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Hi everyone. I hope this is the right place to post about it! I imagine talking about this belief can be controversial, so I have put it under the Unorthodox Doctrine Forum. Please let me know if this is the appropriate place to discuss this or if this is allowed to be discussed. Thank you kindly.

Anyways, let me introduce myself, since this is my first post here. Hi, my name is Harold Samson. On other forums I got by the names Harold Samsong, HSong, or just simply Song.

My beliefs that are relevant to this discussion are as follows:
-> Everyone goes to Heaven.
-> Specifically, everyone will be saved through Jesus Christ.
-> Salvation is through faith alone in Jesus Christ, not of works.
-> Once saved, always saved. You cannot lose your salvation.
and other basic tenants

If you need any more clarification, I will be more than happy to provide.

Now, here's the part where I provide Bible verses to support this position.

1 Timothy 4:10 Jesus Christ, the savior of all men, especially those who believe.​


Some believers may wonder what the point of believing is if God will save everyone. But, the way I see it, believing in Jesus Christ is necessary for salvation, meaning that everyone will eventually believe that God is Jesus Christ. So for us believers, we believe in God in advance, having learned the truth out of grace, and doing good because of our love for Christ!

1 John 3:5: "You know that He [Jesus] appeared to take away sins, and in Him there is no sin."

There is no sin in God, God’s existence cannot allow sin. Therefore, God will go to each person in the world and use Jesus Christ as the cover for those sins, allowing everyone to be saved through Him.

Genesis 12:3 In you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.

Everyone will receive God’s blessing of salvation! All families of the Earth means everyone, as everyone comes from the original family, are original descendants, of Adam and Eve.

Psalm NIV 118:1 Give thanks to the Lord, for He is good; His love endures forever.

God’s love for all the people on Earth will never end, all will be saved.

1 Corinthians 15:55: "O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?"

God will not let death win! In the coming age, there will be no more death, no more suffering, for anyone. Because God will save everyone!

I will leave it at those 5 for now, though I have plenty more than I can reference.

If you agree or disagree with these beliefs, then feel free to let me know why. I'm always curious and interested to know your reasons. I encourage an open discussion on all fronts.

Thank you all for reading this and I hope everyone has a wonderful day! :)
 

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Luke 2:10 But the angel said to them, Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people."

The Gospel means good news. If even one person is not saved, then it is not good news for everyone. The Gospel for the world means that all flesh will receive salvation from Jesus Christ!

John 1:9 "The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world"

The truth will be shown to every man in the world! What is the truth? God is truth! He never lies! This shows that God will be with everyone in Heaven because Christ will save all people!

Psalm 22:27, 29 "ALL the ends of the world shall remember and turn to the Lord, and ALL the families of the nations shall worship before You. ALL those who go down to the dust (death) shall bow before You."

All ends of the world saved.

Psalm 65:2-4 "0 You Who hear prayer, to you ALL flesh will come. Iniquities prevail against me; as for our transgressions, you will provide atonement for them."

All flesh saved.

John 19:30 "It is finished."

Jesus Christ will save everyone. That is the plan that will be finished! Everyone will see salvation!
 

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James 2:13 "Mercy triumphs over judgment"

Some critics use verses from James to falsely show that your good works alone are what saves you. But rather, it is faith alone in Jesus Christ, through grace, that saves us. We do good works because we’ve been saved, because we love God. Like fruits bearing from a tree. So eventually, all people will do good and be turned to righteousness. We have all done bad works, we are all sinners, so therefore we must all be saved together.



Psalm 145:17 "The Lord is righteous in all his ways and faithful in all he does.

Everything that God does is good! If God does not save people, then that is not good. Therefore, God will save all people. He will do good in every way. He will always be faithful to us. He promised us, through Jesus Christ, that all of mankind will see salvation. He will not break that promise, because He is faithful in everything!



Gen. 12:3 "All peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

Right from the beginning, it was God’s plan all along to save everyone. A person can not be blessed if they are not saved. Yet, the Bible clearly says that everyone will blessed. Thus, everyone will receive salvation.
 

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Hi everyone. I hope this is the right place to post about it! I imagine talking about this belief can be controversial, so I have put it under the Unorthodox Doctrine Forum. Please let me know if this is the appropriate place to discuss this or if this is allowed to be discussed. Thank you kindly.

Anyways, let me introduce myself, since this is my first post here. Hi, my name is Harold Samson. On other forums I got by the names Harold Samsong, HSong, or just simply Song.

