Fake Christians

[Eternally Grateful]

I'm not picking on you sister, just using your post as a jumping off point to have my say and try and try to clarify a could of things, because things often get conflated and confused so easily. I agree it's not our responsibility to finger point or to hate and judge those who don't know the Lord.

But I want to mention that choosing to not produce a TV show that normalizes a sinful lifestyle wouldn't be finger pointing or hate, nor would it cause anyone to dig their heels in their sin. Doing a show that normalizes and promotes Godliness and wholesomeness would be more pleasing to the Lord, while normalizing and seeming to promote a sinful lifestyle would surely be an offense against Him. And I would think if anyone is truly a believer they wouldn't be seeking to please man and special interest groups but seeking to please God.

Paul wrote that it IS our job to "judge" those within the church......those who are professing to be Christians while doing something that normalizes and promotes sin shouldn't be surprised to be called out on it by their brethren in Christ...as long as it's done in a right spirit it wouldn't be hate either, but is love for them and for those who their actions are going to influence in a wrong way.

Could be wrong but I'm guessing this couple were told they had to do this in order to get the investment $ and sponsorship that they needed to produce the show......it has always generally been true that most of the power and money of this world is in the hands of the unGodly. I'm sure these two are very comfortably off already, why they need to keep on trying so darn hard to make even more money is a question I have. Something seems to be driving them. Jesus said we cannot serve both God and mammon. It's scary what people will do for $$ once it gets a grip on them.....without exaggeration, it can make people willing to sell their soul. Well, there's a lesson for us to not give the devil a foothold.

1Ti 6:10
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

great post. Amen sister.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That is very sad, but not too surprising. Just what this world needs, another TV show normalizing and promoting homosexuality. This is what self-righteousness (virtue-signalling) leads to....it is not the righteousness of God. Can see with these things the truth of why man's righteousness is as filthy rags to a holy God.

its all woke nonsense.. Its the new wave. Hopefully we see it diminish soon.. Not only on TV but in our classrooms

 

[Lizbeth]

its all woke nonsense.. Its the new wave. Hopefully we see it diminish soon.. Not only on TV but in our classrooms

Unfortunately I think it is part of transgression coming to the full, brother. Sin and evil growing up like weeds waiting to be "harvested" (judged and cut down) by the Lord in the end of this age. As well as I believe and hope there will be a harvest of righteousness maturing at the same time, but probably smaller...only a remnant.

 

[Behold]

lol. I am 60 years old my friend

Yet you sound "12".
Isn't that right "dude'?

Grow up.
You are not on your Facebook Page.
Try to remember that @Eternally Grateful

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Unfortunately I think it is part of transgression coming to the full, brother. Sin and evil growing up like weeds waiting to be "harvested" (judged and cut down) by the Lord in the end of this age. As well as I believe and hope there will be a harvest of righteousness maturing at the same time, but probably smaller...only a remnant.

2 Tim 3: But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, ...4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

we should not be suprised as if this was not to be expected

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yet you sound "12".
Isn't that right "dude'?

Grow up.
You are not on your Facebook Page.
Try to remember that @Eternally Grateful

You keep acting like a bully

I will treat you like one DUDE

 

[Lizbeth]

we need to expose ALL , not some , all sins .
YE shall not hate your neighbor in your heart you SHALL in any WAY correct him and NOT ALLOW sin upon him .
WHERES THE LOVE IN SEEKER FRIENDLY . Its the love of the world , NOT OF GOD .
it allows folks to remain in sin
and at most it only rebukes those who correct sin and behaves as though the very words of GOD ARE WICKED AND EVIL .
we got problems friend .

Amen, we're called to expose the works of darkness, rather than fellowship with it or engage in it. Seeker friendly approach often is fellowshipping with the works of darkness (even if not engaging in it).

