Does the Jews and Israel exist?

[MatthewG]

Israel still exist today: here is some information about Jerusalem if you are interested: Interesting History ~ Jerusalem

 

[theefaith]

Israel still exist today: here is some information about Jerusalem if you are interested: Interesting History ~ Jerusalem

gal 4 New Jerusalem is our mother

 

[Truman]

Leafs suck!

Go Jets!

I can't argue with that. Lol

 

[Keraz]

Israel still exist today: here is some information about Jerusalem if you are interested: Interesting History ~ Jerusalem

Yes; a bunch of people with a Zionist and communistic agenda have formed a small nation in the Middle East. The claim Jewish descent and call their nation Israel. Neither with any proof of their right to do so.
If people just read the Prophetic Word, they should see what their fate will be:

These scriptures from the prophet Jeremiah, are written to the Jewish people. As nothing like what is described has happened in their history as yet, then all this must be a future event.

Jeremiah 4:3-4 These are the Words of the Lord to the people of Judah and Jerusalem: Prepare the ground, do not sow among thorns. Circumcise yourselves to the service of the Lord, you people of Judah, dwellers in the Land. Or else the fire of My fury may blaze up and burn unquenched, because of your evil actions.


Jeremiah 4:5-9 Declare this in all Judah; blow the trumpet throughout the Land. Joel 2:1-11 Assemble into fortified areas, raise the signal- To Zion! Make for safety without delay, for disaster is approaching. The Destroyer of nations has risen from His lair, He is coming to devastate your Land. To make your cities waste and empty. Go into mourning, for the fierce anger of the Lord is not averted from us. On that Day, your leaders and officers will fail, your Rabbis and prophets will be punished. Jeremiah 13:11

Jeremiah 4:11-13 At that time, the people of Jerusalem will be told: A scorching wind from the desert heights bears down upon My people. It is more than a breeze for winnowing. A wind too strong for this will come at My bidding and this will be a judgement on them. It comes like clouds advancing, a whirlwind and storms, like attacking cavalry and swifter that eagles. Woe to us! For we are ruined. Jeremiah 13:24-25, Isaiah 22:1-14


Jeremiah 4:14-18 & 21 Jerusalem: cleanse your wrongdoings from your hearts and you may yet be saved. How long will you keep to your evil ways?
The news of this terrible event comes to us from the North. Tell the nations, proclaim the doom of Jerusalem. A great horde is coming from a distant place, shouting out against the cities of Judah. She is encircled by it because they have rebelled against their Maker. Their own ways and deeds have brought these things upon you, this is your punishment for your rebellion seated deep within you. How long must I warn them? But My people are foolish, they know nothing of Me, they lack understanding and know nothing of doing right.

Jeremiah 4:19-20 Oh how I writhe in anguish! I cannot keep silent, for I can hear the sounds of the battle cries. Crash follows crash and the whole Land goes down in ruin. Suddenly, it happens, in an instant – all is thrown down. Zephaniah 1:1-18

Jeremiah 4:29 At the sound of the approaching disaster, everyone is in flight, people crawl into the bushes and climb up the hills. Every town is deserted, no one lives there. Isaiah 6:11-13, Jeremiah 10:18, Revelation 6:15-17

Jeremiah 4:23-28 I looked at the earth and it was in chaos, reeling to and fro and in darkness. No person could be seen. I looked, and the land was like a wilderness with the towns ruined and desolate, because of the fierce anger of the Lord. The whole earth will be in mourning for this, for now that I have made known My purpose, I shall not relent or change it.
Reference: REB. Some verses abridged

 

[kcnalp]

You have jumped to conclusions about my understanding.
The KoG of God is no longer with the nation of Israel, with their earthly Jerusalem, who is still looking for a messiah. Except for the remnant of Jews, who do come to God through faith in Christ, the majority of Jews are just as lost as any Gentile who refuses to believe in Jesus. With God, there is NO difference between Jew and Gentile. All are called to His Grace through Christ.
Again, whether Jew or Gentile, if they don't come, they are eternally lost, with NO second chances!

So if you fall away you will have "NO second chance"? Too bad.

 

[kcnalp]

Yes; a bunch of people with a Zionist and communistic agenda have formed a small nation in the Middle East.

Were you born saved? Why do you hate Israel?

 

[MatthewG]

People are people doing people things while doing business in the Realm of Happiness here on earth in the flesh. Doing what we want when want how we want. Only answer for salvation - Christ Jesus. Freedom.

 

[Keraz]

Were you born saved? Why do you hate Israel?

