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FORM OF GODLINESS
Cookie cutters come in all shapes.
And God has a wrench for every nut, and eternal mercy for every person who will believe it.
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Cookie cutters come in all shapes.
And we are justified by the blood of Jesus, not by works.YOu still don't get it do you! A saved person has two sides to turn to daily. The old man with all its lusts, or the new man who is being conformed to the image of Jesus. Whatever lust was in your heart when you got saved is still there and will stay there! We do not turn from sin per se', but we live in the new man which has no lust.
And we are justified by the blood of Jesus, not by works. Works are just outward expressions showing we are justified.
And before you go there again :
Romans 5:20
King James Version
20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound
Romans 6
King James Version
6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Grace AND MERCY ARE NOT LICESNES TO SIN, BUT TO LIVE ACCORDING TO THE NEW MAN WHO IS BEING CONFORMED TO THE IMAGE OF Jesus.
A saved person has two sides to turn to daily. The old man with all its lusts, or the new man who is being conformed to the image of Jesus. Whatever lust was in your heart when you got saved is still there and will stay there!YOu still don't get it do you! A saved person has two sides to turn to daily. The old man with all its lusts, or the new man who is being conformed to the image of Jesus. Whatever lust was in your heart when you got saved is still there and will stay there! We do not turn from sin per se', but we live in the new man which has no lust.
And we are justified by the blood of Jesus, not by works. Works are just outward expressions showing we are justified.
And before you go there again :
Romans 5:20
King James Version
20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound
Romans 6
King James Version
6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Grace AND MERCY ARE NOT LICESNES TO SIN, BUT TO LIVE ACCORDING TO THE NEW MAN WHO IS BEING CONFORMED TO THE IMAGE OF Jesus.
Grace AND MERCY ARE NOT LICESNES TO SIN,YOu still don't get it do you! A saved person has two sides to turn to daily. The old man with all its lusts, or the new man who is being conformed to the image of Jesus. Whatever lust was in your heart when you got saved is still there and will stay there! We do not turn from sin per se', but we live in the new man which has no lust.
And we are justified by the blood of Jesus, not by works. Works are just outward expressions showing we are justified.
And before you go there again :
Romans 5:20
King James Version
20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound
Romans 6
King James Version
6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Grace AND MERCY ARE NOT LICESNES TO SIN, BUT TO LIVE ACCORDING TO THE NEW MAN WHO IS BEING CONFORMED TO THE IMAGE OF Jesus.
The flesh is dead...True. We must die to self daily and live unto the new man being formed in us! To many people think they have to reform th eflesh. The flesh is dead and we need to unlearn what we learned before coming ot Christ anbd replace it with the Word!
That is "discipleship". Thats not the same as Salvation.That is "discipleship".
Thats not the same as Salvation.
Salvation is what God did for you on The Cross.
Discipleship, is what you do as your "reasonable service"...., after God has given you (Salvation)= what He provided for you, on the Cross.
I do wonder if people actually listen to what they say and read what they write.
The body is dead to sin, when the soul and heart are purified from lust.
And we are justified by the blood of Jesus, not by works.
I.e. man not justified by works, but by faith only.
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
So long as Scripture is contradicted, the doctrine and faith are both false.
The flesh is dead...
I do wonder if people actually listen to what they say and read what they write.
The body is dead to sin, when the soul and heart are purified from lust.
Talk about having a 'free spirit'. OSAS is Aquarius liberalism of the 60's made for the Christian free sin movement.
I know that OSAS duality likes to think their souls are forever separated and preserved from the deeds of the body, but claiming their flesh is dead is really out there.
Actually there is only side any person is on at one time: Light or Darkness.
Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who is on the LORD'S side?
Those thinking to be in the gray, need repent or be spewed out.
But then, that would coincide with thinking the old man of sin is the physical body and is crucified.
