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It was dead the moment I shut it down with pure logic and scripture.pom2014 said:I think the topic is dead.
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It was dead the moment I shut it down with pure logic and scripture.pom2014 said:I think the topic is dead.
So you want me to trust Tucker Carlson over the opinions of the majority of climate scientists?Foreigner said:Again, Greenland is going to be just fine...
"Right now, Greenland and the Poles are melting like they have not melted in thousands of years - much longer than when the Roman Empire existed." - Aspen
Ummmm, no....
http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/05/heres-why-global-warming-alarmists-dont-talk-about-greenland/
From the article:
"Danish Meteorological Institute data shows Greenland is accumulating more ice than normal, based on the mean accumulation from 1990 to 2013."
"Northeast Greenland saw its coldest May on record since measurements started back in 1949, and the island as a whole is colder than normal."
"Nuuk, the capital of Greenland, has also seen its coldest year on record, according to science blogger Steven Goddard."
"Greenland is also seeing much less ice melt than normal, according to the Danish Meteorological Institute. "
"Hurricanes have increased in strength and there are increased droughts in California and Oregon and Texas is underwater. Only time will tell is this is related." - Aspen
- We are currently seeing RECORD FEW numbers of hurricanes. Just the opposite of what the Global Warming zealots guaranteed was going to happen.
- Some are stronger, but not at record strength, meaning we have seen them at that strength before.
- California has droughts on a cyclical basis going back millennia. This is not a first or the worst.
- Oregon and Texas have seen rains like this before, as well. Big stretch to say it is due to 'climate change' this particular time.
But those two sentences of yours are also a contradiction.
The first sentence strongly implies that is due to 'Global Warming.' Your second sentence say we will have to wait and see.
Making claims without waiting for proof. Isn't that a calling card of a 'zealot?'
I just heard that some scientists are claiming that, at the rate it's going now; in ten years no one will be able to get around the tip of south America. They also say that sailing around the north pole will be accessible. Sounds like the snow is just migrating from one side of the planet to the other.brakelite said:Environmentalists and governments are worried about the increasing ice in the seas around the antarctic. Access to the mainland is proving more difficult, and the usual ships they have been using are proving inadequate to break the ice. Work that out.
This is very insightful in so many ways. What this whole climate change issue is really about is just a distraction from the real pollution. CO2 is a greenhouse gas that is as necessary to life as H2O. Huge corporations can afford to retool or spend the money required to retrofit their operations to capture CO2 emissions, while their underfinanced competitors can't afford these prohibitively high expenses. Thus the competition is eliminated, while the real problem goes effectively unnoticed resulting in an even higher ROI for the oligarchs in control. Not that long ago, the founder of Greenpeace resigned in disgust revealing that all environmental organizations have been taken over by the corporate elite.ChristianJuggarnaut said:Bottom line:
Climate changes. It has done so for approximately 6,000 years (LOL, see what I did there).
We can't control it. We have ruined things here in many ways, but climate isn't one of them per se.
I live in the "Sunshine State" aka Florida, in Citrus county. Citrus county hasn't had commercial oranges growing here in almost thirty years. Why? Too cold. I was thinking about going down to Key West, but it was down in the lower 60's during the middle of the day; too cold for me. It doesn't warm up until you get down to Puerto Rico or the Cayman Islands; might as well just go all the way down to the equator just to be on the safe side.Josho said:Greenland is melting, and Australia is getting colder, I have never seen so many days under 12c in Melbourne in my life, i am only 19 tho haha, and have only lived in Victoria for 12 years, so the past 11 years of living in Victoria, must have been pretty warm years. Snowstorms in New South Wales also seem to be happening more often, low level snow seems to be a common thing this Winter in South-Eastern Australia, it rarely snows in Queensland, but it snowed 2 years ago there, and it snowed a few weeks ago in the Sunshine State again. I guess this is how the weather in Australia used to be 40 - 50 years ago?
Some startling evidence has been released showing that the entire solar system is warming up. Lo and behold, the alarmists are claiming that each and every planet that is warming up is for completely different reasons which rules out that the solar system is just simply warming up for the same reason. How fortunate that the earth's rising temps can be conclusively attributed to us, and that we're not being blamed for destroying the rest of the solar system, not to mention the entire galaxy.aspen said:Foreigner
You have failed to address the ice core evidence from Greenland. Glaciers are melting that have existed for thousands of years.
Al Gore may believe he is a scientist and the creator of the Internet, but he is neither.
Predicting exactly how the Earth is going to respond to warmer temperatures is a guessing game. All we can do is watch what is happening now.
Right now, Greenland and the Poles are melting like they have not melted in thousands of years - much longer than when the Roman Empire existed.
Hurricanes have increased in strength and there are increased droughts in California and Oregon and Texas is underwater. Only time will tell is this is related.
I am not a conspiracy theorist - when people were stock pilling for Y2K, I was just living my life.
Link to global warming and human activity:
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/human-contribution-to-gw-faq.html#.VWuOnyyCOK0
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It is an undisputed fact that CO2 levels are currently at around 400 ppm. It is also an undisputed fact that at 150 ppm all life on this planet becomes extinct. CO2 levels are dangerously low. This is a disputed fact for some unknown reason. How low do we really need to get CO2 levels before we stop this insanity? Some have pointed out that the earth is self regulating. Perhaps the earth needed to raise CO2 levels so humanity came along and saved the day with the industrial revolution. Many scientists have concluded that if it weren't for the industrial revolution all life would have become extinct within 50k years; not that long in the lifespan of the earth.aspen said:Antarctic ice cores show us that the concentration of CO2 was stable over the last millennium until the early 19th century. It then started to rise, and its concentration is now nearly 40% higher than it was before the industrial revolution (see Fig. 2 overleaf). Other measurements (e.g. isotopic data) confirm that the increase must be due to emissions of CO2 from fossil fuel usage and deforestation. Measurements from older ice cores (discussed below) confirm that both the magnitude and rate of the recent increase are almost certainly unprecedented over the last 800,000 years. The fastest large natural increase measured in older ice cores is around 20ppmv (parts per million by volume) in 1,000 years (a rate seen during Earth’s emergence from the last ice age around 12,000 years ago). CO2 concentration increased by the same amount, 20ppmv, in the last 10 years! Methane (CH4), another important greenhouse gas, also shows a huge and unprecedented increase in concentration over the last two centuries. Its concentration is now much more than double its pre-industrial level. This is mainly due to the increase in emissions from sources such as rice fields, ruminant animals and landfills, that comes on top of natural emissions from wetlands and other sources.