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If that boundary can’t be respected, then I think it’s best to keep some distance.

When you post that Preterism is truth, and Hell isnt real and the devil is not really doing anything, then you offend Truth.
So, as you do this, you have to expect that with the offence comes the response.
That's reality.
 
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I’ve experienced abuse in the past, so I hope you’ll understand where I’m coming from, @Kokyu and @Truly.

That’s why I truly appreciate genuine conversation—real dialogue where people listen and engage thoughtfully. When Scripture is shared without context or consent, it can feel intrusive or even triggering for me. I know others may experience it differently, but that's how it affects me personally.

If that boundary can’t be respected, then I think it’s best to keep some distance. We all have our struggles, and sadly, I’ve found that people aren’t always thoughtful or kind. Some prefer to mock, dominate conversations, or push their own views without regard for others. I’ve been guilty of doing that myself at times. I’m not perfect—far from it. That’s exactly why I lean on Yeshua… because I see Him as the one true source of hope and healing.

Its a good practice to show how something is out of context. You can use a multitude of scriptures which all have a specific context themselves and remain true to that context. Paul shows us he did just that in Romans he is in various books and chapters and pulls all of those into Romans.

If your past experience is holding you back, what will you do when abuse is heaped upon you for the word of God?

Any of us who would be remove because of persecution, or just the fear of it will be the first to remove themselves from the word by which the same will come.

Who hasn't been abused in life in some way or another?

You have to forget what is behind you, because more of it for Jesus Christ's sake is definitely coming.

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It's thinks like this... I didn't ask for any of that.
Who asks for any of it?

Any way dude, ma'am, you have a good one.

Typical and unnecessary.

I am a woman as you know.
This is gaslighting type stuff. Im not a fan. You're not my therapist...

For what, mentioning the persecution concerning the word?

Mat 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

Which shows one who gets offended at it all.

Whereas here its called " Confirming the souls of the disciples"

Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Not gaslighting.

Phil 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake
 

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Always have., and i always will be this one.

= "He that is spiritual judges all things".........Paul explains.
could have fooled me, all I see you do is judge them
I didnt judge "them" i judged their sexual lifestyle., as otherwise they are just "sinners".
Now, You can't comprehend this....... and i understand.
I do not have to judge anything,


Also, as i told you, when i post the vivid account of what their perversion looks like,.. so that you can see it, and this offended you. then that is interesting......isn't it?
See, what ive done has the effect of causing a certain type of Chrisitan who does not understand that God is not just "Love".......to see the light.
And you are now well lit, indeed. @Eternally Grateful
dude, Please stop trying to defend yourself.
So, because a few previouly gay men that you know, are now trying to live the straight life, you are offended when photos of those who are deep in depravity are posted on a Public Christian forum?
I am not offended.. You need to stop. your making a fool of yourself assuming what I think

just stop

I just made a point. you do not judge them, You came screaming at me..
You need to think more and post less.
I have been telling you this for ages now. yet you keep posting. and I keep having to correct.
What you posted would be a good Thread topic.

Here is the title.

"Can a former Sodomite, who lived inside the Gay Sexuality lifestyle...... become a born again Christian, and end up "straight", and married with Children.

Why dont you post that Thread ?





Oh i would never show photos of Homosexuals doing what they do to a person who is a homosexual.
I only do this for Christians on a forum, to see who is going to react, and how, as this is very revealing to God and to the other members.

So, when ive shared Jesus with Homosexuals, i only show them the Love of God that is The Cross of Christ.
Im not a "turn or burn" type of narrow minded Evangelist, little fella.

I use to try to deal with a particular Gay Man, ......who is now deceased.....and He could perfectly quote entire Chapters of the Gospel of John. (KJV).
Very interestig person... I use to give him money (small loans).. and rides back and forth to work.
He was devoted to Gay Sex Lifestyle.......and i asked Him once..

"Gary, if you knew that God could change your heart, and help you to become "straight", in your desires, would you let Him"?

He told me......"Oh NO !!".
yawn

Again, I stated a fact.

If they are lost. do not call out their sin, Bring them to christ with no judgment, We are all sinners and we all fall short.


if they repent and get saved, God will work on them

if they do not. again, do not judge them, love them


if you agree, fine

if you do not agree.. then we are back to square one
 

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could have fooled me, all I see you do is judge them

Not in my posts., do i judge them.
Maybe in your dreams.


I do not have to judge anything,

A Christian, born again....MUST "check fruit"......you MIUST find out what you are dealing with, when dealing with "christian" forum members, and Mods.... and pulpit speakers....and Pastors and Bishops.... and .. "chrisitan" commentary and book writers......."christian" online website creators.... "christian TV preachers".... and "Christian Youtube" creators.....all of this and more.
If you dont, then you are opening your mind to only God knows what, and you'll be deceived, accordingly.

So, "discernment"........of others, is not juding them, as you perceive it wrongly in your carnal thinking.....its actually spiritual evaluation of them, as you are suppose to do.
You must do this.
See, If you were a real student of Paul's theology, then you would know this.....already., as this is Pauline Theology 101.

dude, Please stop trying to defend yourself.