Sorry but works prove faith, but not justification.Sorry but works prove faith, but not justification. we are justified to good works not because of good works.
Ephesians 2:8-10
King James Version
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Thebible doesn't contradict itself- so your understranding of James is what is faulty here!
Yes and if sinless perfection is what te3h bible taught, Paul was a fool to exhort Chrisatians to continue to lay aside th eold man and its way of thinking and adopt the new man which cannot sin.
YOu forget Jesus said to forgive someone 70X7 and 1 John 1:9 in you r pharasaical legalism.
And your continued lying about things you know nothing about demeans you.
Well you finally said something biblically correct! Hoorah! Yes either a person is living in the old man which God no longer sees, or they are living in the new man which cannot sin! There is no grey!
we are justified to good works not because of good works.Sorry but works prove faith, but not justification. we are justified to good works not because of good works.
Ephesians 2:8-10
King James Version
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Thebible doesn't contradict itself- so your understranding of James is what is faulty here!
Yes and if sinless perfection is what te3h bible taught, Paul was a fool to exhort Chrisatians to continue to lay aside th eold man and its way of thinking and adopt the new man which cannot sin.
YOu forget Jesus said to forgive someone 70X7 and 1 John 1:9 in you r pharasaical legalism.
And your continued lying about things you know nothing about demeans you.
Well you finally said something biblically correct! Hoorah! Yes either a person is living in the old man which God no longer sees, or they are living in the new man which cannot sin! There is no grey!
Yes either a person is living in the old man which God no longer sees, or they are living in the new man which cannot sin! There is no grey!Sorry but works prove faith, but not justification. we are justified to good works not because of good works.
Ephesians 2:8-10
King James Version
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Thebible doesn't contradict itself- so your understranding of James is what is faulty here!
Yes and if sinless perfection is what te3h bible taught, Paul was a fool to exhort Chrisatians to continue to lay aside th eold man and its way of thinking and adopt the new man which cannot sin.
YOu forget Jesus said to forgive someone 70X7 and 1 John 1:9 in you r pharasaical legalism.
And your continued lying about things you know nothing about demeans you.
Well you finally said something biblically correct! Hoorah! Yes either a person is living in the old man which God no longer sees, or they are living in the new man which cannot sin! There is no grey!
Sorry but works prove faith, but not justification.
And so, the false doctrine of justification becomes a false definition of justification.
Works proving faith is the justification: justification is not being proven, because justification is the proving.
(Justify: to show or prove to be right or reasonable: "the person appointed has fully justified our confidence")
Justification is the showing and proving that faith is alive and not dead: justification is the proof of faith by works.
But with OSAS, justification is by faith only, and faith is indeed proven by works, but not the justification.
And so, OSAS salvation and justification has no proof, neither in Scripture nor in reality.
A person's faith becomes their own justification apart from any proof:
"Because I believe it, it is so, and no proof is needed to show it is."
And the Scripture is fulfilled:
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Believing one's own mind more than Scripture is worshipping the creature more than the Creator.
we are justified to good works not because of good works.
Contradicting of Scripture followed by twisting of Scripture, as well as redefining words again:
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Scripture does not say 'to' works, but by works, which is with works, not before works.
OSAS requires rejecting the simple truth of Scripture and the normal reason of honest men.
When men seek to justify themselves by wresting Scripture of it's sensical reasoning, their minds must also become unraveled to do so:
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
A form of godliness is shaped by men with minds willfully blinded from Scripture and reason.
Yes either a person is living in the old man which God no longer sees, or they are living in the new man which cannot sin! There is no grey!
Like The Shadow, when you are committing sin in the old man, God no longer sees you doing so.
Your departure from reality is complete.
Like a delusional child trying to hide in plain sight, "Maybe if I close my eyes, He can't see me."
And we are justified by the blood of Jesus, not by works.
I.e. man not justified by works, but by faith only.
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
So long as Scripture is contradicted, the doctrine and faith are both false.