For the sake of discussion, the question comes to mind, how do we expose it? I think you agree it can't mean in a way that we are to try to micro-manage people's lives as that would be impossible anyway and also presumptuous. I'm reminded about where the bible also says love COVERS a MULTITUDE of sins. So it sounds like we should pick our battles so to speak, with wisdom and the leading of the Holy Spirit.....and I believe we don't even always expose sin by openly confronting it. Works of darkness often gets exposed by our light....by how we live and behave by contrast.....it is often exposed simply by our not fellowshipping with it. You know something brother, it just dawned on me in relation to this subject, that a few times I've had people get mad and upset with me without me even saying a word....the spirit in them knows, and getting mad and upset is that spirit being exposed, and it is God working. (Not that I rejoice in that or anything, I'm just sad when that happens and hope they will "see" what is being exposed and turn to the Lord.)

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Amen, we're called to expose the works of darkness, rather than fellowship with it or engage in it. Seeker friendly approach often is fellowshipping with the works of darkness (even if not engaging in it).

For the sake of discussion, the question comes to mind, how do we expose it? I think you agree it can't mean in a way that we are to try to micro-manage people's lives as that would be impossible anyway and also presumptuous. I'm reminded about where the bible also says love COVERS a MULTITUDE of sins. So it sounds like we should pick our battles so to speak, with wisdom and the leading of the Holy Spirit.....and I believe we don't even always expose sin by openly confronting it. Works of darkness often gets exposed by our light....by how we live and behave by contrast.....it is often exposed simply by our not fellowshipping with it. You know something brother, it just dawned on me in relation to this subject, that a few times I've had people get mad and upset with me without me even saying a word....the spirit in them knows, and getting mad and upset is that spirit being exposed, and it is God working. (Not that I rejoice in that or anything, I'm just sad when that happens and hope they will "see" what is being exposed and turn to the Lord.)

I think of the woman brought before Jesus. guilty of sin. and caught in the very act so witnesses were involved.

What did Jesus say?

Let he who has no sin cast the first stone.

then he asked here where her accusers went,

He said he did not judge her either.. And told her to go and continue in sin no more.

lets not be the accuser. (or the pharisee like I called out earlier)

lets use Jesus as an example..

 

[marks]

I believe we Christians have to treat everybody with respect and kindness just as Jesus would do. Same sex couples or anybody else. Telling the truth in love is very often an excuse for finger pointing.

Yep. What other excuse for this thread than to say, "Look at the sinners!"

Guess who is most likely to do that?

Much love!

 

[marks]

Just because we have all sinned in the past does not mean we should not warn sexual perverts that they are on the highway to hell and they need to repent and live for Jesus

Except that's not what you are doing, now, is it?

Much love!

 

[Marvelloustime]

There is a love which seems right unto man but it cometh of the world .
Then there is the LOVE of GOD .
For real good examples of that love at work , lets read us some bible .
See how THEY did things . because this other love that many now heed is sensual
it cometh with only partial truths and yet is and has silenced the TRUTH
and correction . The only sin to it is, the light that does expose sin , the truth and corrrection that does expose
sin and error . That is exactly how so much sin and error has come within even christendom .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

That is exactly what has happened .
I call it the love god for their god has become this sensual love of this world .
Satan aint been sleeping and he knows how to allure men through the lusts of the flesh
to get all the worship of man and to leave ee man dead in sins and headed right to perdition .
Their golden bull is this love
and i can assure us all ITS NOT OF GOD , but is of he who desired to be as GOD and to leave men on the path
to perdition .

@amigo de christo

 

[MatthewG]

