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Do you think the USA and Europe should protect Taiwan in a war with China?


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JohnPaul

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I'm with Trump, his views are a duplicate of mine, 100%. I served in the military, and will still lay down my life for my country.

The truth of the matter is that America must fall for the Revelation of Christ to take place.

We are witnessing how that will happen right now. It's just a matter of time before the left takes total control.

And again, I ask the Lord that I won't be here to see it.
Thank you for your service Charlie, I will lay my life down for my country as well, and I love Trump, God bless you.
 
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We have enough of our own problems to be getting involved in others, I don't care what other countries do as long as they don't attack us.
China is already at war with America. Has been for decades. And they have a whole bunch of American traitors within the government helping them along. They do not need to send in their troops since asymmetrical war means that China has already won. China controls Biden, McConnell and many other high-ranking politicians.

Chances are that under Biden and the presently treasonous American military, China will grab Taiwan and no one will lift a finger to help. So the Taiwanese are basically on their own. All these years the US has piddled around while China has taken control of (a) the South China Sea, (b) Hong Kong, and (c) large swaths of Africa. Just like piddling around while Russia grabbed Crimea and many other countries which were formerly in the Soviet Union. Russia now controls Western Europe, since Europe depends on Russian oil and gas to survive. Can anyone see how stupidly the West has handled its foreign policy? The answer to the energy crisis is buy yourself another tea kettle!
 
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Do you think the USA and Europe should protect Taiwan in a war with China?
OP ^

I think Europe should DO as THEY decide.
I think the USA should DO as The Constitution provides.

Does the US Constitution provide that the government CAN LOAN Taiwan FUNDS (with agreement to repay with usury, (interest) according to the agreement of a timely manner of repayment? ) Yes.

That SUPPORT...Yes, I would agree.

Does the US Constitution provide that the US government CAN GIVE funds, (and compel the American People to REPAY, GIVEN...(not LOANED) Funds? No

Does the US Constitution provide that the US government CAN Give American Lives, Give American Arms, Give American Ammunition, etc. TO PROTECT Taiwan’s nation, government, citizens ? No.

Does the US Constitution provide that the US government CAN DECLARE War Against the nation of China? Yes.

HOW LONG are Americans going to be DUPED into Corrupt sitting representatives, DECIDING, that American lives and the American People HAVE GIVEN THE Reps Power to Prance around the WORLD and FIGHT other nations BATTLES WITH American Lives, and the American PEOPLES WEALTH?

America HAS NOT DeCLARED “WAR” on another NATION since...
WWII.
YET, HOW many American Lives, American artillery, American Military, HAVE FOUGHT battles, FOR other nations, AT THE ENDLESS GRUELING ever demanding and forcing of the American People TO PAY FOR other Nations disputes?

Here’s a partial list...

1947–1949: Intervening in the Greek civil war

1947–1970: Meddling in Italy's elections and supporting anti-communism activities

1945-1949: Intervening in China’s civil war and establishing Taiwan

1948: Supporting anti-government forces in Costa Rica's civil war

1949–1953: Supporting anti-communism activities in Albania

1949: Staging a coup in Syria (it was CIA’s first coup)

1950–1953: Korean War

1952: Intervening in the Egyptian Revolution of 1952

1953: Orchestrated a coup in Iran and overthrew the democratically elected leader

1954: Invaded Guatemala and installed a puppet

1956–1957: Plotting a coup in Syria

1957–1959: Supporting a coup in Indonesia

1958: Creating a crisis in Lebanon

1960–1961: Supporting a coup in the Congo

1960: Meddling in Laos’ reforms

1961: Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba

1961–1975: Supporting civil war and OPIUM TRADE in Laos (look up “Air America”)

1961–1964: Supporting anti-government activities in Brazil

1963: Supporting civil strife in Iraq

1963: Supporting riots in Ecuador

1963–1975: Vietnam War

1964: Intervening in Congo’s rebellion (and bombing)

1965–1966: Intervening in Dominica's civil war

1965–1967: Installing, arming and aiding fascist Indonesian military government’s massacre of communists (2-3 million killed)

1966: Engineering an insurgency in Ghana

1966–1969: Creating conflicts in the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ), which is a region on the Korean peninsula that demarcates North Korea from South Korea

