God Commands Righteous Violence

[Matthias]

(sorry....from page 7 when I just HAVE to say something)

Let's just "cut to the chase" eh?
These pacifists are:

"IDOL WORSHIPERS"

Before you jump on his bandwagon -



He’s writing, in part, against this man. Believe what you will, but think it over real good.

 

[Jay Ross]

Maybe it is you who sadly deny the parables of the Minas and Talents is about divine justice?

Perhaps/maybe/undeniably, it is you has no understanding of the message in the parables of the Talents and the Minas.

Both parables were told by Jeus, the Parable of the Minas on Jesus' journey from Jericho to Bethany six day before the Passover and the Parable of the Talents two days before His crucifixion.

Jesus foretold us that Satan and the other rebelling heavenly hosts will be judged and kicked out of heaven and that they along with the judged kings of the earth will be imprisoned for many days to await the time of their punishment. Isaiah 24:21-22 describes the events of the Armageddon judgement and that the judged entities, i.e. the heavenly hosts and the kings of the earth will be imprisoned in the Bottomless pit for 1,000 years during the Summer Season of the harvest of Souls.

Luke 14 tells us that the Israelites will attempt to rebuild the Temple, that shortly afterwards, that a King will make war, i.e., judge the kings of the earth and that the nation of Israel will determine if they have the means to overcome the King making battle with the kings of the earth and come to the conclusion that instead of fighting this King, that they should seek His terms of peace.

It is my view that we have already seen the signs and wonders that will draw the kings of the earth towards gathering at Armageddon, some 44 years before they do. Armageddon will result in the Covenant of Peace that God has promised the nation of Israel after He has removed all of the heavenly beasts and hosts from the face of the earth for a season.

We see Jesus being mentioned in Luke 14, but He is not found mentioned in the Luke 19 Parable of the Minas.

Both parables are not about Divine Justice, but about how Satan intends to oppose the establishment of, during the time of those kings, His Everlasting Kingdom on the earth.

Perhaps it is you who needs to take a deeper dive into what these two parables teach instead of the shallow dive that you already have which has led you to the wrong understanding.

Shalom

 

[Lambano]

Jesus is going to destroy his enemies when he returns.

...And those advocating violence contrary to Jesus's own teachings may well be included among them.

 

[Matthias]

Thoughts?

“As long as we keep thinking that peace can be achieved by getting rid of our enemies, we remain trapped in the world of violence and hatred.” - Henri Nouwen

The state can’t afford to think that way; followers of Jesus can’t afford not to.

 

[Wrangler]

...And those advocating violence contrary to Jesus's own teachings may well be included among them.

Jesus taught violence and will model more violence than any human in history; what are you talking about? The absurdity of the pacifist argument is the use the most violent person of all time as the ultimate standard of pacifist ideology,

 

[David Lamb]

Jesus taught violence and will model more violence than any human in history; what are you talking about? The absurdity of the pacifist argument is the use the most violent person of all time as the ultimate standard of pacifist ideology,

That just is not so. Jesus never taught His followers to retaliate with violence. Speaking to Pontius Pilate, He said:

NKJV Jhn 18:36 Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here."

The apostle Peter wrote about Jesus:

NKJV 1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
1Pe 2:22 "WHO COMMITTED NO SIN, NOR WAS DECEIT FOUND IN HIS MOUTH";
1Pe 2:23 who, when He was reviled, did not revile in return; when He suffered, He did not threaten, but committed Himself to Him who judges righteously;

In Acts, we read a lot about the apostles and other Christians being persecuted, and some even killed, but not once are we told that any of them retaliated with violence.

 

[NayborBear]

"My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here."

............YET!
Psalms 110:1
The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
This should show a difference between "servants OF Jesus Christ of Nazareth"
AND?
Servants OF "He who sits ON His throne!"
Right?

Is just that the pacifistic servants of Jesus Christ?
Have NO NEED FOR the Servants of He who SENT Jesus Christ of Nazareth WITH the GOOD NEWS!
EH?

 

[David Lamb]

............YET!
Psalms 110:1
The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
This should show a difference between "servants OF Jesus Christ of Nazareth"
AND?
Servants OF "He who sits ON His throne!"
Right?

Is just that the pacifistic servants of Jesus Christ?
Have NO NEED FOR the Servants of He who SENT Jesus Christ of Nazareth WITH the GOOD NEWS!
EH?

Psalm 110 doesn't mention "servants of Christ" being violent.