The question is: Are the current citizens of the Jewish State of Israel, born saved?
And if you think they are, please explain why they hate Jesus.

 

[kcnalp]

The question is: Are the current citizens of the Jewish State of Israel, born saved?
And if you think they are, please explain why they hate Jesus.

So you're saying they can't repent? Hmm, while you're pointing your finger look how many of your fingers are pointing back at you. I think you're jealous of Israel!

 

[theefaith]

Yes; a bunch of people with a Zionist and communistic agenda have formed a small nation in the Middle East. The claim Jewish descent and call their nation Israel. Neither with any proof of their right to do so.
If people just read the Prophetic Word, they should see what their fate will be:

These scriptures from the prophet Jeremiah, are written to the Jewish people. As nothing like what is described has happened in their history as yet, then all this must be a future event.

Jeremiah 4:3-4 These are the Words of the Lord to the people of Judah and Jerusalem: Prepare the ground, do not sow among thorns. Circumcise yourselves to the service of the Lord, you people of Judah, dwellers in the Land. Or else the fire of My fury may blaze up and burn unquenched, because of your evil actions.


Jeremiah 4:5-9 Declare this in all Judah; blow the trumpet throughout the Land. Joel 2:1-11 Assemble into fortified areas, raise the signal- To Zion! Make for safety without delay, for disaster is approaching. The Destroyer of nations has risen from His lair, He is coming to devastate your Land. To make your cities waste and empty. Go into mourning, for the fierce anger of the Lord is not averted from us. On that Day, your leaders and officers will fail, your Rabbis and prophets will be punished. Jeremiah 13:11

Jeremiah 4:11-13 At that time, the people of Jerusalem will be told: A scorching wind from the desert heights bears down upon My people. It is more than a breeze for winnowing. A wind too strong for this will come at My bidding and this will be a judgement on them. It comes like clouds advancing, a whirlwind and storms, like attacking cavalry and swifter that eagles. Woe to us! For we are ruined. Jeremiah 13:24-25, Isaiah 22:1-14


Jeremiah 4:14-18 & 21 Jerusalem: cleanse your wrongdoings from your hearts and you may yet be saved. How long will you keep to your evil ways?
The news of this terrible event comes to us from the North. Tell the nations, proclaim the doom of Jerusalem. A great horde is coming from a distant place, shouting out against the cities of Judah. She is encircled by it because they have rebelled against their Maker. Their own ways and deeds have brought these things upon you, this is your punishment for your rebellion seated deep within you. How long must I warn them? But My people are foolish, they know nothing of Me, they lack understanding and know nothing of doing right.

Jeremiah 4:19-20 Oh how I writhe in anguish! I cannot keep silent, for I can hear the sounds of the battle cries. Crash follows crash and the whole Land goes down in ruin. Suddenly, it happens, in an instant – all is thrown down. Zephaniah 1:1-18

Jeremiah 4:29 At the sound of the approaching disaster, everyone is in flight, people crawl into the bushes and climb up the hills. Every town is deserted, no one lives there. Isaiah 6:11-13, Jeremiah 10:18, Revelation 6:15-17

Jeremiah 4:23-28 I looked at the earth and it was in chaos, reeling to and fro and in darkness. No person could be seen. I looked, and the land was like a wilderness with the towns ruined and desolate, because of the fierce anger of the Lord. The whole earth will be in mourning for this, for now that I have made known My purpose, I shall not relent or change it.
Reference: REB. Some verses abridged

New Testament also

1 thes 2:14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:

15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

 

[Keraz]

So you're saying they can't repent? Hmm, while you're pointing your finger look how many of your fingers are pointing back at you. I think you're jealous of Israel!

Seems that all you can do is to make nasty and false accusations.

Don't you realize that I and most here, know why you do it?
You have to have the Jews on earth and finally redeemed while you are 'raptured' and go to live in heaven. This belief is totally unscriptural and will never happen.
Our destiny is to be the people of God on earth, thru many trials and testing. Wrong beliefs may cause loss of faith.

 

[kcnalp]

Seems that all you can do is to make nasty and false accusations.

Did you even read what you just said? You're accusing me of what you just did. So you can repent but they can't? Your hatred for Israel is showing.

Don't you realize that I and most here, know why you do it?

You're a mind reader now?

You have to have the Jews on earth and finally redeemed while you are 'raptured' and go to live in heaven. This belief is totally unscriptural and will never happen.
Our destiny is to be the people of God on earth, thru many trials and testing. Wrong beliefs may cause loss of faith.

Guess where Jesus will return. Hint: Not New Zealand!