Ive nothing to defend.
You need attention, so you keep posting to me.
Nothing new.

if they repent and get saved, God will work on them

Thats not how it works.

What you meant to say is.....>"if they give God their faith in Christ, then God will save them".

Remember that next time, and someone might mistake you for a Christian, if you do.
 

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Not in my posts., do i judge them.
Maybe in your dreams.




A Christian, born again....MUST "check fruit"......you MIUST find out what you are dealing with, when dealing with "christian" forum members, and Mods.... and pulpit speakers....and Pastors and Bishops.... and .. "chrisitan" commentary and book writers......."christian" online website creators.... "christian TV preachers".... and "Christian Youtube" creators.....all of this and more.
If you dont, then you are opening your mind to only God knows what, and you'll be deceived, accordingly.

So, "discernment"........of others, is not juding them, as you perceive it wrongly in your carnal thinking.....its actually spiritual evaluation of them, as you are suppose to do.
You must do this.
See, If you were a real student of Paul's theology, then you would know this.....already., as this is Pauline Theology 101.



Ive nothing to defend.
You need attention, so you keep posting to me.
Nothing new.



Thats not how it works.

What you meant to say is.....>"if they give God their faith in Christ, then God will save them".

Remember that next time, and someone might mistake you for a Christian, if you do.
lol

Try again, you just failed

all the tax collector did was cry out. he never promised anything or said anything else.

He cried out
 

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lol

Try again, you just failed

What i do is just let the members read what i post, vs what is being posted to me, and they understand.
Its really that simple.

It was kinda strange for you to post that there are some formerly gay men who are leading your church, (whatever that is)... so, i need to stop posting pics of Homosexuals with their Children, on the Forum.......you told me.
See, you connected some dots there that are only in your head....
Really.
 
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The carelessness received.
I don't understand this particular sentence
I just feel as though we aren't compatible so that is fine.

You might mean, "I don't agree"

But the above sounds like a man who is breaking up with his girlfriend.

I believe in letting people go and allowing God to just deal with them


So all the best!

You keep saying goodbye to me.

How many times have you done this so far?

But you eventually come back to quibble and say goodbye again and again.
 
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What makes a person a follower of Christ?

John 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying,

I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

Similarly John writes,

1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

3 John 1:11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

For example, follow not that which is evil

1 Thes 5:15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.

There are many more
 
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Please leave me alone. Please be encouraged to go make your own bible study threads. I already know the bible well enough for myself, go help new people. Thank you and God bless.

You asked what a follower of Christ was and I posted Jesus very own words to you (not my own)

If you already know the bible well enough, why ask a question where the answer would resemble the above reply?

Why must I leave this thread?
 

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then go out and spread the love of God so you can draw people just as guilty as you are to christ. and they can find redemption, forgiveness, and power over sin.
Do you know what is interesting?

Words like "love" and "love of God" do not appear a single time in the book of Acts. Nope. Not once.

At the same time, words like "fear" (Acts 2:43, 5:5, 5:11, 19:17), "fear of the Lord" (Acts 9:31), "fear God" (Acts 13:16), "repent" (Acts 2:38, 3:19, 8:22, 17:30, 26:20), and "repentance" (Acts 5:31, 11:18, 13:24, 19:4, 20:21, 26:20) appear there frequently.

What am I saying?

That we should not be spreading the love of God?

No. Instead, I am simply suggesting that your present understanding of the love of God might be sorely lacking.

God chastens those he loves, and he scourges those he receives.

Those who are without chastisement are bastards.

God's words. Not mine.
 
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You too

Your not going to win any sinners to God. Because you think you are greater than they are. Stop pumping your chest. and get on your knees and beg God to forgive you

then go out and spread the love of God so you can draw people just as guilty as you are to christ. and they can find redemption, forgiveness, and power over sin.
This same approach you just gave me
OH friend i have heard this for years and for years . I seem to notice , however , the ones bringing
it darn SURE DONT BRING SCRIPS to back up they accusations .
So , as much as i love ya , i gotta say
Through the years as often as many have tried to victim card , to the hate card
to whatever card they pull
I AINT EVER ONCE heeded a word one outta them lips of theirs .
BUT , HOW abouts WE DO what i told us
HOW abouts we GET IN the BIBLE for ourselves and see HOW they did things . That is another thing i notice
about these who got nothing but a house of cards to throw at me , THEY SURE DONT SEEM to DO THAT .
they just keep on batterning on about how mean , judgy , hateful and etc i am .
But no worries , They wont silence these lips .
Someone gotta do something . WHEN is this lovey do judge not generation of christendom gonna wake up and realize
YA Cards and accusations , and judge nots
HAVE ALLOWED EVIL to TAKE OVER them churches . LEAVEN LEAVENS and ITS TIME this generation
WAKE UPS to that FACT and i mean REAL fast .
 
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Why must I leave this thread?
As I have told you before, the Bible says that "God is love." It does not say that "Love is God," but that is what many professing believers have duped themselves into believing. In other words, they start with a warped concept of what "love" is, and then they fashion of "god" of their own making to match that concept.

Why must you leave this thread?

So you don't topple over anybody's idol.
 

