Don't drink cow's milk ..

[Lambano]

Soy milk? It goes with the soy burger for lunch.

Unh, unh.. Soy milk gives me diarrhea. Bad experience out in Taiwan.

Now, veggie burgers are decent.

 

[Moses_the_younger]

Also I forgot to mention about the concern....for the concern regarding milk. Milk is the best and most effective source for calcium for the body, meaning the body will absorb the calcium from milk better than any other source. Strangely enough nothing else compares to it. Because all other sources provide so little calcium or are not effectively absorbed by the body it becomes a real chore to get the right amount of calcium. Nuts are a good example, some are a good source of calcium, but due to the effectiveness of the body absorbing the calcium from them you would pretty much have to walk around with a hand full of nuts all the time.

The lack of milk in children's diet can have a devastating effect on the formation of bones and teeth. And using enough of the other sources....LOL...getting them to eat it can be near to impossible.

Women or at least some women are susceptible to losing bone density, particularly when they are older. So it can be life long chore to keep up with the calcium intake. And I do not see too many women walking around with a hand full of nuts.

The thing to keep in mind is that it does not matter how much calcium is in the source, it only matters if the body absorbs it and if you eat enough of it.

As a child I drank milk with every meal.

I agree with this 100%. I don't believe people are allergic to milk - I believe they are allergic to the chemicals in the milk, due to the poor conditions of the cow (and it's food), vaccines, and the processing of the milk. God would not have given His people something that was bad for them, and He promised them a land flowing with milk and honey - ergo, I argue milk and honey (in their God-designed form) are very healthy foods.

 

[Grailhunter]

I agree with this 100%. I don't believe people are allergic to milk - I believe they are allergic to the chemicals in the milk, due to the poor conditions of the cow (and it's food), vaccines, and the processing of the milk. God would not have given His people something that was bad for them, and He promised them a land flowing with milk and honey - ergo, I argue milk and honey (in their God-designed form) are very healthy foods.

I agree it is just that some of this stuff seems to be modern issues. Some of it has to do with their stomachs not capable of digesting milk correctly...they are calling it lactose in intolerant....but I never heard of such a thing when I was a kid.

The funny on this has to do with the words all natural and organic. My daughter is a nurse and she likes that stuff and I tell her the words all natural or organic are just words, marketing ploys or advertisement clichés because if they had to guarantee the condition of all aspect of the food including handling it, it would cost too much to buy. She handed me a carton of 2% milk the other day that said organic....I looked at her and laughed and said, What do you think they had to do to it to make 2% and it is homogenized and pasteurized! It is extremely processed and anything but organic! LOL The same people that swear by the organic stuff would consider milk straight from the cow poison....and I have drank it all my life.

 

[marks]

Well Pearl, the modern world many have caused some illnesses and allergies….tick bits that cause Lyme disease and conditions were people cannot eat meat. Young people with emotional problems seem to be an issue. In biblical times they did not give their cows supplements and they did not pasteurize or homogenize their milk.

Do we know as a fact that ancient Israelites actually drank cow's milk?

Much love!

 

[Moses_the_younger]

Do we know as a fact that ancient Israelites actually drank cow's milk?

Much love!

We know for a fact God gave them a land flowing with milk and honey. Whether that milk was from a cow, a goat, or a woman, God would not have given them something bad. Seriously, I believe they drank cows' and goats' milk. Why ever would they not have? (Pretty sure honey only comes from bees, so not as much choice there).

 

[Moses_the_younger]

I agree it is just that some of this stuff seems to be modern issues. Some of it has to do with their stomachs not capable of digesting milk correctly...they are calling it lactose in intolerant....but I never heard of such a thing when I was a kid.

