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  1. charity

    charity Well-Known Member

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    * To whom did God give the law? - To the children of Israel

    'Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth -
    .. the adoption,
    …. and the glory,
    …… and the covenants,
    …….. and the giving of the law,
    ………. and the service of God,
    ………… and the promises;
    Whose are the fathers,
    and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came,
    Who is over all, God blessed for ever.
    Amen.'

    (Romans 9:4-5)

    * This was the Gentile’s state, outside of Christ:-

    Wherefore remember,
    .. that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh,
    …. who are called Uncircumcision
    …… by that which is called the Circumcision
    …….. in the flesh made by hands;
    That at that time ye were without Christ,
    .. being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel,
    …. and strangers from the covenants of promise,
    …… having no hope, and without God in the world:’

    (Ephesians 2:11-12)

    In Christ Jesus
    Chris
     
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  2. Anthony D'Arienzo

    Anthony D'Arienzo Active Member

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    yes, you are welcome. There is much more to say, but there were already several verses to consider from The Baptist Catechism, enjoy.
     
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    Anthony D'Arienzo Active Member

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    Charity, Keep in mind that Israel as a nation was singled out to have the law of God. Deut 4;
    Your eyes have seen what the Lord did because of Baalpeor: for all the men that followed Baalpeor, the Lord thy God hath destroyed them from among you.

    4 But ye that did cleave unto the Lord your God are alive every one of you this day.

    5 Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the Lordmy God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it.

    6 Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.

    7 For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the Lord our God is in all things that we call upon him for?

    8 And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?

    9 Only take heed to thyself, and keep thy soul diligently, lest thou forget the things which thine eyes have seen, and lest they depart from thy heart all the days of thy life: but teach them thy sons, and thy sons' sons;

    10 Specially the day that thou stoodest before the Lord thy God in Horeb, when the Lord said unto me, Gather me the people together, and I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may teach their children.

    11 And ye came near and stood under the mountain; and the mountain burned with fire unto the midst of heaven, with darkness, clouds, and thick darkness.

    12 And the Lord spake unto you out of the midst of the fire: ye heard the voice of the words, but saw no similitude; only ye heard a voice.

    13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

    they failed but now the church is called to that task.

    That does not mean that those who lived before them had no law, or were lawless.
    heathen nations today will answer to the ten commandments also and be responsible to keep them perfectly.
    They cannot of course, so that is why missionaries Go into all the world. we are to go also where we are.
     
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    Danube Active Member

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    ADAMS seed is still walking the earth.
    Scattered amongst ALL nations (geographical areas defined by boundary)

    1 john 3, 9
    No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.

    "And the Lord God formed MAN of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and MAN became a living soul.




    Did Paul get away with murder?


    What is the moral law and who gave it?
    Does this moral law contradict the commandments?
     
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    soul man Well-Known Member

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    Gen 3:15 the two seeds, what say you about experience here, I don't see it, I see seeds not some monkey see monkey do. Curious what you are saying?
     
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    Dave L Well-Known Member

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    I use moral law referring to the Ten Commandments.
     
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    Danube Active Member

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    Why not call it what it is to be clear you refer to God' Commandments?
     
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    Dave L Well-Known Member

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    There are several aspects of the Ten Commandments. The civil law, the ceremonial law and the moral law. Christ abolished all on the cross replacing it with the New Covenant. But we still use the moral law for instruction and commentary.
     
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    Danube Active Member

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    Love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as you love yourself.
    If you keep these two laws all the others hang on them, because if you truly love God and your neighbor, brother & kinsman redeemer etc you will not be wanting to murder him, have sex with his wife, accuse her of trapping you, stealing all his belongings etc etc

    Christ never abolished a single law, he clearly tells you that: Matthew 5:17
    The Teacher leads by his example.
    So what makes you believe he abolished the law on the cross?

    Was it Paul by any chance?
     
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    Dave L Well-Known Member

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    The Two Great Commandments are for believers. The Ten are a street level version of the Two designed for unbelievers. They forced them to act like they loved God and people under threat of death. And promised temporal rewards for obedience.

    The Two Great Commandments are eternal but the New Covenant replaced the Ten.
     
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    The moral law is the ten commandments which are in effect over all men.
    The ceremonial and judicial laws, ie, religious commands, governmental laws were given to Israel in the ot.theocracy.
    In the nt. All ten commandments are still in effect under Jesus, not Moses.
     
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    All men sinned and died in Adam.rom3:23
    Since the fall all are conceived dead in sin psalm51:5.
    So now every person sins everyday.
     
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    Danube Active Member

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    Yes!:)
     
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    This is once again false. Ten commandments were on stone, not two which were the summary of the ten.
     
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    no they are not, you live by them you die by them, it is grace by faith not by any laws men try to keep. satan loves the foolish.

    Joh 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
    Joh 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

    it overrides everything
     
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    charity Well-Known Member

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    Hello @Anthony D'Arienzo,

    With respect the 'Church' is not called to take over where Israel failed.

    Within the love of Christ our Saviour, Lord and Head.
    Chris
     
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    The Ten hung from the Two. So the Two preceded the Ten.
     
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    soul man Well-Known Member

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    That not what you said, you said "sin by experience." Can you not see Adam recieved something in the fall, if so what do you suppose that to be?
     
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    Wadr I have yet to encounter a True Believer who strongly believes in the possibility of "seven worse spirits" nor "twice the sons of hell"
     
  20. Anthony D'Arienzo

    Anthony D'Arienzo Active Member

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    You are quite mistaken but you can hold all the error you want.
    We are saved by law keeping. No, not our law keeping...but the perfect law keeping of the Lord Jesus Christ.
    Isa42:21 read and learn.
    You mention love...excellent..what did Paul tell us
    In Rome 13:8-10....LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.....He does not say love ignores the law of God.
    The 10 commandments are in the heart of a biblical Christian.hebrews8
     
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