My beliefs that are relevant to this discussion are as follows:
-> Everyone goes to Heaven.
-> Specifically, everyone will be saved through Jesus Christ.
-> Salvation is through faith alone in Jesus Christ, not of works.
-> Once saved, always saved. You cannot lose your salvation.
and other basic tenants

If you need any more clarification, I will be more than happy to provide.

Now, here's the part where I provide Bible verses to support this position.

1 Timothy 4:10 Jesus Christ, the savior of all men, especially those who believe.​


Some believers may wonder what the point of believing is if God will save everyone. But, the way I see it, believing in Jesus Christ is necessary for salvation, meaning that everyone will eventually believe that God is Jesus Christ. So for us believers, we believe in God in advance, having learned the truth out of grace, and doing good because of our love for Christ!

1 John 3:5: "You know that He [Jesus] appeared to take away sins, and in Him there is no sin."

There is no sin in God, God’s existence cannot allow sin. Therefore, God will go to each person in the world and use Jesus Christ as the cover for those sins, allowing everyone to be saved through Him.

Genesis 12:3 In you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.

Everyone will receive God’s blessing of salvation! All families of the Earth means everyone, as everyone comes from the original family, are original descendants, of Adam and Eve.

Psalm NIV 118:1 Give thanks to the Lord, for He is good; His love endures forever.

God’s love for all the people on Earth will never end, all will be saved.

1 Corinthians 15:55: "O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?"

God will not let death win! In the coming age, there will be no more death, no more suffering, for anyone. Because God will save everyone!

I will leave it at those 5 for now, though I have plenty more than I can reference.

If you agree or disagree with these beliefs, then feel free to let me know why. I'm always curious and interested to know your reasons. I encourage an open discussion on all fronts.

Thank you all for reading this and I hope everyone has a wonderful day! :)
If you were God, would you allow everyone into heaven?

What about the devil and every demon that has ever caused indescribable misery and torment upon mankind?

How are their sins any different than ours? They were Angels before they fell into darkness and disgrace.

No mere man has ever been as righteous as an Angel.
 

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Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,

An extremely clear and straightfoward message. We are all saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ alone. As simple and direct to the point as it gets!



Ephesians 1:10 As a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

Unite is a keyword here. Everyone will be together in Heaven, as He planned out since the beginning because he loves us. All people are sinners, but out of grace, He will bring us all together into salvation.



Psalm 30:5 For his anger is but for a moment, and his favor is for a lifetime. Weeping may tarry for the night, but joy comes with the morning.

This is extremely important. God’s anger only lasts for a single fleeting moment! When God is correcting our sins, that will only last a temporary amount of time. Afterwards, we will be safe with God for all of life. While on Earth, all of humanity may be suffering, eventually, this pain will end and everyone will be happy!
 

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1 Corinthians 15:22 "In Christ shall all be made alive"

No longer will there be any death. No more suffering, for anyone. Everyone will have happiness in Heaven be believing in Christ! God is not a liar, therefore, this will come true!




Luke 19:10: "For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost."

Everyone in the world is lost, for we have all sinned against God. But God specifically save Jesus Christ to save all of us who are lost, which is the whole world.




Luke 15:4: "What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he has lost one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the open country, and go after the one that is lost, until he finds it?"

This is absolute assurance that God will save everyone. Even if one person is viewed by the world as extremely evil, God does not discriminate. We have all sinned and therefore God sees us all as sinners. Thus, God will save everyone.
 

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Hello everyone. Russia has attacked Poland. Russia launched a missile into a village inside Poland territory, killing 2 people. US officials have confirmed this. The Poland government is now holding an emergency meeting. Poland is a NATO country. This invokes Article 5, a clause that states NATO members must defend each other. I believe Russia must be stopped.



Psalm 11:5 ESV The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence.



Sources:

2 killed as Russian missiles cross into Poland

Russian missiles crossed into Poland, killing 2, U.S. official reportedly has told AP

Russian missile strike kills two in NATO member Poland

Subscribe to read | Financial Times (Paywall)

The Pentagon says the US would 'defend every inch of NATO territory' after reports that Russian missiles killed 2 people in Poland

And many other news articles reporting this urgent news.



I believe this is World War 3. I’m from Canada, another NATO member. I have been following the Ukraine and Russia conflict since it first started.



Isaiah 41:10 ESV Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.