1966–1967: Supporting an insurgency in Bolivia

1967: Intervening in the change of the Greek government

1967–1975: Intervening in Cambodia's civil war

1970: Meddling in Oman's domestic affairs

1970–1973: Aided a military coup in Chile (overthrew democratically elected and popular progressive leader, Salvador Allende)

1970–1973: Orchestrating a coup in Cambodia

1971: Supporting a coup in Bolivia

1972–1975: Assisting anti-government forces in Iraq

1976: Supporting a coup in Argentina

1976–1992: Intervening in Angola's domestic affairs

1977–1988: Supporting a coup in Pakistan

1979–1993: Supporting anti-government forces in Cambodia

1979–1989: Arming, funding, training the Mujahedin in Afghanistan. This led to Al Qaeda and the largest network of Islamic terrorist groups in the world.

1979–1989: Used Saddam Hussein to wage a proxy war against Iraq. Funded and armed Saddam for ten years.

1980–1989: Financed anti-government Solidarity trade union in Poland

1980–1992: Meddling in El Salvador's civil war

1981: Attacking Libya in Gulf of Sidra

1981–1982: Engineering regime change in Chad

1982–1984: Participating in a multilateral intervention in Lebanon

1982–1989: Supporting anti-government forces in Nicaragua (the U.S. armed fascists, death squads, drug lords etc.)

1983: Invading Grenada

1986: Invading Gulf of Sidra, Libya

1986: Bombing Libya

1988: Shooting down an Iranian airliner

1988: Sending troops to Honduras

1989: Attacking Libya in Tobruk

1989: Intervening in the Philippines' domestic affairs

1989–1990: Invading Panama

1990–1991: Persian Gulf War, Part 1

1991: Intervening in Haiti's elections

1991–2003: Leading the enforcement action to establish a no-fly zone in Iraq

1992–1995: Intervening in Somalia's civil war for the first time

1992–1995: Intervening in the Bosnian War

1994–1995: Sending troops to Haiti

1996: Supporting a coup in Iraq

1997: Sending troops to Albania

1997: Sending troops to Sierra Leone

1998–1999: Waging the Kosovo War

1998: Launching cruise missile attacks on Sudan and Afghanistan

1998–1999: Sending troops to Kenya and Tanzania

2001–present: War on Afghanistan

2002: Sending troops to Côte d'Ivoire

2003: Orchestrating color revolution in Georgia and installing a pro-US government

2003–present: Iraq War, Part 2

2004–now: Inciting wars between Pakistan and Afghanistan in their contiguous areas

2004: Orchestrating color revolution in Ukraine and installing a pro-US government

2006–2007: Supporting Fatah, a Palestinian political and military organization, in overthrowing the elected government of Hamas

2007–present: Intervening in Somalia's civil war for the second time

2009: Supporting a coup in Honduras

2011: Supporting anti-government forces in Libya

2011–present: Arming, funding, training jihadists, Al Qaeda, and “moderate rebels” in Syria. Occasionally bombing Syria. And occupying the oil-rich parts of Syria.

2011–2017: Carrying out military operations in Uganda

2014: Orchestrating a color revolution in Ukraine and overthrowing a democratically elected leader.

2014–present: Leading the intervention actions in Iraq

2015–now: Arming, directing Saudi Arabia's participation in Yemen's civil war

2017-2019: Attempting regime change in Venezuela

2012-2020: Funding, orchestrating riots in Hong Kong.

2019: Supporting a military coup in Bolivia

1990’s: Funding Uyghur separatists and trying to break the Xinjiang province off China.

2022.. now intervening in the Russia and Ukraine conflict.

And now wondering IF WE SHOULD, intervene in China and Taiwan's conflict?

WHO IS PAYING FOR all these AMERICAN interventions?

Perhaps have a LOOK at the American TRILLIONS upon TRILLIONS of dollars of DEBT the US government has Racked up....AND Surprise...THE Same American government Reps...SO PROUDLY hand that PAYMENT of that DEBT.......TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!

And the American LIVES LOST? A casket and metal.
 
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Any direct confrontation from America towards China or Russia will result in a thermonuclear exchange... Good luck with that
 

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I'm with Trump, his views are a duplicate of mine, 100%. I served in the military, and will still lay down my life for my country.

The truth of the matter is that America must fall for the Revelation of Christ to take place.

We are witnessing how that will happen right now. It's just a matter of time before the left takes total control.

And again, I ask the Lord that I won't be here to see it.