The funny on this has to do with the words all natural and organic. My daughter is a nurse and she likes that stuff and I tell her the words all natural or organic are just words, marketing ploys or advertisement clichés because if they had to guarantee the condition of all aspect of the food including handling it, it would cost too much to buy. She handed me a carton of 2% milk the other day that said organic....I looked at her and laughed and said, What do you think they had to do to it to make 2% and it is homogenized and pasteurized! It is extremely processed and anything but organic! LOL The same people that swear by the organic stuff would consider milk straight from the cow poison....and I have drank it all my life.

Yeah. I've heard of people who believed they were allergic to one food or another, but they go to a different country, and eat the food in its natural form, and they're suddenly not allergic. The allergy is usually to the poison in the food, not the food itself. The disclaimer to that is Genetic Modification of food and people (e.g. with vaccines). When people are injected with vaccines, who knows how that changes their body? Then I can understand them becoming allergic to good food. Similarly, when foolish man arrogantly modifies what God has made - of course people are going to be allergic to that rubbish.

 

[marks]

We know for a fact God gave them a land flowing with milk and honey. Whether that milk was from a cow, a goat, or a woman, God would not have given them something bad. Seriously, I believe they drank cows' and goats' milk. Why ever would they not have? (Pretty sure honey only comes from bees, so not as much choice there).

I found this . . .

MILK - JewishEncyclopedia.com

Complete contents the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia.

www.jewishencyclopedia.com

—Biblical Data:
Palestine is praised in the Bible as a "land flowing with milk and honey" (Ex. iii. 8 et al.), milk representing the common necessities of life, and honey referring to luxuries. In Isa. lv. 1, milk is coupled with wine to denote a similar idea (comp. Ezek. xxv. 4). The Israelites used the milk of goats (Deut. xxxii. 14)and the milk of sheep (Prov. xxvii. 27). Cows' milk is rarely mentioned (comp. Deut. l.c.), probably because of its scarcity owing to the unsuitability of the mountainous country of Palestine for pasturing large cattle. Milk was received in buckets (Job xxi. 24) and kept in skins (Judges iv. 19), and was used as a refreshing drink at meals (Gen. xviii. 8)

Much love!

 

[Nancy]

No one is going to think less of you for not drinking milk.
On the other hand there are people....a lot of them that get their Jollies by being fear mongers and I think some people like being scared. As far as milk I have been drinking "raw" milk my whole life...when I can get it.
But if you are going to be concerned with milk the fear mongers have a whole list for you to consider....I call it THE INCREDIBLE FEAR OF EVERYTHING!

Deadly lettuce….statistics.
Five people have died and 197 have fallen ill across the country as a result of E. coli infections linked to romaine lettuce,

Sun
More than 5,400 people worldwide die of non-melanoma skin cancer every month.

Air
The World Health Organization estimates that 4.6 million people die each year from causes directly attributable to air pollution. ... Direct causes of air pollution related deaths include aggravated asthma, bronchitis, emphysema, lung and heart diseases, and respiratory allergies.

Water
More than 5 million people die each year from diseases caused by unsafe drinking water, lack of sanitation, and insufficient water for hygiene. In fact, over 2 million deaths occur each year from water-related diarrhea alone. In the U.S. Nearly two million people die annually from contaminated drinking water and unsafe sanitation, which can cause parasitic infections and cholera.

Dog attacks
Typically, between 30 and 50 people in the US die from dog bites each year, and the number of deaths from dog attacks appear to be increasing. Around 4.5 million Americans are bitten by dogs every year, resulting in the hospitalization of 6,000 to 13,000 people each year in the United States (2005).

Birds
Whether you are around them or eat them…Hepatitis and many flu strains and killer viruses come from birds. The death tolls vary from season to season but a million deaths are not impossible. Recently a woman that was trying to get rid of a snake was attacked by an eagle that wanted the snake.

Bugs
You might be shocked to learn that insects are collectively responsible for over one million deaths per year worldwide.

Infectious diseases deaths
Nearly 14 million people worldwide die from infectious diseases

Ground dirt
Each year around 700 000 deaths are attributable to antimicrobial, Radon, lead, and poisons and even strange reactions to dirt that causes them to grow horns out of their skin.

