Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

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Jack

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Would you say Satan still has control today? If so why?
Look out your window Matt. Nearly all big cities in the US are CESS POOLS of crime and murder. You live in your own little world that doesn't exist.
 

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Look out your window Matt. Nearly all big cities in the US are CESS POOLS of crime and murder. You live in your own little world that doesn't exist.
Human beings are evil… they are no different than myself.
 

MatthewG

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Satan is this prince of this world not King.
The book of job clearly tells and demonstrates that God is in charge and that satan can only do what God allows.
Okay. I don’t believe the devil has any effect in the world other than his representation of the power of the darkness. The darkness can consume one’s life.

But if your eyes are unhealthy, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!
 

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Human beings are evil… they are no different than myself.
Yeah, Satan's children.

1 John 3:10
10 In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother.
 
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Okay. I don’t believe the devil has any effect in the world other than his representation of the power of the darkness. The darkness can consume one’s life.

But if your eyes are unhealthy, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!
Given the evil in the world,how do you explain that? If,as you say,Satan has no effect.
 

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Do people forget Adam and Eve ate off the tree of knowledge of good and evil…
1 Peter 5:8
8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
 

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1 Peter 5:8
8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
”Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.“
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭1‬:‭1‬-‭2‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

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Yeah, Satan's children.

1 John 3:10
10 In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother.

”Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.“
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3‬:‭1‬-‭12‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

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Do people forget Adam and Eve ate off the tree of knowledge of good and evil…
The tree that God planted and contained the same knowledge as that of God, the knowledge of good and evil.

The scripture tells us, the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.
 

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”Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.“
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭1‬:‭1‬-‭2‬ ‭KJV‬‬
And?
 

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”Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.“
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3‬:‭1‬-‭12‬ ‭KJV‬‬
Matt, Matt, Matt, why do you pick a few verses you like and reject the rest? That's the road to Hell fire that you don't believe in!
 

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The tree that God planted and contained the same knowledge as that of God, the knowledge of good and evil.

The scripture tells us, the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.
Scripture also says the devil is done away with.

According to John’s vision, written to the 7 churches who are warned of the imitate coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.

”And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.“
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20‬:‭7‬-‭10‬ ‭KJV‬‬


”And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.“
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20‬:‭11‬-‭15‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

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Matt, Matt, Matt, why do you pick a few verses you like and reject the rest? That's the road to Hell fire that you don't believe in!

Satan LOVES that LIE!
”When the 1000 years are ended, Satan will be made free from his prison. He will go out to trick the nations in all the earth, the nations known as Gog and Magog. Satan will gather the people for battle. There will be more people than anyone can count, like sand on the seashore. I saw Satan’s army march across the earth and gather around the camp of God’s people and the city that God loves. But fire came down from heaven and destroyed Satan’s army. And he (the one who tricked these people) was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur with the beast and the false prophet. There they would be tortured day and night forever and ever.“
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20‬:‭7‬-‭10‬ ‭ERV‬‬

I believe these things happened.
 
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”When the 1000 years are ended, Satan will be made free from his prison. He will go out to trick the nations in all the earth, the nations known as Gog and Magog. Satan will gather the people for battle. There will be more people than anyone can count, like sand on the seashore. I saw Satan’s army march across the earth and gather around the camp of God’s people and the city that God loves. But fire came down from heaven and destroyed Satan’s army. And he (the one who tricked these people) was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur with the beast and the false prophet. There they would be tortured day and night forever and ever.“
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20‬:‭7‬-‭10‬ ‭ERV‬‬

I believe these things happened.
Now you believe in the everlasting Hell?
 

MatthewG

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Now you believe in the everlasting Hell?
How can it be everlasting when it is done away with?


”And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.“
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20‬:‭11‬-‭15‬ ‭KJV‬‬