23 cromazones. They came from Mary. What about the other 23? He was fully God and fully man. I am guesing you never new this and probably 99% of people in here never seen this either. But because of the huge unbelief in here dont go looking for it. You wont believe it.
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It is my understanding of the word holy that it means "set aside". The children of God have been set aside as God's children. We should bare fruit to glorify Jesus' work on the cross. In other words we are to proclaim the salvation that Jesus atoned for on the cross.. We certainly are not to proclaim ourselves as sinless in the flesh. To do so puts a burden on those that might come to Jesus because they know there is no way a person living in sinful flesh can be perfect. That is the very reason Jesus atoned for their sins.
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