Fresh fruits and vegetables
Raw fruits and vegetables contain harmful germs, such as Salmonella, E. coli, and Listeria, that can make you and your family sick. In the United States, nearly half of food borne illnesses are caused by germs on fresh produce….Millions of illness and hundreds of thousands of death. All natural.....Organic in stores are just words....there is no way of knowing what has been done to those fruits and vegetables or how much urine has been applied to them....If you want fresh fruits and vegetable grow your own in a green house.

Vehicle Accidents
In 2018, in the U.S. 40,000 people died in car crashes. An estimated 4.5 million people were seriously injured in car crashes in 2018. Driving or riding in a car is one of the most dangerous things you can do.

Work related deaths
5,250 workers died on the job in 2018.

Home related deaths
Home related deaths and injuries causing as many as 20,000 deaths, 7 million disabling injuries, and 20 million hospital trips in the U.S. each year. You are more likely to die in a fire in your home than if you lived in a forest.

Vacation related deaths
In 2018, just 724 Americans died from unnatural causes while abroad.

Your are not safe from murder…no where and no time
15000 deaths to murder. Shopping parking lot death are hard to calculate. St. Louis is running about four murders a day....People....kids shot in their home.

Weather related deaths
In 2018, 62,339 weather events resulted in 782 deaths and 1,797 injuries. Heat waves, winter weather, and wildfires were responsible for the most deaths during 2018. The largest number of reported injuries resulted from heat waves, winter weather, and high winds including thunderstorm winds.

Fire deaths
United States fire departments responded to an estimated 1,318,500 fires in 2018. These fires resulted in 3,655 civilian fire fatalities; 15,200 civilian fire injuries; and an estimated $25.6 billion in direct property loss (this figure includes $12.4 billion in losses from major California wildfires).

Between 2011 and 2015, U.S. fire departments responded to an average of 358,500 home structure fires per year. These fires caused 12,300 civilian injuries, 2,510 civilian deaths, and $6.7 billion in direct damage. On average, seven people per day die in U.S. home fires.

Food poisoning
There are 128,000 hospitalizations and 3,000 deaths annually.

Choking deaths
The death rate from choking is low at most ages but increases starting around age 74. Choking due to a foreign object resulted in 162,000 deaths

Restaurant food
In the United States,foodborne diseases have been estimated to cause 6 million to 8 million illnesses and up to 9,000 deaths each year. lol 6 to 8.million….make up your mind. And I am sure this included food bought at groceries stores.

Asteroids can destroy all life on earth.

Death directly attributed to bacon…zero. Bacon related deaths….not likely
Death by Bacon? Not Likely.

Canned foods are another topic....a lot of people do not like canned foods but canning has probably saved tens of millions of lives....Uncanned foods can have a host of issues that can be fatal.

"Death directly attributed to bacon…zero. Bacon related deaths….not likely
Death by Bacon? Not Likely."

 

[Grailhunter]

"Death directly attributed to bacon…zero. Bacon related deaths….not likely
Death by Bacon? Not Likely."

LOL is that funny? Some of us are old enough to remember when they thought some things where good and something’s were bad...and then now it is different. Usually when they processes stuff things get worse but for bacon it makes it have health benefits.

Doctors use to subscribe smoking cigarettes.
They used to think eggs were bad.
They used to think pork was bad.
They used to think bread was good.
People use to take salt tablets.
Now they think sugar causes diabetes.

 

[Deborah_]

I no longer drink cow's milk because I learned that the cellular structure of a cow's milk is not the same as the cellular structure in human breast milk from your mother so I no longer drink other animal's milk as for one big reason, I think for the cellular structure difference reasoning, I think it can cause cancer. I think goat's milk is not the same cellular structure as human milk also.