What do you mean by that, Charlie, exactly? America must fall for the Revelation to take place? Do you feel America is some kind of nation in prophecy or something?
 

Enoch111

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Any direct confrontation from America towards China or Russia will result in a thermonuclear exchange... Good luck with that
Not necessarily. Everyone is fully aware that using nuclear weapons is a No-Win situation. When Putin threatened the use of nuclear weapons, it was pure bluster. China and Russia are leading in cyber-warfare. Who's to say they could not decapitate the American armed forces by sabotaging their electronics, since electronics are at the heart of all weapons today? Or sending an EMP attack on US soil so that they virtually shut down America? If they could totally shut down America for 48 hours, they would have won the war. And let's not forget that when it comes to the USA, China, Russia, and Iran are all allies to take down the Great Satan. There is also the possibility of using chemical and biological weapons, against which there is no defense.

If the USA had been really committed to stopping China from a Taiwan takeover, it would have already set up a serious protective barrier around Taiwan with the army, navy, and air force all involved. But that has not happened because there is no seriousness on the part of the USA. On the other hand, China is deadly serious and has the manpower as well as the wealth to defeat America. The US is no longer a superpower. See below:
U.S. Forces Ordered to Stop Using Gender Pronouns to Improve ‘Lethality’
U.S. Forces Ordered to Stop Using Gender Pronouns to Improve 'Lethality'
 
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Enoch111

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Everything is going as planed ! but who's plan is it ?
Of course Christians know that the Mastermind in the devil himself. And he is not alone either. He has vast legions of evil angels under him to do his bidding. Then he has all the human minions under him -- the political leaders of all nations. At the present time America, Russia, and China are all working according to Satan's agenda. Eventually the whole world will be looking for one man who can put things right. That is when the Antichrist will present himself as the "savior" of the world. And God will also send "strong delusion" at that time so that the unbelieving and ungodly world will be deceived.
 

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No, it's none of our business, we have our own problems here at home to deal with, like the border crisis and the acts of violence that have increased since this "administration" took over.
Guess what ......When you need a chip for your car ....It's suddenly your business. That or buy a horse.
 
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Don't China still have the ability to make any USA Warship dead ducks sitting in the water.
Going back some years ago the USA Warship was stunned dead in the water, they had no control over the ship and a chopper crashed trying to land on the deck because China had sapped it as well.
China got this tec from Russia.

I have not heard anything more on that subject.

Maybe the USA Warship could fire it's guns ? but it could not control the direction of the ship and they could not land the chopper.
Not quite ....If the US fleet stays in the islands west of the Phillipines .....the China is shooting at aircraft and not at ships ...Guarantee there is a war game that has predicted the outcome of that stratedgy. There no such weapon, other wise all ships, all aircraft is obsolete and China could use row boats to invade Taiwan ..they may tested something ....But much like their hypersonic missile systems .....not relaible. Keep in mind, if Russia was full throttle Hypersonic...Much more of Ukraine would be rubble by now. These weapon systems are experimental ....much like most of the Journalists that write about them ....

What's troubling is the amount of the pieces of weapons systems that the primary component is made in China ....F-22's and F-35's have a magent only made in China ...If we keep up stupid ....eventually we are flying Sopwith Camels that were restored at Fanatsy of Flight in Kissemme, FL ....
 
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Not quite ....If the US fleet stays in the islands west of the Phillipines .....the China is shooting at aircraft and not at ships ...Guarantee there is a war game that has predicted the outcome of that stratedgy. There no such weapon, other wise all ships, all aircraft is obsolete and China could use row boats to invade Taiwan ..they may tested something ....But much like their hypersonic missile systems .....not relaible. Keep in mind, if Russia was full throttle Hypersonic...Much more of Ukraine would be rubble by now. These weapon systems are experimental ....much like most of the Journalists that write about them ....

What's troubling is the amount of the pieces of weapons systems that the primary component is made in China ....F-22's and F-35's have a magent only made in China ...If we keep up stupid ....eventually we are flying Sopwith Camels that were restored at Fanatsy of Flight in Kissemme, FL ....
The USA War ship I was talking about was some years ago. sailed through China's waters and got sapped by something that wiped out all of the ships controls, could not steer the ship and the chopper crashed when attempting to land on the ship, because the chopper had all of it's controls wiped out bar mechanical.
So China does have such a ability to wipe out all computer systems, it looks like. so I have heard nothing on such that the USA has protected it's self from such. I would think that they have by now ?

