Fake Christians

[Marvelloustime]

Then would anyone please tell me why on earth
i see full grown women married to women and men married to men
SITTING IN THE CHURCHES and aint a bit of it being corrected , rather its being embraced .
As with any other sin . Why come i aint seeing correction .
And why come when the few who do try and correct the sin and error within the church ,
THEY the ones cast out as haters , as they even toss the words OF GOD out too . seeing the very Words
of GOD as hate speech . OH do we ever have some serious wicked things going on withn the realm
of christendom , but because they all call it love and loving , many sure seem to buy into it .
Not this sheep , nor any other sheep . ITS KEY RECTION , or CORRETION TIME in the house .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

which is always what they do . What very wee little scrips they do know
they take out and twist to support something commonly known as a lie .
Seeing they cannot resist the words of truth
they play the only card they know , victim , oh thats hate . that is judging
But they darn sure cannot bring scrips and what little they do , THEY TWIST
and do so , as peter wrote , unto their own destruction .
They cannot overcome the TRUTH
they cannot overcome the words of truth
SO , roll over play victim and make it all about feelings and emotions
and The one bringing the truth seem as the oppressor and hater .
That is HOW they do and what they do . And that is Exactly HOW evil takes over socities and places .
SILENCE the lips of truth by making the speaker out to be the hater and the oppresser .
Dont work on the sheep though . cause frankly i aint in it to be popular and well loved by the world .
TO GOD , TO CHRIST BE THE GLORY and all honor , no matter the cost to me
and may souls hear and repent . That is all that matters to me .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

Then would anyone please tell me why on earth
i see full grown women married to women and men married to men
SITTING IN THE CHURCHES and aint a bit of it being corrected , rather its being embraced .
As with any other sin . Why come i aint seeing correction .
And why come when the few who do try and correct the sin and error within the church ,
THEY the ones cast out as haters , as they even toss the words OF GOD out too . seeing the very Words
of GOD as hate speech . OH do we ever have some serious wicked things going on withn the realm
of christendom , but because they all call it love and loving , many sure seem to buy into it .
Not this sheep , nor any other sheep . ITS KEY RECTION , or CORRETION TIME in the house .

@amigo de christo

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I believe we Christians have to treat everybody with respect and kindness just as Jesus would do. Same sex couples or anybody else. Telling the truth in love is very often an excuse for finger pointing.

Judgment - Even Jesus said he did not come to judge but to save.

Lead them to christ first. then God will work on them.

witnessed this first hand

 

[Behold]

Please stop posting these grotesque pictures. Thanks.

Those photos help deceived people who dont understand the vileness of Homosexuality, who want to come to "christian forums" and defend Gay behavior.
Sometimes you have have a Picture, to understand the reality....to fully grasp the situation.
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[Eternally Grateful]

Those photos help deceived people who dont understand the vileness of Homosexuality, who want to come to "christian forums" and defend Gay behavior.
Sometimes you have have a Picture, to understand the reality....to fully grasp the situation.
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those people need God not judged

You will never win any of them over by judging them..

 

[Muna]

Hello Truly,

At times, short and sweet comments can feel more like empty gestures than meaningful conversation.

You typically want me to go away, and you have ignored all my posts thus far that were at length. So I posted a short sweet word from the LORD about how He is good and upright and will teach sinners (all of which we are) in the way (who is Jesus Christ) and who ate with sinners (which is exactly what baffled the Pharisees) and you regard this as an empty gesture?

This one?

Psalm 25:8 Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.

I understand that people often quote Scripture or present themselves as spiritually flawless—but the truth is, we all fall short. That’s the very point Jesus was making when He said:

“Healthy people don’t need a doctor—sick people do. I have come to call not those who think they are righteous, but those who know they are sinners.”

Which is in agreement with the single verse I posted (which you call an empty gesture).

You can't even see an agreement in the scriptures, whether at length or in a single verse.

So lets try it this way (very simply)

Mark 2:16 And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?

Mark 2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Luke 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Luke 15:1 Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him.

Psalm 25:8 Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.

