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Do you think the USA and Europe should protect Taiwan in a war with China?


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farouk

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Then they don't need our help.
At the end of World War Two, after the defeat of Germany, the US concentrated its resources on the Pacific War against Japan.

Canada organized a vote among its sailors to decide whether they wanted to use the Canadian navy for war against Japan or to continue the home defence approach only - some of the conscripts in the Canadian navy were recruited for home defence; this is why they had the vote on what they wanted to do next. So some of them sailed back to Canada instead of joining the US against Japan.

NZ (in theory a US ally) has been banning US ships from NZ ports because the US won't confirm that the ships don't have nuclear ordnance.

From your comments if widely held, I wonder if the US will adopt Canadian- and NZ-style approaches, when it comes to Taiwan.
 

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At the end of World War Two, after the defeat of Germany, the US concentrated its resources on the Pacific War against Japan.

Canada organized a vote among its sailors to decide whether they wanted to use the Canadian navy for war against Japan or to continue the home defence approach only - some of the conscripts in the Canadian navy were recruited for home defence; this is why they had the vote on what they wanted to do next. So some of them sailed back to Canada instead of joining the US against Japan.

NZ (in theory a US ally) has been banning US ships from NZ ports because the US won't confirm that the ships don't have nuclear ordnance.

From your comments if widely held, I wonder if the US will adopt Canadian- and NZ-style approaches, when it comes to Taiwan.
We have enough of our own problems to be getting involved in others, I don't care what other countries do as long as they don't attack us.
 

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We have enough of our own problems to be getting involved in others, I don't care what other countries do as long as they don't attack us.
I'm a Canadian citizen, BTW.

Isolationism historically means that things that happen around the world are viewed as not affecting the security of the US.

Henry Kissinger says that US foreign policy traditionally gyrates between isolationism and over-commitment.

It's interesting that when interviewer Diane Sawyer asked Syrian President Bashar Assad what Syria wanted from the US, he replied: "Nothing; just leave us alone."
 

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As most people here should know, there have been massive tensions in the Indo-Pacific region due to China's recent actions, a result of Nancy Pelosi suddenly visiting Taiwan despite their government's repeated warnings.

Some people think that there could possibly be a third world war on the horizon, between the USA, India, Australia, Japan and Taiwan all fighting China together:

Lots of Democrats and Republicans seem to be broadly supportive of the Taiwanese, but there is some unease and division among progressives and conservatives in both parties. Some Democrats of course think America should be more anti-war, and some Republicans are not enthused at the idea of spending more American lives and money to protect foreign countries with so many domestic problems and inflation and the Ukraine war still raging in Europe.
China says Taiwan issue could take it to "war" with the U.S.
The US could lose up to 900 warplanes fighting a Chinese invasion of Taiwan but would emerge victorious, says think tank

What do you guys think? If someone asked you whether you supported America and Europe protecting Taiwan together, how would you respond??

I haven't seen one single thing the Biden administration has done right, until Pelosi was escorted to Taiwan with fighter planes, with the USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier sitting off the coast of Taiwan.

They called the bluff of China and dared them to take military action against a top official of the USA supporting Taiwan on Taiwan soil.

If we (the USA) don't take action against tyranny, who will? We have been blessed with much for a reason. If we believe in democracy and freedom as we say, then we are obligated to protect that democracy and freedom wherever in this world it is threatened.

I would much rather fight tyranny/communism on foreign soil that fight it on our soil. Which is exactly what will happen if we don't take action whenever and wherever it takes place.

China doesn't want war with us, they will talk it, but they won't do it, not yet. They are not ready for that, and neither is Russia.
 
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Ronald David Bruno

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As most people here should know, there have been massive tensions in the Indo-Pacific region due to China's recent actions, a result of Nancy Pelosi suddenly visiting Taiwan despite their government's repeated warnings.

Some people think that there could possibly be a third world war on the horizon, between the USA, India, Australia, Japan and Taiwan all fighting China together:

Lots of Democrats and Republicans seem to be broadly supportive of the Taiwanese, but there is some unease and division among progressives and conservatives in both parties. Some Democrats of course think America should be more anti-war, and some Republicans are not enthused at the idea of spending more American lives and money to protect foreign countries with so many domestic problems and inflation and the Ukraine war still raging in Europe.
China says Taiwan issue could take it to "war" with the U.S.
The US could lose up to 900 warplanes fighting a Chinese invasion of Taiwan but would emerge victorious, says think tank

What do you guys think? If someone asked you whether you supported America and Europe protecting Taiwan together, how would you respond??
The purpose of our government is to protect our people.
After failures in Vietnam, Afganistan and Iraq; after costing tens of thousands of American troops lives for nothing; and after spending trillions to do so, I'd say NO!
We have had enough. Especially with China, it would be a no win scenario and maybe turn nuclear and cost our lives on the mainland. No, I say, Hear ye _ all countries: fend for yourselves, be responsible for your own lives. Besides, Taiwan will be a take over much like Hong Kong, no bloodshed, just a financial take-over. I think they can just come to a financial agreement without losing much freedom. Let them ask Budda for help!
And think about this: I believe we are either in or right at the precipice of the Great Tribulation. What will Jesus do? He is going to rid the planet of all unbelievers anyways! Will America police force that and join in Armageddon to fight against the Lord?
 