But I am sure that Joe Biden is a Communist and his lot are setting the USA up to be undermined from every angle you can think of in fact.

I believe that Biden and Obama and baby bush are all Communist or Nazis, but one thing is for sure is they are all Socialist who have it in for the majority of people to lower all such people of a voice !
Freedom of speech has been undermined and we have typical idiots nowadays running about just like Nazis and Communist did dominating over people in how to think, Or else ! It's a fact ! They will work to totally destroy anyone who does not tow the line their way. Not to mention they are supporting everything that is not only depraved, but also sick or stupid, not to mention down right dumb !
Racial problems as well are promoted for a full on divisive agenda, promoting all the idiots on both sides and not the common ground that people truly need to unite a people within a nation at all.
The radicals should be exposed for the trash that they truly are, but the MSM have been exploiting the issues in fact. always whipping up hysteria for their idiot agendas.

Joe Biden is a total nut case ! he is insane ! he goes and demanded to whip a War in Ukraine, he wanted this rubbish and he created it all. Everything that he has done is just totally stupid. This is the way that only a moron goes about things. Look at his handling of Afghanistan and the Economy ! He is a total Moron in fact, no one could be so stupid ! yet the MSM promote this and totally attack the only one who can turn it all around, D Trump !

D Trump wants to empower the people of the USA, Democrats want to empower themselves over everyone like a mongrel dog.
 
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My position regaring Taiwan ...Leave Europe out of it ....Focus on Australia, India, Indonesia, Japan and others...That alliance is far more important.

I think I read about what you recall ...But it seemed that whatever happened vanished .....Maybe not an accurate account of what happened or what was predicted did not make sense ....In other words a weapons system that did not become fully operational ....Most of China's compute genius's are US Products. We educated them here ..After all, we educated the Leaders that staged Pearl Harbor and the attacks by Japen pre WW2. Remember Yamamoto was a US College Graduate, then spent a summer traveling across America before returning to the Empire ....He was the most asute "I Believe all we did was to awaken a sleeping giant." ..We need to stop that.

The latest breakdown that was hushed up at Brooklyn University or Baltimore University concerning gain of function research that resulted in a more deadly form of Covid ....Was Headed by a Chinese Scientist ....who is no longer here ....He should have been thrown in prison, He was sent back to China ....
 

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My position regaring Taiwan ...Leave Europe out of it ....Focus on Australia, India, Indonesia, Japan and others...That alliance is far more important.

I think I read about what you recall ...But it seemed that whatever happened vanished .....Maybe not an accurate account of what happened or what was predicted did not make sense ....In other words a weapons system that did not become fully operational ....Most of China's compute genius's are US Products. We educated them here ..After all, we educated the Leaders that staged Pearl Harbor and the attacks by Japen pre WW2. Remember Yamamoto was a US College Graduate, then spent a summer traveling across America before returning to the Empire ....He was the most asute "I Believe all we did was to awaken a sleeping giant." ..We need to stop that.

The latest breakdown that was hushed up at Brooklyn University or Baltimore University concerning gain of function research that resulted in a more deadly form of Covid ....Was Headed by a Chinese Scientist ....who is no longer here ....He should have been thrown in prison, He was sent back to China ....
China will win over Taiwan given time ! and China will win and take over Australian, just given time and China will win over the USA just given time, all 3 are facts ! because the people are fools and have been fools for many years now regarding China.

Who created modern day China ? Fools ! well smart investment with no morals at all but greed and not to mention the Lefty Mob had a plan to make Communist China come too dominate the world. They just added a Nazi flavour into simpleton Communism and you get a powerhouse that is totally driven to dominate over the World.

The UK had to attack Germany as to why WW1 was created because Germany was set to dominate Europe's Economy and WW2 was created for the same reason, because Germany was set to wipe out the UK Economically easy as pie, given the next 10 years, so by 1950 the UK would not be dominant economically. not to mention Germany would of grown in size much bigger.

So what can we do about China ? Well unless the people who invest in China get their chop China will march on regardless as it has. but if the outside investment in China dry's up ? then such as they will bring China down.

The Real power in this world is Commerce ! Not what the people want or Vote for at all truly, not even the governments really. It all comes down to money power and position and who truly owns you or dominate your Nation.