This really isn't logical.
None of the food we eat has exactly the same "cellular structure" as our own bodies, but animal foods will be a lot closer than anything plant-based.
Milk, of all things, has no "cellular structure" anyway. It's a liquid which may have a few odd cells floating around in it. But structure? NO!

But in any case, why would it matter? We have a digestive system that is designed to break down the cellular structure of the foods we eat. That's an essential preliminary to absorbing the nutrition that's inside the cells. By the time your breakfast (cereal with or without milk) has spent an hour inside your gut, there's nothing left of its cellular structure. So don't worry about it.

 

[BarneyFife]

I don't know why it says in the bible about a land with milk and honey.

There was likely no danger in drinking cow's milk 3500 years ago.

A big issue is genetic entropy. Animal products for food are more harmful today in much the same way we no longer intermarry with close relatives. Genetic mutations increase with every generation.

Atrocious practices in animal husbandry are responsible for virtually every widespread infectious disease in humans including the latest and greatest—SARS-CoV-2. Scientists are expecting a flu pandemic any time now.

Oxidized cholesterol and arachidonic acid are causing inflammatory chronic degenerative diseases in humans at an alarmingly increasing rate. The life expectancy for Americans began to steadily decline in 2020 (for the first time in nearly 100 years) with little correlation to COVID.

Alzheimer's and Diabetes (which doesn't even include "pre-diabetes," a disingenuous designation that always leads to the real thing without lifestyle intervention) are on the rise, even while lung cancer rates dropped which was expected to improve the overall state of American health, but couldn't manage to do so in the wake of other increases.

COVID did more damage by extension than directly, spurring a mental and physical health crisis. The CDC still hasn't released mental health data for the COVID era, and the news is expected to be very bad.

Despite the bleak picture all of this paints, we actually know more than ever about how to remedy what ails America even if we do seem far less able to put it into practice.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ can be helpful for this far beyond what most folks dare to believe.

NEWSTART Now is a good place to get started for any who might hear the call from John 10:10 and other Scripture where God expresses His compassion for our physical needs and concern for the care and keeping of the temple of the Holy Spirit. :)

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[TLHKAJ]

Death directly attributed to bacon…zero. Bacon related deaths….not likely
Death by Bacon? Not Likely.

Moral of the story .....eat more bacon!

 

[TLHKAJ]

Unh, unh.. Soy milk gives me diarrhea. Bad experience out in Taiwan.

And a healthy dose of phytoestrogens.....

 

[Jay Ross]

My son in-law, who is into conspiracy theories, and has a tendency to find fault with the respective country's governing political party, sees the "don't drink cows milk" as a misplaced conspiracy theory that needs to be squashed quickly.

Oh well, another straw to break the camel's back.

 

[Moses_the_younger]

I found this . . .

MILK - JewishEncyclopedia.com

Complete contents the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia.

www.jewishencyclopedia.com

—Biblical Data:
Palestine is praised in the Bible as a "land flowing with milk and honey" (Ex. iii. 8 et al.), milk representing the common necessities of life, and honey referring to luxuries. In Isa. lv. 1, milk is coupled with wine to denote a similar idea (comp. Ezek. xxv. 4). The Israelites used the milk of goats (Deut. xxxii. 14)and the milk of sheep (Prov. xxvii. 27). Cows' milk is rarely mentioned (comp. Deut. l.c.), probably because of its scarcity owing to the unsuitability of the mountainous country of Palestine for pasturing large cattle. Milk was received in buckets (Job xxi. 24) and kept in skins (Judges iv. 19), and was used as a refreshing drink at meals (Gen. xviii. 8)

Much love!

My view is that oxen are mentioned everywhere in the bible. Oxen are male cattle - and male cattle have gotta come from somewhere, and the female cattle that produced them will also produce milk. Even some of the sacrifices required oxen, so it's doubtful that the Israelites didn't drink cow's milk (but probably also did drink the other milk sources, as you mentioned from the Jewish Encyclopedia).