Zechariah 14:1-12 (NKJV)
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, ...
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; ...
3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. ...

Gee, I hope you nor your loved ones are in this group of Israel haters!

12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.

 

[Truman]

I can't argue with that. Lol

Once, about a week before Christmas, I broke down at Portage and Main, during rush-hour! Brrr!

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

The question is: Are the current citizens of the Jewish State of Israel, born saved?
And if you think they are, please explain why they hate Jesus.

All people who are not truly born again have no true faith in Jesus Christ and that's why they look to a State of so called Jews for their salvation, in fact that's what the poor blighters are doing.
They have faith in a Mans works ! one only has to just look what they are claiming and doing, it's all about this so called State to them that they yearn for. because they have no real true faith is Jesus Christ in fact.

Once one is truly Saved Born again such a one needs nothing of such temptations, because one can see through the temptations.

If one knew about the faith that can move mountains is truly the work of God, then one understands that faith can grow, many who have faith is just blind faith sadly and Bible says, Oh you of little faith. such is big difference ! blind faith in Man is one that the cares of this world can strangle such, but the faith that can move mountains so to speak is from God in fact and that's it ? if we all could have faith in Jesus Christ we can move mountains, that's what it is like in the Kingdom of God, such will come and it's called the second coming. Some have it now it's within their grasp, just as it was with anyone who was born over the last 2000 years. but the Satanist who claim to be Christians claim such is not so, they have another Jesus, this one is the one that the blighted Jews wanted and that's why they wanted Jesus Christ killed. such is a god Idol of Religion a religion of mans works.
Religion never Saved any ones Soul.

Once truly born again one is with Jesus Christ abiding in him and he in you, it's a fellowship of all in one Body. fact is in such a Body their is no Jew or Greek as all are the same under Christ Jesus.
If one claims that their is a Jew and a Greek well they are devoid of Jesus Christ for a start. so such a one is not truly born again in fact. not to mention that such a one is rejecting Jesus Christ in fact. because they have no true faith in him but are baking up the wrong tree.
Who would go looking for the so called Jews for guidance ? only the lost. such a one could look to Islam because it's much the same thing, just works of Man, full of madness and dribble ! oh look we are bring in the Kingdom of god Man can not bring in the Kingdom of God in fact. Socialist make claims as a Kingdom of Man or brotherhood of Man, because such is of their works. such is a curse and damnation because it's under the power of Sin.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I hear the term Judah Christian values mentioned in the last maybe 10 years and I though what the hell is that truly mean.

To me it was always Christian values period !

Then came this dribble of Jew worship and the 2ed coming dribble that has been played with, the left below game play.

I ask myself why do they have to add Judah to Christian values nowadays ?

Christian values stood solid once.

Or is it that Judah values have taken over Christian values nowadays ? I think so, Christian values do not truly exist anymore one could say, oh they are still about but not truly valued by any Christian denomination nowadays.

The days are coming where it will be Islamic Judah Christian values that they will be crowing on about, then what Buddha Islamic Judah Christian values ? just mix them all up and enjoy.

I have seen Buddhism mixed up and bastardised over the years as well, some value was seen in what they were claiming once as truthful direction as is any religion but of what I have seen of such on TV is a joke in the last 20 years becoming just total dribble.
I once watched a series called Monkey Magic 1979, their was a message in each show to be learned and in the last 10 years they have made modern versions of such that are totally depraved, not to mention such is total insult.

Judah values were bastardised 2000 years ago in fact and that's why they fell in fact and Jesus Christ came to save the Israelites in fact, so why do idiots insist on calling such Judah Christian values.

Nowadays we have Politically Correct values ! well what is that ? Socialism ! Humanism, were a goat has the same value as a human etc because all has a bases on a number, such are all treated as cattle. your dog is now one of your family now with equal rights to you.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Seems that all you can do is to make nasty and false accusations.

Don't you realize that I and most here, know why you do it?
You have to have the Jews on earth and finally redeemed while you are 'raptured' and go to live in heaven. This belief is totally unscriptural and will never happen.
Our destiny is to be the people of God on earth, thru many trials and testing. Wrong beliefs may cause loss of faith.

The Bible and things in it will come true, we can’t spiritualise them or claim because they do not fit our beliefe they must not be true.

either way, whether the rapture happens or not, or whether all Israel will be saved as we are told or not has no bearing on anyone’s salvation. We don’t need Not have to have them happen to strengthen our faith or make our faith real, God is what does that

the fact people on both sides can be rude against other brothers and sisters because they believe different is worrisome, and should cause us all to pause