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Believer in Christ

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Hi, just yesterday my brother repented and was saved by christ, isn't that great? But I'm not sures how to teach him to follow god's word, because he acts like nothing happened. Also, every now and then he would have a outburst of horrible rage, before he got saved. Is it possible that he had a devil inside him?
 

Christina

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You might start by just having him read a few chapters of scripture each day (or whatever he has time for then have a discussion about what he has read answering his questions ect. You might have him start in Gen. its fairly easy and gives a good foundation then you might move to matthew,Mark,Luke which are all the same ministery time of Christ but reading it three differnt ways might set it in his mind the rage I dont know but Christ gives you power over evil spirits just order them away from you(or him) in the name of Jesus Christ
 

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Good word Kriss,also remember you are light to him let him watch you and your walk, invite him to go with you to church, small groups and other activities. Continue to pray for him that God will give him a hunger for his word and let him know how exciting it is to see God moving in his life.
 

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Believer in Christthat is music to my ears, God still hasn't given me the pleasure of helping himconvert someone but I'm glad youve managed to give the gift of life for your brother.now there is an idea there very popular amongst christians out there. This idea is that once you accept christ everything becomes easier.Well I hate to tell it to you but they are dead wrong. The christian road is the hardest road you can take. It is worth it because of the award, but it is hard. this is for two reasonsone- We Christians are held to a much higher standards than normal people to God. for example in the sermon of the mount ( I posted all of it, not all of it apply's but in my opinon it is possible the 2 best chapters in the bible so I posted it all)The Beatitudes1And seeing the multitudes, He went up on a mountain, and when He was seated His disciples came to Him. 2Then He opened His mouth and taught them, saying: 3"Blessed are the poor in spirit, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4Blessed are those who mourn, For they shall be comforted. 5Blessed are the meek, For they shall inherit the earth. 6Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, For they shall be filled. 7Blessed are the merciful, For they shall obtain mercy. 8Blessed are the pure in heart, For they shall see God. 9Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God. 10Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11"Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.Believers Are Salt and Light 13 "You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its flavor, how shall it be seasoned? It is then good for nothing but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot by men. 14"You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. 15Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven. Christ Fulfills the Law 17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. Murder Begins in the Heart 21 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, "You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.' 22But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, "Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, "You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire. 23Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. 25Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. 26Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there till you have paid the last penny. Adultery in the Heart 27 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, "You shall not commit adultery.' 28But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. Marriage Is Sacred and Binding 31 "Furthermore it has been said, "Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.' 32But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery. Jesus Forbids Oaths 33 "Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, "You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord.' 34But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is God's throne; 35nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. 37But let your "Yes' be "Yes,' and your "No,' "No.' For whatever is more than these is from the evil one. Go the Second Mile 38 "You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' 39But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. 41And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. 42Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away. Love Your Enemies 43 "You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? 48Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.Matthew 6Do Good to Please God1"Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them. Otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven. 2Therefore, when you do a charitable deed, do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory from men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 3But when you do a charitable deed, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4that your charitable deed may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will Himself reward you openly. The Model Prayer5"And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 6But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly. 7And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words. 8"Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him. 9In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. 10Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven. 11Give us this day our daily bread. 12And forgive us our debts, As we forgive our debtors. 13And do not lead us into temptation, But deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen. 14"For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Fasting to Be Seen Only by God 16 "Moreover, when you fast, do not be like the hypocrites, with a sad countenance. For they disfigure their faces that they may appear to men to be fasting. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 17But you, when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face, 18so that you do not appear to men to be fasting, but to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly. Lay Up Treasures in Heaven 19 "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; 20but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. The Lamp of the Body 22 "The lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light. 23But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness! You Cannot Serve God and Riches 24 "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. Do Not Worry 25 "Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? 26Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature? 28"So why do you worry about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin; 29and yet I say to you that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31"Therefore do not worry, saying, "What shall we eat?' or "What shall we drink?' or "What shall we wear?' 32For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 33But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. 34Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.Matthew 7Do Not Judge 1 "Judge not, that you be not judged. 2For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. 6"Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces. Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking 7 "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 9Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him! 12Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets. The Narrow Way 13 "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. You Will Know Them by Their Fruits 15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Therefore by their fruits you will know them. I Never Knew You 21 "Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me in that day, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' 23And then I will declare to them, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!' Build on the Rock 24 "Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock. 26"But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall." 28And so it was, when Jesus had ended these sayings, that the people were astonished at His teaching, 29for He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.Now no human being could live up to these standards, but these are the standards we are being held to. Thankfully we have a god who forgives are failure to hold these laws and judges the heart instead of our actions.2. spiritually There is a story of a man in the seminary who runs up to his proffesor and says " alleluia Satan is no longer tempting me." and instead of being relieved the proffesor got very worryed and said " mathew this is the worst thing which could happen." why, because Satan wants us to be damned and when we become saved he will do anything to get us back. Indeed you will be tempted like never before. Paul calls the christian life a race, and races are fun fun until you hit the 20th mile, and then it almost becomes torture. well our race goes on for years, We have to keep our eyes on our salvation.Thankfully Jesus says " come to me For my yoke is easy and my burden is light" He is there to help us and when we are going to fall he will take over.This is the christian life this is what your brother has sighned up for, what you sighned up for and what I have sighned up for. I myself have been a supposed christian for all my life, I( according to my religous teachers) have had so called incredible insight since 5th grade ( I'm not bragging just giving you a picture.) spiritually I was the perfect child, I didn't do much wrong, didn't do any major sin. That is until I really accepted christ. When I told christ I would follow him everything changed. God told me to be chaste for life, and therefore Satan has attacked me sexually in almost everyway possible Ive been through addictions of pornography, self abuse ect. ect." I have fallen so many times I can't keep count. Indeed I can't live up to the sermon of the mount I can't even live up to my standards. But I am finally living my life for Christ. I am better off than when I wasn't neck deep in all this trash. For now I know I am saved.Christianity is hard. We are made into new creations, yes. But our old creations don't disapear. Indeed it is a war, and we must hel eachother fight it, just like Jesus helps us.So in other words, help your brother things will get hard, things may already be getting harder, he may have the same violent explosions, maybe more of them,for he will be tempted more than before, Sooner he will make progress, just like soon I'll make progress, for God says he will change our hearts we just have to let him. pray for me as I will be praying for you and your brother Ryan Fitz
 

