God "spiritualizes" EVERYTHING.

[bbyrd009]

Then add yourself to the list of those who don't know a quote from God.

that would be your list, not mine, sorry. And correctly Quoting there does not translate to all of your other beliefs being necessarily from God, regardless of your feelings on the matter. Maybe, might be, but wadr I am detecting some Chosen One drek in here, and I would be happier if I could come in here and agree, but I can't sorry

I was raised on this "I believe in Jesus and Jesus loves me, so you better accept every word I say as Gospel truth" yack, ok. It is your demeanor rather than your words that are telling here imo

 

[CoreIssue]

"God is spirit", "My words are spirit"...is not quoting God?

Why should I even converse with you? You have no actual concept or knowledge of God.

God is spirit.

Jesus Christ is flesh. We are resurrected in the flesh. Our spirits are never dead so cannot be resurrected. They are never in the grave to be brought forth.

The new Jerusalem is physical.

Angels and Demons are spirits.

Our glorified bodies are flesh containing our spirits.

Our earthly bodies are flush containing our spirits.

You are trying to make it one-size-fits-all when it doesn't.

 

[ScottA]

Yes God is a Spirit, but Christ has a literal human body which is also a resurrected glorified body. God is a Spirit, yet He has a literal throne in Heaven, and in the book of Daniel He is shown as the Ancient of Days, bearing a resemblance to the description of Christ in Revelation. Also Heaven is as real and tangible as earth, except that it is in a totally different realm.

That is not biblical.

According to scripture, Jesus had a literal body, which now is his literal church. Which even that does not tell all, and should not be understood as true, but merely the way in which those who do not know literal from the world, would understand. On the contrary, it is only God and His kingdom that are "literal" and this world is a mere creation. And this, you do not perceive, because you apparently don't know better, and therefore should not be making such claims.

As for a "glorified body" of Christ...there is only One of glory, whom is God, and He is spirit. This is the only truth, and biblical. And you do not know of it.

 

[ScottA]

well see the sin here is that you are claiming that you do, right
You understand God, and everyone else does not unless they agree with you?

It is a "sin" to have knowledge of God?

Do you not hear your twisted words?

 

[CoreIssue]

That is not biblical.

According to scripture, Jesus had a literal body, which now is his literal church. Which even that does not tell all, and should not be understood as true, but merely the way in which those who do not know literal from the world, would understand. On the contrary, it is only God and His kingdom that are "literal" and this world is a mere creation. And this, you do not perceive, because you apparently don't know better, and therefore should not be making such claims.

As for a "glorified body" of Christ...there is only One of glory, whom is God, and He is spirit. This the only truth, and biblical. And you do not know of it.

 

[bbyrd009]

It is a "sin" to have knowledge of God?

Do you not hear your twisted words?

He who says he knows, does not

Let the blind lead

He alone is Immortal, and dwells in unapproachable light

So imo knowledge of God is great, ok, but that is not what we are witnessing here

 

[ScottA]

that would be your list, not mine, sorry. And correctly Quoting there does not translate to all of your other beliefs being necessarily from God, regardless of your feelings on the matter. Maybe, might be, but wadr I am detecting some Chosen One drek in here, and I would be happier if I could come in here and agree, but I can't sorry

I was raised on this "I believe in Jesus and Jesus loves me, so you better accept every word I say as Gospel truth" yack, ok. It is your demeanor rather than your words that are telling here imo

I have just stated the core of all that is God, and have been faithful to what is small, and give what is greater. And this bothers you. No, we are not talking about my feelings...but yours.

 

[ScottA]

God is spirit.

Jesus Christ is flesh. We are resurrected in the flesh. Our spirits are never dead so cannot be resurrected. They are never in the grave to be brought forth.

The new Jerusalem is physical.

Angels and Demons are spirits.

Our glorified bodies are flesh containing our spirits.

Our earthly bodies are flush containing our spirits.

You are trying to make it one-size-fits-all when it doesn't.

Your basic premise is askew, thus none of that is biblical, but the teachings of men.

 

[CoreIssue]

It is a "sin" to have knowledge of God?

Do you not hear your twisted words?

It is not a sin to have knowledge. I have years more than you do you got me beat on ego.

By the way, you have far less knowledge than you think you do.

 

[bbyrd009]

I have just stated the core of all that is God, and have been faithful to what is small, and give what is greater. And this bothers you. No, we are not talking about my feelings...but yours.

It doesn't bother me at all Scott, and I have no objections if you want to imagine that you are above reproach either ok. Best of luck to you

fwiw I am not interested in a God that you could state the core of, although I'm sure that maybe seems weird or something. But wadr that just assures me that you are deceived too, ok, same as me

 

[CoreIssue]

Your basic premise is askew, thus none of that is biblical, but the teachings of men.

What denomination are you???

 

[bbyrd009]

personally I suggest not believing a single word I say, at least until you have verified it for yourself!

 

[bbyrd009]

What denomination are you???
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he is a closet nihilist, like most believers I guess, more or less an "existential nihilist" prolly

since this is not so easy to see, note who has taken God's place there
Existential nihilism | Wikiwand

but as we can see, as soon as any lack of worship is perceived, and particularly if any relevant Scripture is invoked, he's out like a light, prolly be tomorrow now

 

[CoreIssue]

he is a closet nihilist, like most believers I guess, more or less an "existential nihilist" prolly

since this is not so easy to see, note who has taken God's place there
Existential nihilism | Wikiwand

 

[bbyrd009]

Jesus Christ is flesh. We are resurrected in the flesh. Our spirits are never dead so cannot be resurrected. They are never in the grave to be brought forth

hmm, so you say

let the dead bury the dead
makes diff implications tho imo
what dies at baptism do you think? In the ritual, I mean?
And since "nothing" is prolly the best answer for that, sorry, I mean "what is supposed to die?"

 

[Enoch111]

That is not biblical.

You must have a Bible which is different from all other Bibles. But here is what is revealed in the Bible which Christians have had for over 400 years:

DANIEL 7
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened...
13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

REVELATION 1
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

 

[CoreIssue]

hmm, so you say

let the dead bury the dead
makes diff implications tho imo
what dies at baptism do you think? In the ritual, I mean?
And since "nothing" is prolly the best answer for that, sorry, I mean "what is supposed to die?"

The sin nature in our spirit.

Still have the flesh nature.

 

[bbyrd009]

The sin nature in our spirit.

Still have the flesh nature.

Ah, I don't perceive any diff in those two, how do you separate them?

 

[ScottA]

He who says he knows, does not

Let the blind lead

He alone is Immortal, and dwells in unapproachable light

So imo knowledge of God is great, ok, but that is not what we are witnessing here

Obviously, it is you who does not know, for Christ said, "Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness."

Ditto.

 

[ScottA]

It is not a sin to have knowledge. I have years more than you do you got me beat on ego.

By the way, you have far less knowledge than you think you do.View attachment 5644

How would you know? "You have taken away the key of knowledge."