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● Matt 8:11-12 . . I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and
west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the
kingdom of heaven. But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into
outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

"children of the kingdom" is very likely Jacob's posterity; the Jews. Well; for
sure, not all of his people will be permitted citizenship in the kingdom
predicted in the Old Testament. According to Ezek 20:33-38 a number of
them will be culled from the herd and sent elsewhere.

Outer darkness is again spoken of in Matt 22:13 and Matt 25:30

It appears, from comparison of the available data, that "outer darkness" isn't
a location, rather, a state of mental anguish characterized by the deepest
possible feelings of grief associated with loss.

It's akin to the day that God announced to Moses' people they were going to
have to stay in that awful Sinai outback until they were dead. They missed
their opportunity to enter the land of milk and honey and there was no way
to regain it.

The people must've been pretty upset over that; no doubt they had all been
joyfully looking forward to a new life over there; and there was no use in
praying about it because God had made up His mind.

I've only experienced deep personal grief associated with irreversible loss
but one time; that was when my No.1 nephew passed away suddenly of
natural causes at the age of 51. I had held him in my arms upon returning
home from three years in the Army when he was only a couple of weeks old.

News of his passing has thus far been the only time in my 79 years that I
actually clenched my teeth, sobbing out of control, and choking, while
clinging to a handrail in the front room to keep from losing my balance and
falling to the floor. Matt 8:11-12 is likely speaking of a similar depth of
grief, or possibly worse.

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The criminal records associated with the great white throne event depicted
at Rev 20:11-15 will likely be used to not only to condemn people's actions,
but also to prove that the people themselves are not the caliber of folk with
whom God prefers to associate.

For example: God isn't comfortable with dishonesty. So if the records show
that someone is capable of deception, then they will be barred from heaven.

● Ps 15:1-3 . . Lord, who may dwell in your sanctuary? Who may live on
your holy hill? He who speaks the truth from his heart and has no slander on
his tongue, who does his neighbor no wrong and casts no slur on his
fellowman. He who does these things will never be shaken.

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PLAINTIFF: Your creator knew ahead of time, by means of precognition, that
the human life he was about to create would all have to die because of just
one man's sin, plus:

1» The human life he was about to create would become so bad that he
would have to exterminate most of it in a global deluge,

2» The human life he was about to create would be suffering with diseases,
poverty, wars, famines, and oppression,

3» And much of the human life that he was about to create would end up in
Hell.

4» To top it off: he has the chutzpa to advertise himself as a god of love,
concern, compassion, and sympathy when in reality he's cruel, fiendish, and
criminally insane.

REPLY: So in your honest opinion the Bible's God is a merciless tyrannical
despot far more dangerous than Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Benito Mussolini,
Idi Amin, Mao Tse-tung, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Robert Mugabe, Xi
Jinping, and Kim Jong Un?

PLAINTIFF: Yes!

REPLY: And yet you aren't afraid of such an one?

PLAINTIFF: What's to fear? The God in your Bible doesn't exist: he's a
fantasy; along with the likes of Mickey Mouse, Peter Pan, and Pikachu.

REPLY: Well then; I suggest utilizing whatever amount of time you have
remaining to begin preparing yourself for the worst. If things should work
out for the better, then great; but if not then at least you won't be taken by
surprise.

● Prov 22:3 . . A sensible person foresees the danger ahead and takes
precautions; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the
consequences.

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FAQ: What if I was born dishonest?

REPLY: You mean like Ps 58:3, which says:

"The wicked are estranged from the womb; these who speak lies go astray
from birth."

Well; that's pretty serious.

● Rev 21:8 . . . All liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and
brimstone, which is the second death.

FAQ: But I'm not a degenerate liar. I'm basically honest and lie only on
occasion.

REPLY: No, you are basically dishonest-- the meanwhile managing your
natural impulses; keeping their control over you to a minimum.

But let's face it: you of all people don't need a rule book, instead; you need
a miracle to liberate you from yourself so you don't end up on the wrong
side of things. In other words: you need an overhaul from top to bottom and
inside and out, i.e. a full and complete renovation to get rid of that lying
streak you were born with.

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Insensitive folk who come from the womb unable to feel compassion, are in
very grave danger of the sum of all fears.

● Matt 5:7 . . Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.

● Jas 2:13 . . For judgment will be merciless to one who has shown no
mercy.

As an experiment, keep an ear attuned for people who respond to the news
of someone's misfortune by saying "It could've been worse." That's a
sympathy-challenged person.

NOTE: There are a number instructional web sites offering lists of helpful
do's and don'ts to assist sympathy-challenged people to at least respond
properly to others' misfortunes.

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God cautioned Cain.

● Gen 4:7 . . If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do
not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you,
but you must master it.

