God declares Her Blessed!

[Paul Christensen]

1) This is a royal form of address, and greeting! Mary is the queen of heaven, in the line David’s kingdom the mother of the king is always the queen, and Jesus is king, Lk 1:32-33 that makes Mary the queen of heaven and all the angels and saints!

This is a lie. Not what the passage says. The fraudulent cult which worships the Queen of Heaven is actually worshiping a pagan entity. Most probably a demon disguised as a pagan version of Mary.

2) Mary is full of grace! Immaculate! Pure! and Holy!

Another lie. Mary is not described as immaculate in the reference, nor pure and holy. The reference says that she has found grace in the eyes of God.

6) Mary...the grace of salvation lost by Adam!

Another lie. Salvation comes through Christ, not Mary.

7) Lk 1:31 perpetual Virgin ( bear a son singular)

Another lie. Mary had other children. Jesus had brothers and sisters.

8) Mother of our salvation! She consented to our salvation (Jesus)
Lk 1:38

Another pagan lie. Mary is just another person needing salvation like everyone else. She is not divine and Jesus doesn't need her consent to save us.

It is amazing that the god of this world has blinded the minds of people to such an extent that they would believe these lies spouted by a fraudulent, paganised, Mary worshiping cult.

 

[theefaith]

You've exalted her beyond what is warranted in Scripture.

On the contrary it is impossible to exalt her enough, just as the ark of the covenant was the sign of God’s presents so Mary the ark of the new covenant is the sign of God’s presence
Is 7:14 matt 1:23

 

[theefaith]

No, Mary replaces Jesus in the minds of many Catholics. They pray to her hoping for advantage because they are afraid of God thinking He doesn't care.

no evidence for this assertion, Mary is the queen of mercy, all grace and mercy and blessings are thru Mary, just as queen Ester found favor with the king and won half of his kingdom so queen Mary found favor with God and received half his kingdom, Christ retained the king of justice as the just judge Mary the queen of grace and mercy

 

[Paul Christensen]

On the contrary it is impossible to exalt her enough, just as the ark of the covenant was the sign of God’s presents so Mary the ark of the new covenant is the sign of God’s presence
Is 7:14 matt 1:23

It is amazing that people actually believe this rubbish.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

no evidence for this assertion, Mary is the queen of mercy, all grace and mercy and blessings are thru Mary, just as queen Ester found favor with the king and won half of his kingdom so queen Mary found favor with God and received half his kingdom, Christ retained the king of justice as the just judge Mary the queen of grace and mercy

This is the second thread created to promote these heresies. You really need to read your Bible instead of making things up. Grace doesn’t come through Mary. It comes through Jesus Christ.

John 1:17–for the law was given through Moses, grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

 

[theefaith]

It is amazing that people actually believe this rubbish.

scripture is not rubbish!

Lk 1:28 the Lord is with thee!

 

[theefaith]

This is the second thread created to promote these heresies. You really need to read your Bible instead of making things up. Grace doesn’t come through Mary. It comes through Jesus Christ.

John 1:17–for the law was given through Moses, grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

and who did Jesus Christ come thru?

 

[DNB]

On the contrary it is impossible to exalt her enough, just as the ark of the covenant was the sign of God’s presents so Mary the ark of the new covenant is the sign of God’s presence
Is 7:14 matt 1:23

No theefaith, you are employing unbridled hermeneutics to your exegesis. Again, there are barely 5 passages in the entire Bible that refer to Mary, mother of Jesus. And, none of them, on their own, exalt her to the level that you Catholics have.
You have done nothing more but exploit verses that may seem to infer what you want it to say, and have established it as dogma.
The incompetence, imposition and tyranny is axiomatic. This is why historically, so much contention and uprising arose against the Catholic church, levelling charges of abuse, perversion and megalomania - not a benign issue.

 

[DNB]

no evidence for this assertion, Mary is the queen of mercy, all grace and mercy and blessings are thru Mary, just as queen Ester found favor with the king and won half of his kingdom so queen Mary found favor with God and received half his kingdom, Christ retained the king of justice as the just judge Mary the queen of grace and mercy

You are full of blasphemy!
Grace and mercy came only through the works of Christ, granted to us by the Father, the one and only God.
You are off your flippin' rocker, theefaith!