2 Timothy 1:7 For God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.




I mention this here because if I’m killed, I can no longer post Daily Universalist Verses on this thread. However, as long as this site remains up and I am physically and mentally able, I promise you all that I will continue to post Bible Verses that prove Universal Salvation through Jesus Christ until I die. I say this in advance so you know what happens if my posts suddenly stop appearing or disappear.



Proverbs 22:3 The prudent sees danger and hides himself, but the simple go on and suffer for it.



On a personal note, not only do I pray for good to all people, but I also pray for my family. I care for my family members deeply. Even though none of them believe in Universal Salvation, I cry, thinking of the pain in the future we may experience from this conflict. Even though there are some in my family that believe in ECT, or don’t believe in faith alone on Jesus Christ, I pray for their safety. I am the only one that I have physically met that believes in Universal Salvation, but still, I pray to Christ Jesus to bless the whole world. I have talked to at least one of them in-person face-to-face already about this news, but I plan to speak to more of them so we are all prepared.



1 John 4:19 We love because he first loved us.



Regardless of your beliefs, I hope we can all recognize the absolute evilness of the Russian Federation with their war crimes. I stand with Ukraine, I stand with Poland and I will stand with any country that fights back against the terrorist state that is Russia.



Deuteronomy 27:25 “Cursed is anyone who accepts a bribe to kill an innocent person.” Then all the people shall say, “Amen!”



Exodus 23:7 Keep far from a false charge, and do not kill the innocent and righteous, for I will not acquit the wicked.



I trust in the Lord to save us all from evil. God has promised to save everyone; therefore, His will shall be carried out.



Psalm 112:7 ESV He is not afraid of bad news; his heart is firm, trusting in the Lord.



Revelation 21:4 - He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.


All of the tears that drop from our eyes in response to all of the pain and suffering from the world will be wiped away by the Lord our God. He will wipe everyone’s tears away.

Nobody will experience death. Everyone will live forever in Heaven through faith alone in Jesus Christ.

Nobody will cry after salvation, everyone will be saved by our Lord and Saviour Christ Jesus.

Nobody will experience pain, the whole world will be blessed through the Gospel, the good news of Universal Salvation for all people.



Romans 8:31 ESV What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?
 

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Hi Harold,
I can find no confirmation at all that this was a missile strike from Russia, at least on purpose. There is also some that took pictures and videos of the site that, they believed they were Ukraine air defense system missiles that could have been used to defending against Russian missiles. I am definitely all for Ukraine but, this has escalated the war allot now, Russia is being indignant and calling this a "provocation".
Just sayin :)
 
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John 3:17: "God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world be saved through Him."

God would not send Jesus to save the world if He knew beforethat that the world could not be saved. God planned out from the beginning to save everyone and He will accomplish it through His Son, Jesus Christ.



John 6:33: "For the bread of God is He who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world."

The world means everyone. While at the end of our limited lifespans we die, God will save all of us and give all of us life.



John 12:32 "And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself."

Everyone will be drawn to God. All people from every nation around the world will witness Jesus Christ’s free gift of salvation for us all!
 

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Hi everyone. I hope this is the right place to post about it! I imagine talking about this belief can be controversial, so I have put it under the Unorthodox Doctrine Forum. Please let me know if this is the appropriate place to discuss this or if this is allowed to be discussed. Thank you kindly.

Anyways, let me introduce myself, since this is my first post here. Hi, my name is Harold Samson. On other forums I got by the names Harold Samsong, HSong, or just simply Song.

My beliefs that are relevant to this discussion are as follows:
-> Everyone goes to Heaven.
-> Specifically, everyone will be saved through Jesus Christ.
-> Salvation is through faith alone in Jesus Christ, not of works.
-> Once saved, always saved. You cannot lose your salvation.
and other basic tenants

If you need any more clarification, I will be more than happy to provide.

Now, here's the part where I provide Bible verses to support this position.

1 Timothy 4:10 Jesus Christ, the savior of all men, especially those who believe.​


Some believers may wonder what the point of believing is if God will save everyone. But, the way I see it, believing in Jesus Christ is necessary for salvation, meaning that everyone will eventually believe that God is Jesus Christ. So for us believers, we believe in God in advance, having learned the truth out of grace, and doing good because of our love for Christ!

1 John 3:5: "You know that He [Jesus] appeared to take away sins, and in Him there is no sin."

There is no sin in God, God’s existence cannot allow sin. Therefore, God will go to each person in the world and use Jesus Christ as the cover for those sins, allowing everyone to be saved through Him.

Genesis 12:3 In you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.