"to have you" indicates complete control over one's life so that Cain wouldn't
just be slipping into sin now and then, rather; sin would become his lifestyle
should he become independent enough to allow ignoring God to become a
habit.

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● Rev 20:13 . . I saw the dead, and they were judged, every one of them

That verse says that "every one" of them were judged. Well; I don't know
precisely how many that will eventually number, but let's say that it's
100,000.

If each of these 100,000 cases were to take an hour to complete, we'd be
looking at roughly 4,167 calendar days, i.e. 11½ years-- that's if the judging
by a solo judge goes around the clock 24/7/365.

According to Daniel 7:13-14, John 5:22-3, and Acts 17:31, Messiah has
been designated to preside at the event. However, there's reason to suggest
that he won't be handling every case himself.

● 1Cor 6:2-3 . . Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if
the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest
law courts? Do you not know that we shall judge angels? (cf. Matt 12:28)

Moses was assisted in his judicial duties by a select group of Jewish men.
(Ex 18:17-26) It's possible that certain among Messiah's followers will be
recruited to serve as judges with him in the same manner, which will
expedite his case load considerably.

There's a few points related to that scene worth special mention.

1» According to Jude 1:14-15 the dead will be given a fair trial.

2» According to Matt 12:36, every word that the dead have spoken will be
used as evidence both against them and/or for them; not just their serious
words, but also their careless words.

3» The scene doesn't depict one future out of a variety of possible futures;
no, it depicts the actual future.
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● 1Kings 22:18-23 . . I saw the Lord God sitting on His throne, and all the
host of heaven standing by Him on His right and on His left. And Jehovah
said: Who will entice Ahab to go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead? And one said
this while another said that.

. . .Then a spirit came forward and stood before The Lord and said: I will
entice him. And The Lord said to him: How? And he said: I will go out and be
a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. Then He said: You are to
entice him and also prevail. Go and do so. Now therefore, behold, The Lord
has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; and
Jehovah has proclaimed disaster against you.

Now that's scary. Can you just imagine the horror of being targeted like that
and not aware of it! (cf. 2Thess 2:8-12)

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Canadian folk singer Gordon Lightfoot released a sentimental song back in
1975 that speaks volumes about sympathy. Its lyrics are very touching.
Here's a few that I feel especially appropriate when talking about things like
sickness, death, and the hereafter.

Rainy day people always seem to know when it's time to call.
Rainy day people don't talk, they just listen till they've heard it all.
Rainy day lovers don't lie when they tell 'ya they've been down like you.
Rainy day people don't mind if you're cryin' a tear or two.

I sometimes wonder how much sympathy one can expect in the fiery
netherworld. I mean; sure they'll understand how we might feel about the
unfortunate circumstances in life that led us down there, but once you're
there, everyone's pretty much in the same boat and the others are all
longing for sympathy too.

In point of fact, I'd not be surprised if the competition for sympathy down
there is on the level of dog eat dog; and likely a fair number of sympathy
hoarders demanding total market share of it. I can just hear their feigned
indignity; like this:

"Oh, stop whining already! Don't be such a baby. I deserve a lot more pity
than you. I've been down here for two millennia and you've only been down
here for a decade. What've you got to cry about? You should be grateful that
your time down here is shorter than mine."

I'd imagine that after a few years in that place the only sympathy that
people can feel after a while is sympathy for themselves because nobody is
getting out down there; they're all lifers so it's not unlikely that the only
humanity that inmates pay forward in that place is misery.

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Well...we'd better get preaching and pray the Holy Spirit moves powerfully, huh?!

No. Unbiblical actually.
No one is yet in either Heaven or Hell.
The hubris of the OP, which is spammed throughout many Christian boards by its generator,is shameful and astonishingly offensive to the Gospel..

Yes, your post is over a decade old. Which being the second post here and the first reply was chosen for response, and to show just how long this offense has been at work.

Shameful.

 

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● Matt 7:13-14 . . Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and
broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But
small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find
it.

● Matt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.

Few and Many are relative quantities regardless of their amounts.

For example; no matter how many people are represented by the great
crowd depicted at Rev 7:9-10, their number will be less than the number of
folk represented by the dead depicted at Rev 20:11-15.

In other words: the number of people ultimately saved will be less than
those ultimately lost no matter how big or little their respective numbers
turn out to be.

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● 1Cor 1:26 . . Remember, dear brothers and sisters, that few of you were
wise in the world's eyes, or powerful, or wealthy when God called you.

Faith in Christ isn't an achievement like a Nobel prize in chemistry nor as if
one ran for public office or climbed a corporate ladder. None of us would be
an integral member of Christ's body were it not for God's incredible IQ and
His access to a remarkable variety of supernatural resources.