 

[Moses_the_younger]

LOL is that funny? Some of us are old enough to remember when they thought some things where good and something’s were bad...and then now it is different. Usually when they processes stuff things get worse but for bacon it makes it have health benefits.

Doctors use to subscribe smoking cigarettes.
They used to think eggs were bad.
They used to think pork was bad.
They used to think bread was good.
People use to take salt tablets.
Now they think sugar causes diabetes.

I dunno. I still think God prohibited bacon for a reason, and I'm not convinced of any health benefits. Modern "science" gets a lot of things wrong.

 

[Nancy]

LOL is that funny? Some of us are old enough to remember when they thought some things where good and something’s were bad...and then now it is different. Usually when they processes stuff things get worse but for bacon it makes it have health benefits.

Doctors use to subscribe smoking cigarettes.
They used to think eggs were bad.
They used to think pork was bad.
They used to think bread was good.
People use to take salt tablets.
Now they think sugar causes diabetes.

If God blessed it for food, good enough for me. Just nothing strangled or with blood left in it...and food offered to idols (not quite sure what that means other than, something like sitting at a table with say, a rock star, or a movie star who gets all kinds of praises and worship from lost humans)

 

[Grailhunter]

I dunno. I still think God prohibited bacon for a reason, and I'm not convinced of any health benefits. Modern "science" gets a lot of things wrong.

I am not Jewish.

At one point God thought it was right for fathers to sell their daughters as sex slaves.
Pork had it own problems without refrigeration. Really meat, in the desert....I am surprised the Hebrews were not vegetarians.
And science can be hit or miss as I pointed out. And fad concepts regarding food and diets are hard to keep up with.
Sugary cereals are bad but pot has health benefits.

 

[Moses_the_younger]

I am not Jewish.

At one point God thought it was right for fathers to sell their daughters as sex slaves.
Pork had it own problems without refrigeration. Really meat, in the desert....I am surprised the Hebrews were not vegetarians.
And science can be hit or miss as I pointed out. And fad concepts regarding food and diets are hard to keep up with.
Sugary cereals are bad but pot has health benefits.

Out of most common meats, I think pork is the one most susceptible to parasites and diseases, which is why I mentioned it.

I think you are misquoting God with the reference to allowing fathers to sell daughters as sex-slaves. Are you referring to a particular passage? I know there were financial penalties for sex outside of marriage, but nowhere does God condone or permit sex-slavery. He required the death penalty for the worst cases of rape, and even for adultery, so hard to envisage the same God allowed sex-slavery.

Definitely agree sugar is a toxin, and cannabis (in correct dosages for the correct reasons) is a better medicine than most of what can be bought at a pharmacy. But I think modern "science" errs more on the side of being wrong, than being right.

 

[BarneyFife]

Out of most common meats, I think pork is the one most susceptible to parasites and diseases, which is why I mentioned it.

I think you are misquoting God with the reference to allowing fathers to sell daughters as sex-slaves. Are you referring to a particular passage? I know there were financial penalties for sex outside of marriage, but nowhere does God condone or permit sex-slavery. He required the death penalty for the worst cases of rape, and even for adultery, so hard to envisage the same God allowed sex-slavery.

Definitely agree sugar is a toxin, and cannabis (in correct dosages for the correct reasons) is a better medicine than most of what can be bought at a pharmacy. But I think modern "science" errs more on the side of being wrong, than being right.

We're going to find out how harmful marijuana actually is after a few more years of legality.

People used to laugh at moralists re: "Reefer Madness," etc., but new links to nihilism and psychosis are being discovered more and more as time passes.

The alarm arising from the increasing frequency of senseless mass shootings (that are now beginning to proliferate worldwide) has caused some to research the conveniently immediate blood test results and pathology reports on the deceased offenders which have shown THC to be the prevailing substance onboard.

An unpopular view, to be sure, but folks generally only want to hear good news about their bad habits and time will tell the true story regardless of what we think.
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