Doe's God Destroy The Sole ???

[kcnalp]

I'm astonished any survived the flood...there is no record of Noah taking any fish onto the ark...

I think the fish would be fine in the Flood.

 

[kcnalp]

I'm astonished any survived the flood...there is no record of Noah taking any fish onto the ark...

If a person was not truly converted, then s/he was never truly converted in the first place.

Baloney!
1 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

You can't "depart from the Faith" unless you were in the Faith.

 

[2nd Timothy Group]

Baloney!
1 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

You can't "depart from the Faith" unless you were in the Faith.

Would that mean that our hearts would become re-uncircumcised? Is there anyone in the Bible who had their Abraham-like Faith stripped of their Hearts and had the Curse of Adam and Eve reapplied?

If anyone, I would think that would have happened to Peter, who led Barnabas astray, and the two together, led many others astray.

 

[Taken]

Taken Question:
Can you find anywhere in Scripture whereby a man is Converted and then NOT Converted?

QUOTE="kcnalp, post: 883582, member: 8624"]Matthew 24:13 (NKJV)
13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. [/QUOTE]

In Context:
That passage is NOT speaking TO "he who IS Saved."
That passage IS TO "he who", IS "believing", IS "following"... But, "IS" NOT "YET" "CONVERTED".

Falsely...(by man's interpretation) "Christian" does NOT define..."he who" "IS" Saved.

Falsely...(by man's interpretation) "Jewish" does NOT define..."he who" "IS", or "Shall be" Saved.

• God set the Premise:
OF he who shall be Saved...

Isaiah 45:
[17] But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation:

• Jesus set the Premise:
OF he who IS / ARE Saved...
and "them" who are NOT Saved.

2 Cor 2:
[15] For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:

It IS, bottom line...

Earthly person's...of the TRIBES "OF" ISRAEL...
• CAVATE...WARNING...NOTICE •
The unsaved..."Enduring" / " KEEPING", their "Faithfulness" TO God;
• is he WHO shall BE SAVED

Earthly person's ... " OF" Gentiles
• CAVATE...WARNING...NOTICE •

The Unsaved..."Enduring" / "KEEPING", their "Faith" IN Christ;
• is he WHO shall BE SAVED

They WHO "ARE" Saved..."ARE the CONVERTED"...IN Christ..."ARE" IN
"Faith- FULLNESS" TO GOD, TO Christ Jesus"
....
Hello...
"The SAV-ED" are NOT "hoping", They KEEP their Faith, (enduring) through trials, sorrows, power oppressions, worldly corruptions, fears of wars, nations against nations...

Hello...
"The SAV-ED".... ARE Forever KEPT ...
"IN Faith-FULLNESS".......BY;
THE POWER OF GOD".

• Remember "THE DIFFERENCE" Between that little ....THINGY...?

• The POWER of God "ONLY WITH" a man
AND
• The POWER of God "FOREVER IN" a man?

IF you ARE ... ISRAEL...OR a GENTILE...
And HOPING, "You" have enough POWER to keep your faith, in the Face of Enduring Worldly Fears...That's "You".

The passage:
Matt 24:
13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved.
Would definitely Apply to You...and seemingly to Also...(poster, 2nd Timothy Group).

However:
The passage that Applies to me IS:
1 John 4:
[4] Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he (Gods POWER) that is IN you, than he (man's power) that is in the world.

My soul IS Saved....Forever...
Expressly KEPT, "BY" Gods POWER "IN" me!

Men WHO "KEEP", Gods Power "WITH" them, "BY a man's own power", Shall BE Saved...
"IF", the man "IS" powerful enough "TO KEEP", Believing, through hard times.

"ARE" Saved...and HOPE "TO BECOME" Saved...
ARE Two entirely DIFFERENT Things.

• You might consider Accepting Jesus' Offering of Becoming SAVED, and Kept Forever Saved BY the Power of God, "IN" you.

Glory To God,
Taken

 

[kcnalp]

Taken Question:
Can you find anywhere in Scripture whereby a man is Converted and then NOT Converted?

QUOTE="kcnalp, post: 883582, member: 8624"]Matthew 24:13 (NKJV)
13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved.

In Context:
That passage is NOT speaking TO "he who IS Saved."
That passage IS TO "he who", IS "believing", IS "following"... But, "IS" NOT "YET" "CONVERTED".
[/QUOTE]
Well great then, you can do whatever you want to and still be saved. lol

 

[kcnalp]

In Context:
That passage is NOT speaking TO "he who IS Saved."
That passage IS TO "he who", IS "believing", IS "following"... But, "IS" NOT "YET" "CONVERTED".

Well great then, you can do whatever you want to and still be saved. lol[/QUOTE]

 

[Taken]

Taken said in a previous post.