The Ukraine War is all about a huge investment in oil and Gas mainly to be made by Ukraine, with people with their finger in the pie going in for the kill for themselves, it's worth a big win. People like Biden will clean up big time ! Just like old Bush did with the Arabs oil.

But do the MSM bother to openly point out what Ukraine is all about and why the huge money Tax payers are truly forking out for here, it's for Biden and Co to get filthy rich truly in fact. When the real issue is truly a Slavic issue ! and that could be easy sorted out with a Vote ! but the Anti-Christ Zelensky will not allow a Vote by the people in fact, because he would totally loose around 8 to 1 in fact in them Lands.

So who is Zelensky working for ? Not the Ukraine people that's for sure ! as his mates are the Jews and the Nazis and the Socialist like Biden and the very rich who want to invest in the gas and oil in fact, So as too make a killing.

The USA do not give a rats about the Ukraine people and the history of Ukraine people have never liked the USA in fact.
So where has all this love for the Ukraine come from of late ? It's all BS just like the love for Russian people by the MSM so it's all BS in fact, because they are the same people in fact.

Russia dominated over Ukraine for how many years ? and the West did nothing at all in fact ! East Germany anyone Poland and all the people were killed for looking sideways by the Communist who shockingly bashed etc etc and the West did nothing ! Why well because they were people were not money ! So when it comes to big money to be made by a few Peoples, lives and homes truly means bugger all. Remember what the Golden Calf represented !
Sadly most people are fooled and taken for a ride by the Satanist ! as Jesus said of this world, Is full of deceptions and delusions.
 

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One glaring factor no one realizes or considers .....Who does China depend on to buy their products? The US first and the rest of the world second. Why would China think they could take down the US and then create a new source of income? Economically they collapse ...

The world idiots are converging on Egypt to pray to the Climate Gods ..Guess who is missing? China, Russia and Indonesia. I think South Africa sits this out as well. I'm amazed that coal mine opening India took the trip. This Red Wave better be massive tomorrow ....This craziness needs to be stopped in it's tracks ....
 

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There is a saying "no Farmer wants to own the world, just the field next to his." This really applies to CHINA. Yes, China is a LOCAL bully ... but China does not want to rule the world ... they just want to own the field adjacent to theirs. In this case that is Taiwan and the South China Sea.

China never annexed and absorbed Vietnam or North Korea when they clearly COULD HAVE and the US would have been powerless to stop it (short of open war with China that nobody wanted). What China wants is contiguous borders and access to resources to fuel Industrial growth. Australia offers neither. Control of US Ports guarantee China can get its goods to Market. Think of China like a GIANT FARMER running a home cannery. What the Farmer wants is what China wants.

That is just VERY SCARY if you own the farm next to his and he shoots at you if you get too close to His Fence or the creek between your properties.
 

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You can exclude Europe (since Western Europe cannot even defend itself against Russia). And the way the military of the USA is today, it would lose against China (which would be supported by Russia).
Totally agree with your understanding of this situation. Putin is a strategist. He will take advantage of such a distraction. As a matter of fact, he may have played a hand in it's creation
 
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There is a wide belief that China has the raw material wealth the US needs. ....Odd, since the lithium to make the car batteries, exist in the deserts of Nevada. Why aren't we mining that lithium? One desert plant found only in that precise spot and the Enviro wackos have the government convinced to prevent access ...There needs to be a working relationship with the EPA and the needs of the US Government ....That raw material acess is important ....work out a solution instead ..."You can't get there" So our own short comings provide a unecessary road block ....We are in deed ....OUR OWN WORST ENEMY ...

China will not be the one to defeat us ......We are doing this to ourseves and in Democratic Party form ....Blaming everyone else ......
 
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One glaring factor no one realizes or considers .....Who does China depend on to buy their products? The US first and the rest of the world second. Why would China think they could take down the US and then create a new source of income? Economically they collapse ...

The world idiots are converging on Egypt to pray to the Climate Gods ..Guess who is missing? China, Russia and Indonesia. I think South Africa sits this out as well. I'm amazed that coal mine opening India took the trip. This Red Wave better be massive tomorrow ....This craziness needs to be stopped in it's tracks ....
It's about domination ! over fools.
Remember that Jesus said, This world is full of deceptions and delusions. That's the Key ! to dominate over fools.