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The purpose of our government is to protect our people.
After failures in Vietnam, Afganistan and Iraq; after costing tens of thousands of American troops lives for nothing; and after spending trillions to do so, I'd say NO!
We have had enough. Especially with China, it would be a no win scenario and maybe turn nuclear and cost our lives on the mainland. No, I say, Hear ye _ all countries: fend for yourselves, be responsible for your own lives. Besides, Taiwan will be a take over much like Hong Kong, no bloodshed, just a financial take-over. I think they can just come to a financial agreement without losing much freedom. Let them ask Budda for help!
And think about this: I believe we are either in or right at the precipice of the Great Tribulation. What will Jesus do? He is going to rid the planet of all unbelievers anyways! Will America police force that and join in Armageddon to fight against the Lord?

I believe that is exactly what will happen, all countries fending for self, including the USA.

That's the only way I see the anti-christ taking control, an open range, one by one until all give up.
 

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I was reading Lamentations this morning and thought of this thread.

“Continually we strained our eyes, looking in vain for help. From our towers we watched endlessly for a nation that could not save us.”

(Lamentations 4:17, NCB)

All the nations of the world are going to learn this painful lesson.
 

Ronald David Bruno

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I believe that is exactly what will happen, all countries fending for self, including the USA.

That's the only way I see the anti-christ taking control, an open range, one by one until all give up.
I think he is already in control we just don't know who he is: A Rothschild, Klaus Schwab, Gates?
They are all atheists, and behind Eugenics.

What is Klaus Schwab Really About? | Armstrong Economics

Also, rumor has it that Klaus Schwab's father, Eugene was Hitler's confidant. Hitler believed in creating a superior world by ridding the world of the weak, similar to Eugenics. Depopulation has already begun with deadly vaccines imho.IMHO.
Eugenics theory is to reduce human suffering by “breeding out” disease, disabilities and so-called undesirable characteristics from the human population. Race can be added to this, if the elites don't think a particular race is beneficial or less "evolved". Follow that scenarion and these atheist/evolutiinist elites will certainly attempt to breed out all religious folks too. Eventually the world will be left with white supremists from Yale, Harvard or Oxford with IQ's of 150 with no history of disease and in top physical health. They want the world to contain 90% less people, so they must get rid of 7.2 billion or so, to exist and sustain that number with a high standard of living, that only a 10 % do now. Don't worry, these reprobate fools won't get that far, Jesus will soon intervene.
 
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JohnPaul

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The purpose of our government is to protect our people.
After failures in Vietnam, Afganistan and Iraq; after costing tens of thousands of American troops lives for nothing; and after spending trillions to do so, I'd say NO!
We have had enough. Especially with China, it would be a no win scenario and maybe turn nuclear and cost our lives on the mainland. No, I say, Hear ye _ all countries: fend for yourselves, be responsible for your own lives. Besides, Taiwan will be a take over much like Hong Kong, no bloodshed, just a financial take-over. I think they can just come to a financial agreement without losing much freedom. Let them ask Budda for help!
And think about this: I believe we are either in or right at the precipice of the Great Tribulation. What will Jesus do? He is going to rid the planet of all unbelievers anyways! Will America police force that and join in Armageddon to fight against the Lord?
My thoughts exactly Ronald.
 
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JohnPaul

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I believe that is exactly what will happen, all countries fending for self, including the USA.

That's the only way I see the anti-christ taking control, an open range, one by one until all give up.
We can take care of our own.
 

Charlie24

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We can take care of our own.

We can do much more than take care of our own.

I'm afraid if we "don't do that much more" what we have will be taken and given to another.

There is no nation on earth like America, nor ever has been, and we can lose it if we are not careful.
 
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Do you think the USA and Europe should protect Taiwan in a war with China?


Churchill said- "In war, one has neither friends or enemies, only interests", and that's just as true today, because if our politicos with dollar signs in their eyes think the war will profit them in some way, they'll support it regardless of what we think..:)
 

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Churchill said- "In war, one has neither friends or enemies, only interests", and that's just as true today, because if our politicos with dollar signs in their eyes think the war will profit them in some way, they'll support it regardless of what we think..:)
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We can do much more than take care of our own.

I'm afraid if we "don't do that much more" what we have will be taken and given to another.

There is no nation on earth like America, nor ever has been, and we can lose it if we are not careful.
We can lose it if we keep these commies in office, who do not love or care about America, but their pockets and radical ideas.
 

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We can lose it if we keep these commies in office, who do not love or care about America, but their pockets and radical ideas.

America has to fall in some way, it looks like it's the left that will take us there.

I hope I'm not here when its's finally realized America is no more.
 

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America has to fall in some way, it looks like it's the left that will take us there.

I hope I'm not here when its's finally realized America is no more.
It does not have to fall, only if we allow it, and us right wing conservatives will not let that happen, trust me when I say it.

By any means necessary.
 

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It does not have to fall, only if we allow it, and us right wing conservatives will not let that happen, trust me when I say it.

By any means necessary.

I'm with Trump, his views are a duplicate of mine, 100%. I served in the military, and will still lay down my life for my country.

The truth of the matter is that America must fall for the Revelation of Christ to take place.

We are witnessing how that will happen right now. It's just a matter of time before the left takes total control.

And again, I ask the Lord that I won't be here to see it.
 
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