How is it our job to judge people. If a person likes a male character more than a female character who are you to judge. If a female likes a female character, who are you the judge. God‘s gonna look at all of our hearts and see what we really desire at the end of life and this fixation on people sexual preference is actually kind of weird when you think about it. Because it’s not my responsibility to take care of some other grown adult that makes their own choices, especially if it was my own child and they decided to turn one way or the other as soon as they’re 18 during an adult, they can choose what they wanna do with their life And sometimes that starts at a teenager. They choose what they’re gonna do. I don’t understand why people want to obsessively find one law within a person and then judge them on account of that one flaw when all of us have flaws. But yet people wanna quote the Bible and say but we must do this and we must do that and we must do this and we must do that. Alaska Commandment, I remember reading about was to believe on the son of God and to love others. Faith and love. But what people love to do absolutely love is to pick on condemn and judge and that’s just not right. I get being encouraging hey man stop doing the drugs. Hey man stop doing the alcohol. Hey man stop using so much pornography you gonna mess yourself up. But at the end of the day, no one on this planet is perfect but the Lord Jesus Christ he’s the one that came to safe centers and yes, our old nature slowly dies away the more the person for Suzanne, but that doesn’t mean that they’re not gonna wrestle and struggle with their flesh just because you can quote a scripture that says that you can be sinless When we say that we have no sin we make God be a liar. Don’t you get it or do you just not want to get it and you just want to just push those things to the side and simply not care because you want to do what you wanna do and not with the Lord Jesus Christ would have you do to be merciful to be kind to be forgiving do not judge and condemn. God can do that on his own he can chastise a person or whatever it’s called. That’s not my job. Anyone that says it’s my job to pick on and condemn other human beings man you’re wrong you absolutely wrong. God can be the judge and he’s gonna judge every single one of us when we die.

 

[MatthewG]

if you’re part of the perfect church yeah go ahead and judge you need your you need your church to be perfect and flawless with no sin in it no spot wrinkle. Good luck. Good luck with that cause every single one of us has some type of seeing that we deal with whether it’s demeaning people, judging people being critical of people All of it is just missing the mark and Jesus Christ is the only one that gets you to hit the mark because he’s the one that hits the mark and not you don’t you get it? Anyway, this was recorded by using my voice on the iPhone and it typed it out. The other message might be a little bit messed up, but anyway, I just wanted to point these things out.

 

[Muna]

wow, you have made 155 posts. and you know everyone.. lol..

no pride here

Just because someone might have a lower post count on a forum does not mean they are unfamilar with another's posts on various forums over the course of many years.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Just because someone might have a lower post count on a forum does not mean they are unfamilar with another's posts on various forums over the course of many years.

so we justify his actions?

talk about excusing sin.. but hey ok..

lets judge sin, as long as it is not us and our sins.

 

[Muna]

so we justify his actions?

talk about excusing sin.. but hey ok..

lets judge sin, as long as it is not us and our sins.

You leveraged your post on the number of his posts, when that is neither here nor there, but if he had spoken evil just point that out.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You leveraged your post on the number of his posts, when that is neither here nor there, but if he had spoken evil just point that out.

my problem is I have no idea who this person is, I never even seen before that I know of.

he walked into a conversation between myself and another member, Then tried to tell me my idea of love was lacking or something. Then when I responded in kind and context of my conversation he broke into. He got mad. (The person I was discussing with is a perfect example of a modern day pharisee the way he judges everyone, )
Then in the end, tried to say it was my fault. And in pride avid like he was above me and put me on ignore.


people like that who are that sensitive probably should not be in chat rooms.

and they need to heed jesus words. Let he who has no sin cast the first stone

don;t be like th pharisen and judge, then when you get called out walk away

be like the woman. Who gre from the love of God

 

[Muna]

my problem is I have no idea who this person is, I never even seen before that I know of.

Let me just say this, with folks (including myself) changing usernames as often as I do I can agree with you on that point, that its hard to know whether you actually know who a person is or not (and so might not be aware the other person is familar with us) or anothers posting style. You pretty much keep your same name so its easier for others to know who you are before you might another. That could probably be considered an unfair advantage in this case, but I also think its far more helpful when we get to know one another and get more familar with what someone means when they may write something, that takes time. And so I do think changing things up like that can sort of mess with things to a certain agree.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Let me just say this, with folks (including myself) changing usernames as often as I do I can agree with you on that point, that its hard to know whether you actually know who a person is or not (and so might not be aware the other person is familar with us) or anothers posting style. You pretty much keep your same name so its easier for others to know who you are before you might another. That could probably be considered an unfair advantage in this case, but I also think its far more helpful when we get to know one another and get more familar with what someone means when they may write something, that takes time. And so I do think changing things up like that can sort of mess with things to a certain agree.

if someone changes their name to something totally unrecognizable.. I would wonder what the person is trying to hide.