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```2 Peter 1:3 His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. ```

How does on obtain godly life? By faith in Christ! The Divine God has given us everything we need to be saved. He called us, He is Almighty, thus His call will not fail and all will hear His words. Everybody will be reconciled to His goodness and thus worship Him in glory.
 

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I'm sorry, just glancing over your posts, and I have to ask:
Why is the sin thing allowed to play out on earth?
What does John 3:16 mean? It says "whoseover believeth" shall not perish (and so means whosoever does not believe is going to perish)
Did Satan sin and will he be punished?
In the OT much time is taken to explain the Temple service, for the remission of sins looking forward to Christ' sacrifice. Why go through all of that, if it doesn't matter?
Why do you have departed folk staying alive as immortal souls when the Bible says God alone has immortality I Tim 6:16"Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."

Why did Christ have to die, if everyone is saved anyway?

What is the purpose of loving the Lord and doing His will now, if you can be with Him anyway later on?

And my last question why did you put up all of that stuff that your needed to do in order to get an Aiortic NT?
Hi Cassandra my friend! :D

Even though sin is playing out on Earth, it will not play out forever. Since sin = death = suffering. Eventually all suffering must come to an end because all sin will also come to an end, so it's impossible for people to be tortured forever, because sin tortures us.

Psalm 103:8-14 The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in mercy. He will not always strive with us, nor will He keep His anger forever.

Christ died to save everyone. Everyone will become believers in Christ to be saved. That's how they're saved. He's the only way to Heaven after all, the only way someone can be saved is by faith alone in Him. Without Christ, nobody would be saved. Without God, salvation is completely impossible.

John 13:3 The Father "has given all things into Jesus' hands."

It is because Christ died that salvation is possible for everyone, and because God is Almighty, He guarantees that everyone will gain this salvation by faith in Him because it's His desire to completely remove every last trace of sin in the world :D
Habakkuk 2:3 The revelation awaits an appointed time; it speaks of the end and will not prove false. Though it linger, wait for it; it will certainly come and will not delay.
 

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If Hitler, Stalin, Saddam and other nasty people will be in heaven I don't think i'd like to go..:)


The song is

"If Heaven ain't a lot like Dixie, I don't want to go ..." Kidding of course .

I had a serious discussion with my daughter. In an emergency room at the hospital. I was late to her game and ended up being sent to the hospital. She got hit in the face by a line drive in Center Field. "Dad? Can I ask a question? I want the truth" "OK, fire away." "When you lose a ball in the lights, then suddenly see the ball and realize you can't stop it. What goes through your mind?" "Truth .....Awwwwwwww S###!" "That's exactly what I thought." "Michelle" "What?" "Say 52 hail Mary's. Just kidding ......"
 

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Hi Cassandra my friend! :D

Even though sin is playing out on Earth, it will not play out forever. Since sin = death = suffering. Eventually all suffering must come to an end because all sin will also come to an end, so it's impossible for people to be tortured forever, because sin tortures us.

Psalm 103:8-14 The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in mercy. He will not always strive with us, nor will He keep His anger forever.

Christ died to save everyone. Everyone will become believers in Christ to be saved. That's how they're saved. He's the only way to Heaven after all, the only way someone can be saved is by faith alone in Him. Without Christ, nobody would be saved. Without God, salvation is completely impossible.

John 13:3 The Father "has given all things into Jesus' hands."

It is because Christ died that salvation is possible for everyone, and because God is Almighty, He guarantees that everyone will gain this salvation by faith in Him because it's His desire to completely remove every last trace of sin in the world :D
Habakkuk 2:3 The revelation awaits an appointed time; it speaks of the end and will not prove false. Though it linger, wait for it; it will certainly come and will not delay.
Yes, Jesus died so we might be saved. That does not mean everyone will be saved. You have to accept Him.
He will remove every trace of sin from the world in the Earth made new.

I don't believe in an eternal torment. Man is not immortal--only God is. Immortality is a gift,as we see in John 3:16.. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15 And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. The second death, not the second dying

I don't think the Habakkuk verse has anything to do with this.
 

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```Romans 8:11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you. ```

The Holy Spirit will eventually live inside all mortal bodies. He raises us from temporary death, sin, into righteousness, permanent life, by faith alone in Him, Jesus Christ.
 

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so what makes you more worthy then any of them?
Good point. Sin = sin. As long as someone has even a single sin, then they are evil like other evil people. We are all evil. I have done wrongdoings, we all have. The goal of God is to remove all of this sin, therefore, He will convince all people to believe in Christ, who's blood washes away all transgressions.

Psalm 22:27, 29 "ALL the ends of the world shall remember and turn to the Lord, and ALL the families of the nations shall worship before You. ALL those who go down to the dust (death) shall bow before You."
 
