DOES WATER BAPTISM FORGIVE SINS?

[Doug]

[Mark 1:4-5 KJV] 4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. 5 And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.

Water baptism was commanded Israel. For Israel at this time, they were baptized to forgive their sins.

Israel was being prepared to inherit the Davidic kingdom in which, they will reign with Christ on earth for a thousand years.

[Exodus 19:5-6 KJV] 5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth [is] mine: 6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These [are] the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Believing, obedient Israel was promised to be priests of God in the kingdom.

[Exodus 29:4 KJV] 4 And Aaron and his sons thou shalt bring unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and shalt wash them with water.

If Israel was to be priests, they had to be cleansed and washed of their sins.

 

[DJT_47]

[Mark 1:4-5 KJV] 4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. 5 And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.

Water baptism was commanded Israel. For Israel at this time, they were baptized to forgive their sins.

Israel was being prepared to inherit the Davidic kingdom in which, they will reign with Christ on earth for a thousand years.

[Exodus 19:5-6 KJV] 5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth [is] mine: 6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These [are] the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Believing, obedient Israel was promised to be priests of God in the kingdom.

[Exodus 29:4 KJV] 4 And Aaron and his sons thou shalt bring unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and shalt wash them with water.

If Israel was to be priests, they had to be cleansed and washed of their sins.

If you're in sin, you're lost, and there's only one scriptural remedy to remove sin and that's by water baptism, immersion in water

 

[Doug]

If you're in sin, you're lost, and there's only one scriptural remedy to remove sin and that's by water baptism, immersion in water

Water baptism was to cleanse believing Israel to enter the earthly kingdom

You specified immersion in water, Where do you find instructions on water baptism?

 

[David Lamb]

If you're in sin, you're lost, and there's only one scriptural remedy to remove sin and that's by water baptism, immersion in water

The Scriptures say:

“and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.” (1Jo 1:7 NKJV)

 

[SavedInHim]

Does water baptism forgive sins? No, sins are forgiven through faith in Christ's saving grace. We become partakers of that grace through baptism.

 

[Taken]

DOES WATER BAPTISM FORGIVE SINS?

No.

Jesus’ (sinless) Blood, IS the Offering of and for The Lord Gods Forgiveness of Sin.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Debp]

Remember the thief on the cross wasn't able to be baptized. But he was still saved through believing on Jesus Christ. Also, some people believe on the Lord just before their death. And some like former Muslims in Muslim countries who can't get baptized, are still saved by faith in Christ.

 

[Chihuahua]

Remember the thief on the cross wasn't able to be baptized. But he was still saved through believing on Jesus Christ. Also, some people believe on the Lord just before their death. And some like former Muslims in Muslim countries who can't get baptized, are still saved by faith in Christ.

Would the thief get baptized if he were to live? He desired baptism. God isn't going to punish someone for lack of opportunity.

 

[Doug]

DOES WATER BAPTISM FORGIVE SINS?

No.

Jesus’ (sinless) Blood, IS the Offering of and for The Lord Gods Forgiveness of Sin.

Glory to God,
Taken

It doesnt for us it did for Israel, but of course it was accepted by God based on Christ's blood

 

[Ronald Nolette]

If you're in sin, you're lost, and there's only one scriptural remedy to remove sin and that's by water baptism, immersion in water

No!

Baptism is for those already saved in the dispensation of grace!

For us salvation is by grace through faith alone, apart from any work!

 

[Grailhunter]

Remember the thief on the cross wasn't able to be baptized. But he was still saved through believing on Jesus Christ. Also, some people believe on the Lord just before their death. And some like former Muslims in Muslim countries who can't get baptized, are still saved by faith in Christ.

The word saved and Heaven are not used in the scriptures concerning the thief on the cross. Now there is speculation what paradise means but no scripture indicates that Yeshua went from the cross to Heaven.

 

[Grailhunter]

Does water baptism forgive sins? No, sins are forgiven through faith in Christ's saving grace. We become partakers of that grace through baptism.