 

[DNB]

It is amazing that people actually believe this rubbish.

Yes, and I wonder if it is due to indoctrination and naiveté, or a perverted disposition?

 

[Paul Christensen]

scripture is not rubbish!

Lk 1:28 the Lord is with thee!

I'm not rubbishing Scripture at all. It is just this worship of Mary is total rubbish. What is being worshiped is a demon presenting itself as the Queen of Heaven. The real Mary is just an ordinary person like all those saved ones whose spirits are waiting in Paradise for the resurrection associated with the second coming of Christ. Mary worship is pagan worship. All the Romanists have done is to take the pagan statue of the Queen of Heaven out of the pagan temples, tarted it up to look like some artist's impression of Mary. I know what Jesus is going to say to the Mary worshipers when they come before Him: "Depart from Me, you workers of iniquity!"

 

[Paul Christensen]

Yes, and I wonder if it is due to indoctrination and naiveté, or a perverted disposition?

It is part of the delusion that God has allowed for those who don't believe Jesus Christ is Lord of all.

 

[DNB]

It is part of the delusion that God has allowed for those who don't believe Jesus Christ is Lord of all.

Probably, in many cases, ...I just might not indict the whole Catholic community of this charge? I do believe that many are devout, and that they somewhat blindly consider such an institution from antiquity, as authoritative?
Either way, like you said, it is bewildering how such apparent manipulation and adulteration of Scripture, has made its way into anyone's convictions, ...especially those who have studied?

 

[Prayer Warrior]

and who did Jesus Christ come thru?

This is not an equal comparison. Jesus was physically born of Mary’s body, but grace and truth are not tangibles that came from Mary’s body. Grace and truth come from God.

Grace is God’s saving and sustaining power. We are saved by God’s grace, which comes through Jesus Christ who IS God. Mary was given grace by God, but this grace did not come FROM Mary. IOW, Mary is not the originator of grace because she is not God.

I’m not sure how to word this any more plainly. GRACE IS FROM GOD!!!

 

[theefaith]

You are full of blasphemy!
Grace and mercy came only through the works of Christ, granted to us by the Father, the one and only God.
You are off your flippin' rocker, theefaith!

And Christ care thru Mary

 

[theefaith]

I'm not rubbishing Scripture at all. It is just this worship of Mary is total rubbish. What is being worshiped is a demon presenting itself as the Queen of Heaven. The real Mary is just an ordinary person like all those saved ones whose spirits are waiting in Paradise for the resurrection associated with the second coming of Christ. Mary worship is pagan worship. All the Romanists have done is to take the pagan statue of the Queen of Heaven out of the pagan temples, tarted it up to look like some artist's impression of Mary. I know what Jesus is going to say to the Mary worshipers when they come before Him: "Depart from Me, you workers of iniquity!"

no one has authority to worship anyone save God alone, and that always involves adoration reparation and offering of sacrifice

In the line of david Lk 1:32:33 The mother of the king is always the king, and Jesus is king of heaven so Mary must be queen of heaven

read the story of queen Ester she is an Old Testament type of Mary

 

[theefaith]

This is not an equal comparison. Jesus was physically born of Mary’s body, but grace and truth are not tangibles that came from Mary’s body. Grace and truth come from God.

Grace is God’s saving and sustaining power. We are saved by God’s grace, which comes through Jesus Christ who IS God. Mary was given grace by God, but this grace did not come FROM Mary. IOW, Mary is not the originator of grace because she is not God.

I’m not sure how to word this any more plainly. GRACE IS FROM GOD!!!

Jesus person is our salvation Lk 2:30 and Mary is His mother
Mother of our salvation

 

[Brakelite]

no evidence for this assertion, Mary is the queen of mercy, all grace and mercy and blessings are thru Mary

No evidence that Mary has replaced Jesus in the minds of Catholics? Your post is all the evidence required.

queen Mary found favor with God and received half his kingdom, Christ retained the king of justice as the just judge

 

[theefaith]

You pays?

 

[DNB]

And Christ care thru Mary

Stubborn as a mule!