Rella ~ I am a woman
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Yes, but education from either side to new viers is valuable.... And every now and again a newer point will be found and should be shared.
But there you have it. One has to believe that the first century generation was the one that
was being talked about and not the generation of God's children... or more pecisely
Matt 24:34 " Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled"
Greek (Interlinear) NOTICE the use of the word genea.
34 amēn legō hymin hoti ou mē parelthē hē genea hautē heōs an panta
34 ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν ὅτι οὐ μὴ παρέλθῃ ἡ γενεὰ αὕτη ἕως ἂν πάντα
tauta genētai
ταῦτα γένηται .
Peshitta
34 אמין אמר אנא לכון דלא תעבר שרבתא הדא עדמא דהלין כלהין נהוין܂
34 αμην λεγω υμιν ου μη παρελθη η γενεα αυτη εως αν παντα ταυτα γενηται
Strong's
Strong's Greek: 1074. γενεά (genea) -
From: ( Bolding etc are mine) Generation is a wrong translation choice for Greek genea
2. The meaning of genea As I shall discuss the meaning of genea in the following, I am well aware that I go against a tradition, which is especially strong in the English-speaking world. Who is this generation? Briefly stated, the tradition more or less equates the word genea with English ‘generation’. This may work in a few places, especially when the word occurs in the plural form, but in the phrase “this genea” it is misleading to use “generation.” It does not seem to agree with the meaning of the Greek phrase or the Hebrew behind it, and it does not make good sense in most places where the word occurs in the New Testament. Rather, genea means ‘a class of people bound together through a common origin or with a common bond.’ In certain contexts genea does have the very restricted sense of the English “generation,” but in most contexts it does not have this narrow sense. The English word “generation” has undergone a semantic shift so that the meaning today is very much narrowed down as compared to the Greek genea, the Latin generatio and “generation” in the English language as spoken when the King James translation was first made. Even the Vulgate translation used four different Latin words to translate genea, one of which is generatio. But the word generatio is used to translate other Greek words as well, for example, Matt 1:1 genesis (GNB: family record) and Luke 22:18 genēma (fruit). In Danish we have the word “generation” as a modern adopted word. It has the same area of meaning as the corresponding English word, but it is never used to translate genea in the New Testament. In English there is evidence that the area of meaning of “generation” has narrowed down considerably since the time of the KJV translation. The evidence is that the word gennēma ‘brood’ in Matt 3:7 is translated by “generation” in KJV as well as the word genos ‘race, people’ in 1 Pet 2:9. The Oxford Universal Dictionary gives the following, now obsolete (latest attested use 1727) sense of “generation”: “class, kind or set of persons.”
IOW: for me... it is all encompassing those of us who would or should be encompassed.
And as I said before...
Strong's ....
Strong's Greek: 1074. γενεά (genea) -- race, family, generation
Original Word: γενεά, ᾶς, ἡ Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine Transliteration: genea Phonetic Spelling: (ghen-eh-ah') Definition: race, family, generation Usage: a generation; if repeated twice or with another time word, practically indicates infinity of time.And if repeated with another time word... = infinity of time. = Mathew 24:34
Which is why I keep looking.
If those words were clear, I could understand. But to me they are not.
unto this day.) (unto this day which Paul is writing those who are in Rome, in his day which would be God blinding those then there.)