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```Romans 8:11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you. ```

The Holy Spirit will eventually live inside all mortal bodies. He raises us from temporary death, sin, into righteousness, permanent life, by faith alone in Him, Jesus Christ.
 

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Good point. Sin = sin. As long as someone has even a single sin, then they are evil like other evil people. We are all evil. I have done wrongdoings, we all have. The goal of God is to remove all of this sin, therefore, He will convince all people to believe in Christ, who's blood washes away all transgressions.

Psalm 22:27, 29 "ALL the ends of the world shall remember and turn to the Lord, and ALL the families of the nations shall worship before You. ALL those who go down to the dust (death) shall bow before You."
Amen. The standard is God. Not other people.
 
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``` Isaiah 41:4 Who has done this and carried it through, calling forth the generations from the beginning? I, the Lord—with the first of them and with the last—I am he. ```

All the generations, from the beginning until the end will be called to salvation. The first person to the last, all will believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, who is the Alpha and the Omega, Rev 1:8, Rev 22:13 to gain life that never ends.
 

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```1 Corinthians 6:19-20 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies. ```

Rev 21:22 tells us there are no temples in New Jerusalem, the city of paradise, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are it’s temples. The Holy Spirit of God will be poured out on all people, thus everyone will have the righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ on them by belief. The Lord will purchase all people with His blood, amen.
 

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```1 John 1:5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. ```

Sin = darkness. Ephesians 5:11. No sin = God = light. Christ = God. John 10:30. Christ shall be all in all. 1 Cor 15:22. Thus, all people will believe in Christ to gain the Holy Spirit of God, His light, which removes all darkness. Thus all sinners made clean and universally reconciled with the Lord.
 

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```1 John 1:5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. ```

Sin = darkness. Ephesians 5:11. No sin = God = light. Christ = God. John 10:30. Christ shall be all in all. 1 Cor 15:22. Thus, all people will believe in Christ to gain the Holy Spirit of God, His light, which removes all darkness. Thus all sinners made clean and universally reconciled with the Lord.
 

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``` Psalm 27:14 Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. ```

How long do we have to wait for the Lord Jesus to save us all? How long must we wait for all people to become believers in the Lord Christ? That’s the point. It’s simply a matter of waiting. Because eventually, everyone all will be made alive, that is guaranteed.
 

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```1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. ```

All us humans have broken the law of God. We all have sin. Therefore, the sting of death will be blotted out for all people, as everyone will become believers in Christ, the only one who obeyed God’s law fully, so sin has no power over us anymore.
 

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```Hebrews 13:14 For here we have no lasting city, but we seek the city that is to come. ```

New Jerusalem is the city of Permanent Life. It's citizens are, all people of the Earth! Everyone clean of death by faith in Christ, Our Lord who will make all things new!
 

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Anyways, you also mentioned this post on r/touhou


https://www.reddit.com/r/touhou/comments/ejkksj




Since I am a Christian, I think it would be interesting to put myself in that situation. A Christian could do a variety of things in Gensokyo, but I have my own specific strategy.





First, I will pray to the Lord for peace. I imagine being thrown into a whole new world may make me anxious, so I would use it as a way to calm me down.





Philippians 4:6 Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.





I will then pray to God for understanding. Specifically, am I the only person who was thrown into Gensokyo? As an older brother, I want to make sure that my younger sister is safe, plus my mom and dad too! For this situation, I will assume that it was only me, 1 Christian. (Though I hope my family will be alright taking care of themselves on their own on Earth).





Gensokyo


Gensokyo on the wiki is described as the Land of Illusions aka the Land of Fantasy. It’s a good way to tell people that Touhou is a fictional (meaning fake) series.





But the scary thing is... since Gensokyo is the Land of Fantasy, and I, a Christian, am in Gensokyo. Would that mean that my family has forgotten about me? Thus, I will assume that, I’m just an unfortunate human who fell in through the Outside World, transported to Gensokyo. Human beings are not fantasy creatures, yet they exist in Gensokyo, like with the Human Village. As such, we can conclude that there are things in Gensokyo that are truthful (Christianity) and false (Hinduism, Shintoism, Buddhism, other false eastern religion ideas).





As such, I will need weapons to battle against those false religious ideas that the people in Gensokyo could unfortunately falsely believe are true. I know some people might try to immediately find an escape, but in my eyes, what if God sent me there for a purpose? I think, the Lord would send me there to evangelize, to spread the truth of Christianity. That the only way to Heaven is Jesus Christ. Certainly there are sinners in Gensokyo’s, people who have disobeyed the Lord’s laws, who need to be made clean of sin through faith in Christ Jesus. And therefore, all creation will gain permanent life and washed of all death.





John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have aionian life.





It’s similar to how I’ve gone to places where Touhou fans congregate and spread the Gospel of Universal Salvation through Jesus Christ to them. Thus, I will need to equip myself with spiritual protection in order to go soulwinning, like the verse below mentions.