● 1Cor 1:30 . . God alone made it possible for you to be in Christ Jesus. For
our benefit God made Christ to be wisdom itself; he is the one who made us
acceptable to God. He made us pure and holy, and he gave himself to
purchase our freedom.

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[Patrick1966]

How many torture techniques does Jesus use to inflict maximum pain and suffering upon people in Hell?

 

[Jack]

How many torture techniques does Jesus use to inflict maximum pain and suffering upon people in Hell?

Read the Bible Patrick. Find out for yourself. Stop taking the words of Satan's messengers. Jesus said Hell is real whether you like it or not. Stop mocking Jesus!

 

[ButterflyJones]

How many torture techniques does Jesus use to inflict maximum pain and suffering upon people in Hell?

None. No one is in Hell.
Beware those who presume to corrupt scripture so to tally the souls of the dead as ones damned by that false posters tally.

This SPAM appears on most all busy Christian discussion boards. It mocks scripture and is false from beginning to end.

And it is easy to realize this. Read the Book of Revelation. It tells you what has already been forewarned of in the rest of the scripture. No one is yet condemned to Hell.

Satan can appear as a messenger of light. And quote scripture.

This thread is falsehood. On every forum where it appears, it mocks God by playing god.

 

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Education and/or a high IQ have their uses; but are insufficient when it
comes to spiritual matters. In point of fact, too many smarts can actually be
an impediment. Take for example Carl Sagan. Had his knowledge and his IQ
been a spiritual advantage, then Carl would've stood on the side of
intelligent design instead of opposing it.

It's tragic that Carl went to his grave with his curiosity and so many
scientific questions about the cosmos unanswered, and to top it off, a day is
coming when even Carl's pale blue dot will no longer be available for study.

"For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall
not be remembered, nor come into mind." (Isa 65:17)

"And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first
earth were passed away." (Rev 21:1)

Can you imagine how delighted Carl would've been to explore Heaven's
libraries where everything to know that can be known about the cosmos is
stored? But alas, Carl will never find out because he was at best an agnostic,
at worst an atheist.

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● 2Cor 5:11 . . Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men;

The Greek word translated "knowing" means to know firsthand, viz: by
experience rather than by education and/or instruction.

In other words: there were incidents at various times in the lives of Paul and
his contemporaries when God frightened them, i.e. scared 'em out of their
wits.

I have been challenged on occasion as to how I know for sure that my
religion is true. Well; there's nothing like a good old fashioned close
encounter of a third kind to convince even the most resistant skeptics; and
Paul's history attests that his was a really stubborn case.

Of course if any of us were to claim to "know" the terror of the Lord, we'd be
singled out as kooks and crackpots; but for some of us, fear is the only
persuasion that works.

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So it all boils down to how people "see". In other words: one man interprets
the Bible this way; and another man interprets the Bible that way.
Meanwhile; it's possible that both men need glasses and don't know it.

Cliff
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Did you know...

The KJV incorrectly translates the word "sheol" as hell, 32 times.
The NKJV is slightly better, translating "sheol" as hell only 19 times.
The NIV correctly translates the word as grave, death or depths.

The KJV incorrectly translates the word "hades" as hell, 10 times
The NKJV and NIV both correctly translate the word as hades.

The only word both translations (KJV and NIV) agree on, is the word Gehenna, which appears 12 times in the gospels and is translated as hell by both.

Now, why would the King James translators be so eager to use the word hell?

 

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Rev 16:17-18 predicts a global earthquake so powerful on the Richter scale
that cities all over the world will collapse at once.

Something like 2,829 lost their lives when the World Trade Center was
demolished by a terrorist attack in 2001. Well that was only a few acres of
New York City. Just imagine the body count when all of Manhattan comes
down at once. along with other major cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco,
Mexico City, Paris, Moscow, Beijing, Tokyo, et al. The carnage will be beyond
belief; and a great many of the dead will be infants and underage children.

The Bible says that we should consider not only God's benevolence, but also
His severity. We're dealing with a someone far more terrifying than even the
tyrants of North Korea, Communist China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and
the awful regimes in Africa.

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Years ago it wasn't unusual to be called a religious fanatic for believing the
Genesis account of the creation of Man. Well; recently somebody online
called me an ignorant bigot because I stand by the Bible's physical gender
designations and refuse to accept the new political designations, e.g.
transgender and non binary

Do they seriously think that the One who intelligently designed the cosmos--
all of its forms of life, matter, and energy --won't have the last word on their
gender identity?

● Ps 2:1-5 . . Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain
thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel
together, against The Lord, and against His anointed, saying: Let us break
their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in
the heavens shall laugh: The Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall He
speak unto them in His wrath, and vex them in His sore displeasure.

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