Luke 15:7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

Notice how that fits in, agreeing with the scriptures? And not an empty gesture by me (or the LORD)

Jesus spoke these words to the Pharisees, who looked down on others with hardened hearts. They had become so devoted to the Law that they had lost sight of Yahavah Himself. When they saw Jesus dining with those deemed “sinners,” they responded with contempt. But Yeshua’s response was powerful: He came for those who recognized their need—not for those who considered themselves spiritually complete by their own standards.

And this response forth coming is because I posted this single verse

Psalm 25:8 Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.

As if somehow it contradicts that the LORD is good and upright? Or somehow contradicts that the Father taught sinners through Jesus Christ?

Your reasoning is distorted

The ones dining with Yeshua knew they were broken. They knew they couldn’t keep the commandments perfectly, but they loved Yahavah and others sincerely. That humble recognition is exactly what opens the heart to redemption.

Through the law come the knowledge of sin and Jesus said,

Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

John 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

You changed his words in one of your posts and got rid of the word sin in it, is this the problem?

Some may speak of being completely free from sin,

You mean Jesus?

Or Paul, who is in agreement with Jesus?

Romans 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

And here?

Romans 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

Or here?

Romans 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

Who exactly are some of these people who are speaking of being set from from sin?

yet I believe that as long as we live in the flesh, the struggle remains. I have my own battles; so do you. And I’m not ashamed to say I’m a sinner in need of a Savior. That isn’t defeat—it’s honest self-awareness before a holy God.

We might live in the flesh (Physically existing) but we are not called to walk after the flesh.

And we are not really considered as being in the flesh according to Paul here

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Before this, Paul speaks of the weakness of the flesh in various places, and here he says

Romans 6:19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.

But a few verses earlier Paul had already told us that sin shall not have dominion over us

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Sometimes, when people see themselves as already righteous—whether through strict adherence to the Law or by not recognizing their need for Jesus—they can unintentionally miss the deeper message. In the process, they may overlook grace, the divine gift that brings true transformation through the Spirit.

Paul even said,

Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Who is saying any different?

And we shouldnt overlook this aspect of grace either

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Titus 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world

 

[Behold]

those people need God not judged

You will never win any of them over by judging them..

Posting a photo of Homosexuals who have adopted Children, is not "judging" them.....
You're not thinking.
See...
They are already judged.
So, what im doing, is taking the "romance" out of Gay sex life, as i meet Christians who are.....>>"well, they are born this way, and they have a right to......".
And yes they do have a right to sin, and live in perversion... as this is their free will in action...........and we, the Born again, have a God given ministry to warn and reveal and preach.

If you dont like it, find another place to play then on a "christian forum", @Eternally Grateful .

 

[amigo de christo]

those people need God not judged

You will never win any of them over by judging them..

sadly this church age does not even know what that means at all anymore .
They see correction as judgmental .
ALL sin must be corrected and exposed amongst any who even calls themselves christain .
I would like to give us a real easy lovework assignment .
I want us all to examine HOW peter , how paul and others Witnessed in acts .
I want us to also see what they said concerning sin and error in their own letters to the churches .
But i must warn and remind us
Many darn sure would have seen them as and even called them haters , judgers and etc .
But lets go ahead and all do this . Lets simply
go into the book of acts and see HOW the witnessed . SEE WHO the focus was
and see how they responsed .
Notice even how paul responded WHEN HE Saw all that idolatry going on in that city .
HE DID BEGIN to CORRECT EVEN THAT . SIN MUST be exposed and corrected .
JESUS MUST be absolutey preached to all
I suggest we do this simply lovehomework assignemnt i suggested .
Be prepared to see TRUE MEN , Grave ones at work
and not the effimeniate women like men get got to today
WHO do more to entertain , who behave as women and even as children
This generation has zero idea how a true man of GOD even looks like . They too busy
on the big ALL OUT WE OWE THE WORLD an apology tour .
NO , actually THIS CHURCH AGE DOES OWE AN APOLOGY .
BUT IT aint to the unrepentant sinners , ITS TO GOD ALL MIGHTY AND HIS CHRIST . what a shame upon this church age .

 

[Muna]

Hello @Truly,

It's ultimately because the tension, is why I rather disregard.

MattewG, I believe the tension is on your part.