Ephesians 6:10-17





The Whole Armor of God





10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. 11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm. 14 Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and, as shoes for your feet, having put on the readiness given by the gospel of peace. 16 In all circumstances take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming darts of the evil one; 17 and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God





I will do this by finding a writing utensil and paper. I will write down Bible verses that I have memorized, copies not just for myself, but to post around Gensokyo. Maybe I can hang it on a tree, or attach it to a pole, place it inside of a book, or hand it to people. I already do those things in real life already when evangelizing in my own city, so the only difference would be a change in scenery.





In terms of the youkai, from the Touhou games, they have many powers. However, none of them are as powerful as the Almighty Lord.





Romans 14:8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.





Whether I’m kept alive or killed immediately upon entry, the Holy Spirit is inside of me, so I will go to Heaven. I have not the spirit of fear, but of love, in me. Eventually, the Holy Ghost will be inside all of people and gain permanent life in paradise.





Joel 2:28 “And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh





Overall though, thank you for the messages! These were fun writing prompts to respond to. I like looking at creative works, and I did take some creative liberties for the “transported to Gensokyo scenario”. The Lord of Hosts blesses you with kindness and love my friend SailorWriter :D
 

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```Luke 12:6-7 Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God. Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows. ```

The Lord allows the sparrows to rest and make nests high up in the trees. How much more will we find rest up in the heavens? All will believe in Christ and gain permanent rest.
 

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SailorWriter asks me the following question





I have something to say, and it is serious, so take it as it is. Yesterday, I was playing Touhou as usual, and having a fun, but mixed time (Cuz you know, magic signs and stuff). Suddenly, I have a temptation of sexual sin after playing the games or eat any Touhou content during evening/night. So, is it okay to take a break away not only from the fanbase, but also from the official games? Thank you.





Thus, I reply with the following





Hello SailorWriter my friend. Thank you for sharing this with me, I appreciate your openness. I pray to the Lord that you are able to resist the temptation of sexual sin.


1 Corinthians 8:8 But food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.





Inside of any online fandom, depending on the person, there can be temptation for sin. Whether it's Touhou, Sonic, Star Wars, etc. It's not something exclusive to Touhou. However, if you feel that Touhou is bringing you to sin, then you can choose to break away from Touhou, if that is your wish.





In terms of consequence of past sin, only the Lord Jesus can say for sure whether it's a consequence from that. It can also serve as an opportunity for the works of God to be displayed through you.





John 9:1-41 As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. And his disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” Jesus answered, “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him. We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming, when no one can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”





Our struggles on Earth is like how a blacksmith puts precious metal into a fire. We are not in that suffering forever, eventually, we will be molded into the shape that God desires us to become. Thus, my friend, no matter how difficult things may seem now, the Lord will keep working through you until He accomplishes His desire, no matter how long it takes. The temptations you face will eventually pass, the pain will come to an end and you will not be tempted with sin endlessly.





Isaiah 48:10 Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tried you in the furnace of affliction.





In terms of breaking away from the fanbase and the official games, it is your personal choice my friend. If you feel like you want to break away from the fandom or the official games, then that is okay. Whatever you choose to do, I will always care for you. Truly, the only thing that matters is the Lord, who is love. I am not willing that someone puts themselves into pain and suffering for the sake of meaningless idols after all. Our primary focus is to give glory to the Lord, in everything we do. I evangelize within the Touhou community, so that's how I give glory. I use Touhou music to motivate me to go soulwinning. But not everyone may feel that same way. Others may feel different feelings about Touhou, which I think you might feel my friend. So, if you feel that being a fan of Touhou does not give glory to the Lord, then it's okay for you to go away from it.





1 Corinthians 6:12 “All things are lawful for me,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful for me,” but I will not be dominated by anything.





1 Peter 4:8 Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins.





I can not give a complete all-encompassing answer for every situation, because each of our own circumstances depends on us. It varies based on how the individual feels. And as much as I want to, I cannot completely read your mind or analyze the condition of your heart. To find out what specific things tempt you to sin. I wish I could, it would make helping more convenient. However, I appreciate this information that you have shown to me thus far. It helps me to more specifically address your concern. I will have this post as my answer to that post.





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Hello, are you okay? You haven't responded.





Oh, talk about interesting timing. As soon as I sent my post, your post showed up. I think you may have sent that post while I was still typing my previous post. I am also currently typing a response to your question about Universalism too, so that will arrive shortly my friend :biggrin





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```Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. ```

And yet there is still sin in the world, sinners who have not been made clean of their wrongdoings. Does God still love us? Yes, He loved us when He died for us, and loves us still, forever and ever. For ages and ages, He will continue to love us and He will wait until all are reconciled with Him by faith in Christ.