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Hello, I find Pauls definition of Agape love good enough.

4 The love is long-suffering, it is kind, the love doth not envy, the love doth not vaunt itself, is not puffed up,

5 doth not act unseemly, doth not seek its own things, is not provoked, doth not impute evil,

6 rejoiceth not over the unrighteousness, and rejoiceth with the truth;

7 all things it beareth, all it believeth, all it hopeth, all it endureth.

It can only be done by abiding in Christ.
 
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Hello, I find Pauls definition of Agape love good enough.

4 The love is long-suffering, it is kind, the love doth not envy, the love doth not vaunt itself, is not puffed up,

5 doth not act unseemly, doth not seek its own things, is not provoked, doth not impute evil,

6 rejoiceth not over the unrighteousness, and rejoiceth with the truth;

7 all things it beareth, all it believeth, all it hopeth, all it endureth.

It can only be done by abiding in Christ.
While writing to these same Corinthians, Paul said:

2 Corinthians chapter 5

[9] Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
[10] For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
[11] Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
[12] For we commend not ourselves again unto you, but give you occasion to glory on our behalf, that ye may have somewhat to answer them which glory in appearance, and not in heart.
[13] For whether we be beside ourselves, it is to God: or whether we be sober, it is for your cause.
[14] For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
[15] And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

The love of Christ is what constrained Paul to live for Christ, yet he persuaded men because he understood the terror of the Lord. According to his own testimony, he preached that everyone should repent and bring forth works worthy of repentance.

Acts chapter 26

[13] At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me.
[14] And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
[15] And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
[16] But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
[17] Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
[18] To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
[19] Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
[20] But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
 
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As I have told you before, the Bible says that "God is love." It does not say that "Love is God," but that is what many professing believers have duped themselves into believing. In other words, they start with a warped concept of what "love" is, and then they fashion of "god" of their own making to match that concept.

Why must you leave this thread?

So you don't topple over anybody's idol.

I had to read that a couple of times, that really ressonates with me.

Makes great sense, thanks for that
 
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I had to read that a couple of times, that really ressonates with me.

Makes great sense, thanks for that
Psalm 107 ends with these words:

"Whoso is wise, and will observe these things, even they shall understand the lovingkindness of the LORD." (Psalm 107:43)

A lot of professing Christians, both here and elsewhere, really need to read the entirety of that psalm so they can see what "these things" are that help us to properly "understand the lovingkindness of the LORD."

A mandatory homework assignment?

It couldn't hurt...
 
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Psalm 107 ends with these words:

"Whoso is wise, and will observe these things, even they shall understand the lovingkindness of the LORD." (Psalm 107:43)

A lot of professing Christians, both here and elsewhere, really need to read the entirety of that psalm so they can see what "these things" are that help us to properly "understand the lovingkindness of the LORD."

A mandatory homework assignment?

It couldn't hurt...

Awesome! The Lord had led me to this very verse first thing this morning, and so I was reading it before I rose out of bed. He is amazing that he led you to post the very Psalm.

Psalm 107:21 Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men!
Psalm 107:22 And let them sacrifice the sacrifices of thanksgiving, and declare his works with rejoicing.

This is one of the parts that I thought was interesting

Psalm 107:23 They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters;

Psalm 107:24 These see the works of the LORD, and his wonders in the deep.

Psalm 107:23 For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof.

What come to mind to you there?
 

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While writing to these same Corinthians, Paul said:

2 Corinthians chapter 5

[9] Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
[10] For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
[11] Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
[12] For we commend not ourselves again unto you, but give you occasion to glory on our behalf, that ye may have somewhat to answer them which glory in appearance, and not in heart.
[13] For whether we be beside ourselves, it is to God: or whether we be sober, it is for your cause.
[14] For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
[15] And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

The love of Christ is what constrained Paul to live for Christ, yet he persuaded men because he understood the terror of the Lord. According to his own testimony, he preached that everyone should repent and bring forth works worthy of repentance.

Acts chapter 26

[13] At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me.
[14] And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
[15] And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
[16] But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
[17] Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
[18] To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
[19] Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
[20] But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

What does that have to do with abiding in Christ, and loving as it's presented by Paul?

Paul preached the gospel to the uttermost of the earth. He did his job. Now what?

1 Corinthians 13: 13 So now, get three tings dat stay: we can trus God, an we can know everyting goin come out okay bumbye, an we get love an aloha. From da three tings, da love an aloha kine, dass da main ting, an da bestes way.
 

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Awesome! The Lord had led me to this very verse first thing this morning, and so I was reading it before I rose out of bed. He is amazing that he led you to post the very Psalm.

Psalm 107:21 Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men!
Psalm 107:22 And let them sacrifice the sacrifices of thanksgiving, and declare his works with rejoicing.

This is one of the parts that I thought was interesting

Psalm 107:23 They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters;

Psalm 107:24 These see the works of the LORD, and his wonders in the deep.

Psalm 107:23 For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof.

What come to mind to you there?
Honestly, my mind immediately goes to Jonah, and how there was a great tempest because he was running from the Lord.

What were you thinking?

When Jesus calmed the wind and the waves?
 
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