For example, You will ignore all my replies which utilize scripture at length, but as soon as I post a single verse you utilize that as an opportunity for your backhanded comment.

Saying,

"At times, short and sweet comments can feel more like empty gestures than meaningful conversation"

Which followed after all the former responses which went ignored by you, purposefully overposting my posts with the same scripture (again and again) as if we missed Jesus words, or your post, to which I had actually responded but was met with silence on your part. Only to chime in with your particular response over a single verse (which was never posted to set at nought your post) as you might be seeking to do, but rather, mine actually agreed with it.

Spamming the same verse no one is opposing, certainly not me, I do not see how that is productive.

 

[amigo de christo]

You typically want me to go away, and you have ignored all my posts thus far that were at length. So I posted a short sweet word from the LORD about how He is good and upright and will teach sinners (all of which we are) in the way (who is Jesus Christ) and who ate with sinners (which is exactly what baffled the Pharisees) and you regard this as an empty gesture?

This one?

Psalm 25:8 Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.


Which is in agreement with the single verse I posted (which you call an empty gesture).

You can't even see an agreement in the scriptures, whether at length or in a single verse.

So lets try it this way (very simply)

Mark 2:16 And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?

Mark 2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Luke 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Luke 15:1 Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him.

Psalm 25:8 Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.

Luke 15:7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

Notice how that fits in, agreeing with the scriptures? And not an empty gesture by me (or the LORD)


And this response forth coming is because I posted this single verse

Psalm 25:8 Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.

As if somehow it contradicts that the LORD is good and upright? Or somehow contradicts that the Father taught sinners through Jesus Christ?

Your reasoning is distorted


Through the law come the knowledge of sin and Jesus said,

Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

John 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

You changed his words in one of your posts and got rid of the word sin in it, is this the problem?



You mean Jesus?

Or Paul, who is in agreement with Jesus?

Romans 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

And here?

Romans 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

Or here?

Romans 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

Who exactly are some of these people who are speaking of being set from from sin?



We might live in the flesh (Physically existing) but we are not called to walk after the flesh.

And we are not really considered as being in the flesh according to Paul here

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Before this, Paul speaks of the weakness of the flesh in various places, and here he says

Romans 6:19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.

But a few verses earlier Paul had already told us that sin shall not have dominion over us

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.



Paul even said,

Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Who is saying any different?

And we shouldnt overlook this aspect of grace either

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Titus 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world

Reader take heed .
What you are witnessing is far worse inside a lot of churches than it has yet been on this web site .
But i must warn us all
THIS GENERATION is ready for a solution . A solution that will forever silence
anyone who speaks the truth that does so expose their sins and puts such fear into their hearts
Fear leads to great hatred and hate to murder .
we are witnessing the affects of the effect of loving sin and rejecting GOD . to those who love a fable
that mind can have no peace , no rest , WHEN ANY TRUTH exposes it .
THIS TOO WILL get worse . IT WILL LEAD to the all out betrayal of the sheep .
Minds are going all out reprobate in this age .
And those who love the lie and their fable , grow very weary of those who even dare to remind .
SOON it wont just be the accusation card , the victim card etc
SOON it wont just be words , it wont just be digital bannings
IT will be laws and they wont mind one bit to have our voices , our bodies REMOVED from society .
THIS is gonna implode . We are nearing the END of the ecumincal phase
THE CRUSADE PHASE WILL FOLLOW . and they will believe they do the love gods will
when we are removed from society , our voices silenced , reeducation so called fun camps .
But fear not what is or what is coming . STAND FIRM for CHRIST , for truth , continue to exhort
and corrrect any and all error and sins . Some will hear , but most will reject . TO the trenches my friend .
The hour grows late .

 

[Muna]

I hope this settles the tension overall, @Truly.

It's just the way people come off that makes me not trust them, and skeptical of their actual intentions cause I have trust issues and that is a weakness of mine.

Hey, maybe I could feel the same way, so why not check your own self and how you yourself come off.

I would never ask you to put your trust in me.

Thats stupid to trust in anyone

 

[amigo de christo]

MattewG, I believe the tension is on your part.

For example, You will ignore all my replies which utilize scripture at length, but as soon as I post a single verse you utilize that as an opportunity for your backhanded comment.