Everyone will receive God’s blessing of salvation! All families of the Earth means everyone, as everyone comes from the original family, are original descendants, of Adam and Eve.

Psalm NIV 118:1 Give thanks to the Lord, for He is good; His love endures forever.

God’s love for all the people on Earth will never end, all will be saved.

1 Corinthians 15:55: "O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?"

God will not let death win! In the coming age, there will be no more death, no more suffering, for anyone. Because God will save everyone!

I will leave it at those 5 for now, though I have plenty more than I can reference.

If you agree or disagree with these beliefs, then feel free to let me know why. I'm always curious and interested to know your reasons. I encourage an open discussion on all fronts.

Thank you all for reading this and I hope everyone has a wonderful day! :)
Harold,

Even if you can quote half the Bible/scriptures to support what you believe, you can't quote them all...because there are just as many that show you wrong.

Which is to say: Things don't work that way. You don't get to pick out what you like and disregard what you don't. And let me point out, that "by that measure it will be measured back to you"...which would be the end of you.

So, save yourself (and us) some time and grief ("weeping and gnashing of teeth") and take up your argument with God, where you would do well to confess that you cannot reconcile all that is written without abandoning your half-truth beliefs. Why should you spread doubt among the children of God as Satan did in the garden, only to be counted with him?
 

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I think many more will be saved than what people think. But hell is for some people.
 
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Revelation 1:18: "I [Jesus] have the keys of Death and Hades."

While Revelations is often used for end-times speculation, it still contains verses that shows that everyone will be saved. Nobody can be seperated from Jesus when Jesus has the keys to death! Every man will see salvation!



Revelation 5:13: "And I [John] heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, `To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!"'

This is every person on the Earht worshipping God! They are worshipping Him because He is good. He has saved everyone. Even though everyone in the world is a sinner, He loves us so much that He has chosen to save us because He is good! Nobody can stop God’s plan, God’s promise, for all our salvation.
 

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God's offer of salvation is offered to everyone, but its only applied as "the gift of salvation" if you BELIEVE in Jesus..

"the work of God is that you BELIEVE, in/on Jesus, whom God sent".

Jesus said...>"all that believe in me, i give unto you eternal life, and you shall never perish".

Also..

There are NO Born again in hell, and there are no Christ rejectors, (never born again), in Heaven.
 

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Hi everyone. I hope this is the right place to post about it! I imagine talking about this belief can be controversial, so I have put it under the Unorthodox Doctrine Forum. Please let me know if this is the appropriate place to discuss this or if this is allowed to be discussed. Thank you kindly.

Anyways, let me introduce myself, since this is my first post here. Hi, my name is Harold Samson. On other forums I got by the names Harold Samsong, HSong, or just simply Song.

My beliefs that are relevant to this discussion are as follows:
-> Everyone goes to Heaven.
-> Specifically, everyone will be saved through Jesus Christ.
-> Salvation is through faith alone in Jesus Christ, not of works.
-> Once saved, always saved. You cannot lose your salvation.
and other basic tenants

If you need any more clarification, I will be more than happy to provide.

Now, here's the part where I provide Bible verses to support this position.

1 Timothy 4:10 Jesus Christ, the savior of all men, especially those who believe.​


Some believers may wonder what the point of believing is if God will save everyone. But, the way I see it, believing in Jesus Christ is necessary for salvation, meaning that everyone will eventually believe that God is Jesus Christ. So for us believers, we believe in God in advance, having learned the truth out of grace, and doing good because of our love for Christ!

1 John 3:5: "You know that He [Jesus] appeared to take away sins, and in Him there is no sin."

There is no sin in God, God’s existence cannot allow sin. Therefore, God will go to each person in the world and use Jesus Christ as the cover for those sins, allowing everyone to be saved through Him.

Genesis 12:3 In you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.

Everyone will receive God’s blessing of salvation! All families of the Earth means everyone, as everyone comes from the original family, are original descendants, of Adam and Eve.

Psalm NIV 118:1 Give thanks to the Lord, for He is good; His love endures forever.

God’s love for all the people on Earth will never end, all will be saved.

1 Corinthians 15:55: "O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?"

God will not let death win! In the coming age, there will be no more death, no more suffering, for anyone. Because God will save everyone!

I will leave it at those 5 for now, though I have plenty more than I can reference.

If you agree or disagree with these beliefs, then feel free to let me know why. I'm always curious and interested to know your reasons. I encourage an open discussion on all fronts.