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Hi BelieverinChrist,Does he have a Bible? If not, buy him one immediately. I prefer the ESV but the NIV is also a good translation, easy to read.Direct him to the Book of John and then continue with Matthew, Mark, and Luke, and the rest of the New Testament, especially the Book of Romans.waynemlj
 

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Why does people always recommend a perverted version (ie The one that attacks Christ) of the bible? Do you guys even know there is a differencre in them?JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
 

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Why does people always recommend a perverted version (ie The one that attacks Christ) of the bible? Do you guys even know there is a differencre in them?JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
Yeah I competley agree Jagnot only does the NIV and the ESVproclaim Jesus is lordbut alsotells of how he became manhow he suffered for our sins how he died for ushow we are savedhow we are rewarded for living the christian lifeand how He will come again.compeltley agree Jag these just horrible versions.heck If you even try to read them they could get you saved.my point here is the best bible is the one you read. They all in general tell of the same beliefs.The bible which saved me was the good news translation. Thats about as badly translated as they come.
 

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I heard something so awesome...I think all you christians might be as amazed as I was and also as glad to hear it....Find it at Living Waters...look for and listen to "Hell's best kept secret." It's there.David Wilkerson said to the guy preaching, "I thought I was the only one who didn't believe in follow-up." What did he mean by this? You know how we always feel that we have to run after and protect and try to root and ground the new Christian...so they don't give up right away?There is a no follow-up Salvation! A kind that is immovable when it is born. But what brought us to it? Did we come to see if God really would make our life wonderful...full of Grace...free of trouble and full of abundance? If so we will likely fall quick, because obviously we need a much deeper root than much of todays' promises of a great life if you accept God...It's Grace without the law...and when we get a hard time...trials, temptations, pains, instead of peace and blessings, we give it up easy....But to those who Realize the weight of the Law...how it has already condemned us to hell...in heaven, in our heart, and in our nature, so that we really are helpless...and man...helpless again, to come out from under it's weight without the blood of Christ, then we Know with a knowing, that what God gave us is priceless and worth any pain, any trials in life, any weight to bear, any persecution, even a gun held to our head...and we know that nothing in heaven above or in the earth or beneath the earth can separate us from the love of God in Christ...It's not just Grace...it's Life...it's life! And for a person who Realizes what the wages of sin really are they also realize what a magnificant and eternal gift God has given them...and today I don't think we always realize or are told and made aware of how heavy this law is so that it condemns us to hell...and so we see birthed Christians who have no deep root in the reality of what Salvation really is...This audio I thought divided asunder the modernized gospel some call a feather duster, from the one of great Power, that delivers a man from death unto life, translates him from the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of light...makes an eternal change in his heart that is not one he made, while he made the choice to surrender, God himself did the transforming...changed the record in heaven...changed the man in the center of his being...This Reality alone is enough to keep a man, even if he is a baby in the faith; It is the Law that perfectly converts the soul...perfectly.... siskim
 

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Not to take away from believers post, but I have also had a problem of similar sorts. I helped bring on of my good friends to christ and he seemed sincere at first, he still reads his bible. But he just treats it like its just another book, and he doesn't seem to take any of it seriously anymore. And I read in Hebrews that someone who has been saved and then falls away...well thats pretty much the end for them. Any advice?And congratulations on your success in helping your brother!!
 

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Not to take away from believers post, but I have also had a problem of similar sorts. I helped bring on of my good friends to christ and he seemed sincere at first, he still reads his bible. But he just treats it like its just another book, and he doesn't seem to take any of it seriously anymore. And I read in Hebrews that someone who has been saved and then falls away...well thats pretty much the end for them. Any advice?And congratulations on your success in helping your brother!!
Thank you. And I'm not a very experienced christian, but I know enough to say that no matter how many times you stumble or fall, jesus will always await you with open arms.