Saying,

"At times, short and sweet comments can feel more like empty gestures than meaningful conversation"

Which followed after all the former responses which went ignored by you, purposefully overposting my posts with the same scripture (again and again) as if we missed Jesus words, or your post, to which I had actually responded but was met with silence on your part. Only to chime in with your particular response over a single verse (which was never posted to set at nought your post) as you might be seeking to do, but rather, mine actually agreed with it.

Spamming the same verse no one is opposing, certainly not me, I do not see how that is productive.

Its like a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs my friend .
WHEN TRUTH enters the door
all the long tailed cats who loved the error
GET very spooked , very uneasy . AND STILL its their voices that society and the churches will listen too .
THIS WILL BE HOW the silence TRUTH .
Remember they beleive that if any thing can cause harm to one
it ought not be allowed .
THEY WILL SILENCE THE TRUTH . saying things like this causes me mental harm .
ITS HOW THEY GONNA DO THIS . SOON the persecutions against us will increase .
THIS IS that meal ticket for them .
IN part they already began it a while back .
REMEMBER , they began saying things
like HEY when churches remind gays or transgenders that it is a sin
ITS caused some to kill themselves and etc .
THEY KNOW WHAT they are doing . ITS MEANT TO silence any TRUTH that exposes sins .
AND they gonna use it on the gospel too .
WHY do you think they pumped the churches so full of this phrase
TRIGGER POINTS .
IF it triggers one , causes fear etc . THEY BEEN at work FOR A LONG TIME my friend .
IT was meant to do ONE THING .
SILENCE THE TRUTH so the leaven COULD TAKE IT ALL OVER and now
its becoming and will become , WE JUST GOT TO RID this earth of those who wont conform
WHO preach hate speech , who cause fear and divisions . ITS COMING . ITS COMING .

 

[amigo de christo]

Hey, maybe I could feel the same way, so why not check your own self and how you yourself come off.

I would never ask you to put your trust in me.

Thats stupid to trust in anyone

Spot on right . TRUST in no man . Test all men .
TRUST IN GOD , IN CHRIST .

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Posting a photo of Homosexuals who have adopted Children, is not "judging" them.....
You're not thinking.
See...
They are already judged.
So, what im doing, is taking the "romance" out of Gay sex life, as i meet Christians who are.....>>"well, they are born this way, and they have a right to......".
And yes they do have a right to sin, and live in perversion... as this is their free will in action...........and we, the Born again, have a God given ministry to warn and reveal and preach.

If you dont like it, find another place to play then on a "christian forum", @Eternally Grateful .

lol again

lead them to Christ, do not judge them

yes you did judge them,, and you wonder why people hate Christianity, we are the most hypocritical religion on earth.. pumping our chests about how great we are when we are just as guilty as they are

I have quite a few former gay men in my church, one is a leader.. He repented AFTER he came to christ.. Because people loved him, they did not judge him,, He is now married with 4 beautiful kids..

thank God you did not go to try to witness to him, he would be lost forever.

 

[Muna]

Yeah it just the way people come off. That is all, sometimes I find people annoying truly but my flesh is just what it is. I try to make the choice to abide in christ, and not let my flesh get to me.

It's a struggle.

I'm sure Jesus understands

Heb 12:3 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

sadly this church age does not even know what that means at all anymore .
They see correction as judgmental .
ALL sin must be corrected and exposed amongst any who even calls themselves christain .
I would like to give us a real easy lovework assignment .
I want us all to examine HOW peter , how paul and others Witnessed in acts .
I want us to also see what they said concerning sin and error in their own letters to the churches .
But i must warn and remind us
Many darn sure would have seen them as and even called them haters , judgers and etc .
But lets go ahead and all do this . Lets simply
go into the book of acts and see HOW the witnessed . SEE WHO the focus was
and see how they responsed .
Notice even how paul responded WHEN HE Saw all that idolatry going on in that city .
HE DID BEGIN to CORRECT EVEN THAT . SIN MUST be exposed and corrected .
JESUS MUST be absolutey preached to all
I suggest we do this simply lovehomework assignemnt i suggested .
Be prepared to see TRUE MEN , Grave ones at work
and not the effimeniate women like men get got to today
WHO do more to entertain , who behave as women and even as children
This generation has zero idea how a true man of GOD even looks like . They too busy
on the big ALL OUT WE OWE THE WORLD an apology tour .
NO , actually THIS CHURCH AGE DOES OWE AN APOLOGY .
BUT IT aint to the unrepentant sinners , ITS TO GOD ALL MIGHTY AND HIS CHRIST . what a shame upon this church age .