Thank you all for reading this and I hope everyone has a wonderful day! :)
You have made a simple mistake that too many make. You base a doctrine on one verse of scripture.
 
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Hi everyone. I hope this is the right place to post about it! I imagine talking about this belief can be controversial, so I have put it under the Unorthodox Doctrine Forum. Please let me know if this is the appropriate place to discuss this or if this is allowed to be discussed. Thank you kindly.

Anyways, let me introduce myself, since this is my first post here. Hi, my name is Harold Samson. On other forums I got by the names Harold Samsong, HSong, or just simply Song.

My beliefs that are relevant to this discussion are as follows:
-> Everyone goes to Heaven.
-> Specifically, everyone will be saved through Jesus Christ.
-> Salvation is through faith alone in Jesus Christ, not of works.
-> Once saved, always saved. You cannot lose your salvation.
and other basic tenants

If you need any more clarification, I will be more than happy to provide.

Now, here's the part where I provide Bible verses to support this position.

1 Timothy 4:10 Jesus Christ, the savior of all men, especially those who believe.​


Some believers may wonder what the point of believing is if God will save everyone. But, the way I see it, believing in Jesus Christ is necessary for salvation, meaning that everyone will eventually believe that God is Jesus Christ. So for us believers, we believe in God in advance, having learned the truth out of grace, and doing good because of our love for Christ!

1 John 3:5: "You know that He [Jesus] appeared to take away sins, and in Him there is no sin."

There is no sin in God, God’s existence cannot allow sin. Therefore, God will go to each person in the world and use Jesus Christ as the cover for those sins, allowing everyone to be saved through Him.

Genesis 12:3 In you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.

Everyone will receive God’s blessing of salvation! All families of the Earth means everyone, as everyone comes from the original family, are original descendants, of Adam and Eve.

Psalm NIV 118:1 Give thanks to the Lord, for He is good; His love endures forever.

God’s love for all the people on Earth will never end, all will be saved.

1 Corinthians 15:55: "O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?"

God will not let death win! In the coming age, there will be no more death, no more suffering, for anyone. Because God will save everyone!

I will leave it at those 5 for now, though I have plenty more than I can reference.

If you agree or disagree with these beliefs, then feel free to let me know why. I'm always curious and interested to know your reasons. I encourage an open discussion on all fronts.

Thank you all for reading this and I hope everyone has a wonderful day! :)
Thank you. I hope you also have a good day.

I've always loved 1 Timothy 4:10.Especially when we're told it was written by Paul,a Pharisee, who I don't think would have believed that before when he was in the fold.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 is another curious verse. I mentioned this elsewhere here.
And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

There's no differentiation in that chapter. It doesn't say the believing soul. It says the soul returns to God who gave it after the silver cord is broken or loosed.

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12:6 Remember your Creator before the silver cord is loosed, or the golden bowl is broken, or the pitcher shattered at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the well.

And even the conclusion of chapter 12 is in keeping with those earlier testaments.

12 And further, my son, be admonished by these. Of making many books there is no end, and much study is wearisome to the flesh.
13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:
Fear God and keep His commandments,
For this is man’s all.
14 For God will bring every work into judgment,
Including every secret thing,
Whether good or evil.
 

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Ephesians 1:9-10: God's "purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time,"


This is God’s plan to save everyone and give everyone salvation. Nobody can stop that plan from being fufilled. Who can be an obstacle to God and His infinite power? Nobody! Therefore, everyone will obtain salvation through Jesus Christ.




Acts 3:21 NLT: “[Jesus] must remain in heaven until the time for the final restoration of ALL things, as God promised long ago through the prophets."


There’s nothing else that this can refer to beside the complete restoration of every living being to God. All things in the world will be restored to their original purpose, like it was in the Garden of Eden, when we were all happy.
 

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Romans 5:18: "Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men."

You can not get any more exact than that. Everyone condemned by the original sin of Adam will be saved through the righteousness of Christ’s death.



Romans 11:32: "For God has consigned all to disobedience, that He may have mercy on all."

Even though we have all sinned against God, He will still have mercy on all of us because of His Love for all creation. All people will be saved.
 

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1 Corinthians 15:22: "As in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive."

Despite all of us being cursed with the original sin of Adam, Christ has came to the world to make everyone alive through Him.

We will all be saved from the wages of sin, death, and be alive with Christ for all time!



1 Corinthians 15:55: "O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?"

God will not let death win! In the coming age, there will be no more death, no more suffering, for anyone.

Because God will save everyone!