John the Baptist baptized for the remission of sins.
When we are baptized all of our sins are forgiven and even more. We go down in the water a person with sin and we come up sinless and new person....Our old self forgotten. From then on our sins are between us and Yeshua. If we ask forgiveness He forgives us.
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1st John 1:9

4 For we died and were buried with Christ by baptism. And just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glorious power of the Father, now we also may live new lives.
5 Since we have been united with him in his death, we will also be raised to life as he was. 6 We know that our old sinful selves were crucified with Christ so that sin might lose its power in our lives. We are no longer slaves to sin. 7 For when we died with Christ we were set free from the power of sin. 8 And since we died with Christ, we know we will also live with him. 9 We are sure of this because Christ was raised from the dead, and he will never die again. Death no longer has any power over him. 10 When he died, he died once to break the power of sin. But now that he lives, he lives for the glory of God. 11 So you also should consider yourselves to be dead to the power of sin and alive to God through Christ Jesus. Romans 6:4-11

 

[DJT_47]

No!

Baptism is for those already saved in the dispensation of grace!

For us salvation is by grace through faith alone, apart from any work!

Acts 22:16

And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

 

[rvmb]

Acts 22:16

And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

That was before Pauls ministry was in full effect.
Can you list (Rom-Philemon) where Paul teaches that water baptism is a requirement to be saved/justified/sealed ?
1 Cor 1:17 would have included water baptism as a requirement of Salvation had that actually been the case.
Eph 1:13, 1 Cor 15:1-4 teaches what is required of a believer 'today' to be sealed/saved/justified :)

 

[DJT_47]

That was before Pauls ministry was in full effect.
Can you list (Rom-Philemon) where Paul teaches that water baptism is a requirement to be saved/justified/sealed ?
1 Cor 1:17 would have included water baptism as a requirement of Salvation had that actually been the case.
Eph 1:13, 1 Cor 15:1-4 teaches what is required of a believer 'today' to be sealed/saved/justified :)

That makes ZERO sense. It was how Paul got saved, how the Ethiopian eunuch got saved, how the Jews got saved on the day of Pentecost, and how we too get saved

 

[SavedInHim]

It's really hard to separate baptism from salvation. Baptism isn't required for the forgiveness of sins, but it's an important first step for all new believers. It's similar to faith/works; works don't save but any genuinely born-again believer will produce good works. In the New Testament we have many examples. They didn't put it off, they just did it right away.

 

[DJT_47]

It's really hard to separate baptism from salvation. Baptism isn't required for the forgiveness of sins, but it's an important first step for all new believers. It's similar to faith/works; works don't save but any genuinely born-again believer will produce good works. In the New Testament we have many examples. They didn't put it off, they just did it right away.

John's baptism was the baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. Acts 2:38, similarly tied remission of sins to baptism as does Acts 22:16 and 1 Peter 3:21; so, it's not "really hard" to separate baptism from salvation, it's impossible! But, it's not baptism alone, it's a process also requiring
belief, faith, repentance, and confession of belief, with baptism (immersion in water) being the final step, then triggering God's grace and allowing the blood of Christ to cleanse us.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Acts 22:16

And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Ephesians 2:8-10

King James Version

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8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

John 3:16-18

King James Version

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16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

John 3:36

King James Version

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36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Now go back and read Acts 22 and ask- who is the speaker talking to.

 

[DJT_47]

Ephesians 2:8-10​

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King James Version​

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8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

John 3:16-18​

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King James Version​

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16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

John 3:36​

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King James Version​

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36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Now go back and read Acts 22 and ask- who is the speaker talking to.

You can't pit scripture against scripture. If you take one only it will for sure appear to contradict another.

 

[rvmb]

That makes ZERO sense. It was how Paul got saved, how the Ethiopian eunuch got saved, how the Jews got saved on the day of Pentecost, and how we too get saved

Christ through Paul taught Eph 1:13, 1 Cor 15:1-4 is how believers are saved/sealed/justified.
Where's the water baptism requirement in there ?