You too

Your not going to win any sinners to God. Because you think you are greater than they are. Stop pumping your chest. and get on your knees and beg God to forgive you

then go out and spread the love of God so you can draw people just as guilty as you are to christ. and they can find redemption, forgiveness, and power over sin.

 

[Kokyu]

AI is pretty fascinating, @Kokyu! I’m glad it’s given us a chance to explore how we each see faith and how we try to live it out.

Personally, I find AI intrusive and entirely unnecessary in a conversation with another actual person. I don't want or need a machine to tell me, or others, what I've written, or mean. I know my own mind and understand well those topics I choose to address and so, I say exactly what I want and intend to say in my posts.

In any event, AI can very easily begin to do the thinking for the person who uses it, subtly coming to occupy the role of instructor, and filter, and definer of a user's interactions with others. No thanks.

Thank you for the honest dialogue. I know these back-and-forths can create tension at times, but I hope this helps ease some of that and reminds us that mutual respect goes a long way.

After over twenty years of posting online, I don't find even the most aggressive exchanges with folks particularly stressful. As I said, I know what I think and why very well and so don't get emotionally upset when others strongly disagree with me.

I don't think of disagreement, or even very strong disagreement, as disrespect. Disrespect only comes into discussions through things like ad hominem, Strawmanning, tu quoque, and assuming/imagining bad motives.

 

[Muna]

Spot on right . TRUST in no man . Test all men .
TRUST IN GOD , IN CHRIST .

I love these

Jerm 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

Jerm 17:7 Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is.

Psalm 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

Prov 3:26 For the LORD shall be thy confidence, and shall keep thy foot from being taken

 

[Behold]

lol again

lead them to Christ, do not judge them

Always have., and i always will be this one.

= "He that is spiritual judges all things".........Paul explains.

yes you did judge them,,

I didnt judge "them" i judged their sexual lifestyle., as otherwise they are just "sinners".
Now, You can't comprehend this....... and i understand.

Also, as i told you, when i post the vivid account of what their perversion looks like,.. so that you can see it, and this offended you. then that is interesting......isn't it?
See, what ive done has the effect of causing a certain type of Chrisitan who does not understand that God is not just "Love".......to see the light.
And you are now well lit, indeed. @Eternally Grateful

I have quite a few former gay men in my church, one is a leader..

So, because a few previouly gay men that you know, are now trying to live the straight life, you are offended when photos of those who are deep in depravity are posted on a Public Christian forum?

You need to think more and post less.

He repented AFTER he came to christ.. Because people loved him, they did not judge him,, He is now married with 4 beautiful kids..

What you posted would be a good Thread topic.

Here is the title.

"Can a former Sodomite, who lived inside the Gay Sexuality lifestyle...... become a born again Christian, and end up "straight", and married with Children.

Why dont you post that Thread ?

thank God you did not go to try to witness to him, he would be lost forever.

Oh i would never show photos of Homosexuals doing what they do to a person who is a homosexual.
I only do this for Christians on a forum, to see who is going to react, and how, as this is very revealing to God and to the other members.

So, when ive shared Jesus with Homosexuals, i only show them the Love of God that is The Cross of Christ.
Im not a "turn or burn" type of narrow minded Evangelist, little fella.

I use to try to deal with a particular Gay Man, ......who is now deceased.....and He could perfectly quote entire Chapters of the Gospel of John. (KJV).
Very interestig person... I use to give him money (small loans).. and rides back and forth to work.
He was devoted to Gay Sex Lifestyle.......and i asked Him once..

"Gary, if you knew that God could change your heart, and help you to become "straight", in your desires, would you let Him"?

He told me......"Oh NO !!".