In Context:
That passage is NOT speaking TO "he who IS Saved."
That passage IS TO "he who", IS "believing", IS "following"... But, "IS" NOT "YET" "CONVERTED".

Response:

"kcnalp, post: 884169, member: 8624"
Well great then, you can do whatever you want to and still be saved. lol

Salvation is Expressly A relationship, between A mans Soul, and The Lord God.

Spirit Quickening is Expressly A relationship, between A man's spirit, and The Lord God.

The EFFECTS ...
(EVERY hardship, trial, Burden, blessing, gift, treasure, comfort, relief, ) ...of a man's Saved soul and Quickened spirit...is Expressly a Relationship Between "that man" and "The Lord God."

Then there IS a plethora of Express Relationships Between...mankind and men.

OF course in "relationships Between Mankind and men"....an individual man can DO whatever "the man wants to do"!

That's not A Big Surprise.

The Surprise "IS".."OTHER" men "Dictating and Speaking for" an individual man "A mans WANTS" ...who has Neither spoke for himself or solicited another to speak For Him....Lies...he in no ways agrees with.

And the Bigger Surprise "IS"...the utterly Ignorant who fall for the Lies...and the corrupt wicked who perpetuate the lies.

Yep...every man CAN do what he wants...
And Per Scripture, that man Will bear as his own burden, the Consequences of his own actions.

Gal 6:
[4] But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
[5] For every man shall bear his own burden.
[6] Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.
[7] Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

There IS A BIG Circle...
Good AND Reward.
Evil AND Demise.

And Good or Evil WORKS in the middle.

Not particularly a newsflash...
Men perpetuating Evil Works...go to Great lengths to Hide their wickedness.

Not particularly a news flash...
Supporters of perpetuated Evil Works...ARE the Mouth piece patsy's...established to Take the fall, should the Evil come to Light.

Old anti-Christ Tricks...
New anti-Christ Methods....

Prophecy Foretold...
Prophecy continually coming to pass...

Yep a Converted man's LIFE SECURE.... temporarily subjected TO the Evil and Wickedness of men "OF" the World.

Not News.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[kcnalp]

Taken said in a previous post.

In Context:
That passage is NOT speaking TO "he who IS Saved."
That passage IS TO "he who", IS "believing", IS "following"... But, "IS" NOT "YET" "CONVERTED".

Response:




Salvation is Expressly A relationship, between A mans Soul, and The Lord God.

Spirit Quickening is Expressly A relationship, between A man's spirit, and The Lord God.

The EFFECTS ...
(EVERY hardship, trial, Burden, blessing, gift, treasure, comfort, relief, ) ...of a man's Saved soul and Quickened spirit...is Expressly a Relationship Between "that man" and "The Lord God."

Then there IS a plethora of Express Relationships Between...mankind and men.

OF course in "relationships Between Mankind and men"....an individual man can DO whatever "the man wants to do"!

That's not A Big Surprise.

The Surprise "IS".."OTHER" men "Dictating and Speaking for" an individual man "A mans WANTS" ...who has Neither spoke for himself or solicited another to speak For Him....Lies...he in no ways agrees with.

And the Bigger Surprise "IS"...the utterly Ignorant who fall for the Lies...and the corrupt wicked who perpetuate the lies.

Yep...every man CAN do what he wants...
And Per Scripture, that man Will bear as his own burden, the Consequences of his own actions.

Gal 6:
[4] But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
[5] For every man shall bear his own burden.
[6] Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.
[7] Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

There IS A BIG Circle...
Good AND Reward.
Evil AND Demise.

And Good or Evil WORKS in the middle.

Not particularly a newsflash...
Men perpetuating Evil Works...go to Great lengths to Hide their wickedness.

Not particularly a news flash...
Supporters of perpetuated Evil Works...ARE the Mouth piece patsy's...established to Take the fall, should the Evil come to Light.

Old anti-Christ Tricks...
New anti-Christ Methods....

Prophecy Foretold...
Prophecy continually coming to pass...

Yep a Converted man's LIFE SECURE.... temporarily subjected TO the Evil and Wickedness of men "OF" the World.

Not News.

Glory to God,
Taken

OSAS is a Satanic trap.

 

[kcnalp]

Taken Question:
Can you find anywhere in Scripture whereby a man is Converted and then NOT Converted?

1 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

You can't "depart from the Faith" unless you were in the Faith.

 

[Taken]

OSAS is a Satanic trap.

Should Satan be WHO one follows, their choice.

However My Lord and Savior is Christ the Lord Jesus...WHO; Offered Once, Gave Once, Accepts Once, And Gives Once and Forever His Salvation and Quickening.

He's a no-nonsense Straight forward Truth.

If that doesn't suit you...your choice to reject.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[kcnalp]

Luke 13:24 (NKJV)
24 "Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able."