Thanks for reading his commentary on the video. You‘ve gone with him.
Muslim propaganda: Christians are Vlad the Impaler. Kill them.
God Commands Righteous Violence
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Thanks for reading his commentary on the video. You‘ve gone with him.
Muslim propaganda: Christians are Vlad the Impaler. Kill them.
A word to Muslims. True Christians aren’t Vlad the Impaler.
Know this:
“Jesus lied. … You are not following Jesus if you aren’t armed, ready to kill” is not the teaching of genuine Christianity. It is the teaching of the evil one.
If you kill true Christians then you are killing those who are following the teaching and example of Jesus and the apostles. Don’t do it. It’s evil. We do not use the weapons of the world and we will be vindicated by God. He will take vengeance on you.
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A word to Christians and Muslims.
Put away the sword. Come, listen to, believe and follow Jesus of Nazareth.
P.S.
Divine judgement delivered through Nebuchadnezzar and Vespasian. Let’s think about it.
Know this:
“Jesus lied. … You are not following Jesus if you aren’t armed, ready to kill” is not the teaching of genuine Christianity. It is the teaching of the evil one.
If you kill true Christians then you are killing those who are following the teaching and example of Jesus and the apostles. Don’t do it. It’s evil. We do not use the weapons of the world and we will be vindicated by God. He will take vengeance on you.
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A word to Christians and Muslims.
Put away the sword. Come, listen to, believe and follow Jesus of Nazareth.
P.S.
Divine judgement delivered through Nebuchadnezzar and Vespasian. Let’s think about it.
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ScottA
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I don't know about Vlad the Impaler, but I am good with reeducating Christian men who have for so long been feminized by society and even within the church.
How can you read the commentary and not know about Vlad the Impaler? He’s a Christian hero and role model, according to @Wrangler. (The speaker in the video - who made some good points - doesn’t even so much as mention Vlad’s name in passing.)
So am I.
RLT63
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Was Vlad the Impaler a Christian
Yes, Vlad III (Vlad the Impaler, also known as Vlad Țepeș or Vlad Dracula), the 15th-century prince of Wallachia, was a Christian—specifically raised in and primarily identified with Eastern Orthodoxy. Wallachia was an Orthodox Christian principality. Vlad was born into this tradition (around 1428–1431). His father, Vlad II Dracul, belonged to the Order of the Dragon, a Christian knightly order founded to defend Christendom against Ottoman expansion. Vlad himself supported the Orthodox Church: he founded or endowed monasteries (including Comana), donated to sites such as Mount Athos, associated with monks, and framed his wars against the Ottoman Empire as defense of Christianity. In a 1462 letter to Hungarian King Matthias Corvinus, he cited fighting “for the preservation of Christianity.” Contemporary and later accounts portray him as viewing himself as a Christian crusader against Ottoman forces. There is evidence of a possible late conversion to Roman Catholicism. After his defeat and imprisonment in Hungary (roughly 1462–1475), some sources report that he converted (or was required to convert) from Orthodoxy to Catholicism as a condition for release, Hungarian support, and marriage ties. Slavic/Russian accounts criticized him as a heretic for this; Wikipedia and certain Western sources note the change; Orthodox-leaning accounts often question its sincerity or permanence and emphasize his ongoing Orthodox patronage and identity. He died in 1476/1477 fighting Ottomans while allied with Christian rulers (including Moldavia’s Stephen the Great). In short, he was a Christian ruler whose life and wars centered on defending Christian Wallachia and broader Christendom from Ottoman expansion, rooted in Orthodoxy, with a reported pragmatic late shift toward Catholicism under political pressure. His brutal methods (including mass impalement) were of their era and directed heavily at enemies and perceived traitors; Romanian tradition remembers him more as a national and Christian defender than the later vampire legend.
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I think that’s a reasonable summary.
Christians who follow the teaching and example of Jesus and the apostles don’t do to their enemies what Vlad did to his. Vlad tried to “out Muslim” the Muslims. The end justifies the means? (The Muslims took his head as a trophy.)
Vlad had no interest in evangelizing his enemy. He killed the mission field. The mission field killed him. What kind of a Christian is that?
ScottA
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I just watched the video that was posted...and not seeing anything in the video about Vlad, I did regarded the commentary. I think it was just in the post, not the video, right?
Is this the way Jesus wants the world to view his followers?
To a certain extent that’s how the Islamic world views Christianity. It’s etched into the collective memory of Muslims.
@Wrangler is reinforcing that collective memory. That won’t make disciples for Jesus. It will only harden their hearts even more. They will continue to evangelize Christians (as well as non-Christians) and they will protect their families from Vlad “by any means necessary”.
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Turn back the calendar and listen to Paul.
The government (headed by Nero in Paul’s day) played its God-given role: non-Christian rulers must protect their citizens, including the followers of Jesus.
The followers of Jesus played their God-given role: Evangelize those who aren’t followers of Jesus.
“You can’t change history.” That’s right.
But can you alter the teaching of Paul? The Christian answer should always be a hard no. “We [followers of Jesus] do not use the weapons of the world.” That’s non-negotiable.
The follower of Jesus must do his or her God-given role. The follower of Jesus must not do the God-given non-Christian state role.
That was then. This is now. How did we get here?
In the 4th century the church compromised. What wasn’t negotiable, what should never have been negotiated, was negotiated. The roles were mixed.
Did you mean to say you “disregarded the commentary”?
Yes. That’s right. No one will learn anything about Vlad from the video.
Jesus and the apostles surely must be the example for followers of Jesus of what it means to be masculine.
They didn’t treat their enemies the way Vlad treated his enemies.
Vlad wasn’t feminized, but neither did he model the masculinity of Jesus and the apostles.
Teaching the followers of Jesus to imitate Vlad is an off the chain response to the issue the speaker in the video is addressing; an horrific overcorrection.
A man killing a human being doesn’t prove that the man is masculine. All it proves is that the man is a killer of human beings.
It doesn’t get any more masculine than Jesus of Nazareth. He killed no one. He taught no follower to kill or to otherwise harm their enemies.
”I am Jesus to my enemies.” If you are, then your enemies have been blessed, no matter how they choose to respond to you. What they do to you - be it good or evil - they have done to Jesus.
It doesn’t get any more masculine than Jesus of Nazareth. He killed no one. He taught no follower to kill or to otherwise harm their enemies.
”I am Jesus to my enemies.” If you are, then your enemies have been blessed, no matter how they choose to respond to you. What they do to you - be it good or evil - they have done to Jesus.
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