Lol, you need five paragraphs? It's not enough that scripture confirms Jesus is divinity, you need it repeated over and over? You didn't address any of the verses, instead you just ignore them and claim you are right.
Ever think that the truth that Jesus is God is so obvious, you should not have to be beat over the head with it?
Sure he was all those other things too, because he is God. You would put your faith in a mere man? I've already shown how foolish that is.
Of course Renniks, one needs a plethora of testimony in order to substantiate the unfathomable - God became man. In other words, a radical conclusion, requires a radical testimony.
You cannot state that the notion that Jesus is God is so obvious, because even the leading trinitarian proponents agree that it is nowhere
taught in the Bible, but merely inferred. Very shameful exegesis, this would be extremely incompetent even to prove something plausible.
Sorry if i forgot, but where did you
prove that faith in a mere man was foolish? I was saying that the Atonement falls apart with God propitiating Himself, or raising Himself from the dead. How did you prove otherwise?
I didn't mean to overlook the verses that you provided, but just felt that they weren't relevant to the immediate point at hand, they didn't address the points in my post that you were responding to at that time.
'It's says otherwise in Romans 5. A man had to die, but not a mere man.' No, it doesn't say that at all, you eisegeted that. Paul was emphatic, he repeated it over 5 times, that is,
man for man.
'Paul reminds us that everything that comes to us comes through our Lord Jesus Christ. Christ is the way to God. He himself said so: "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man [-- no man --] comes to the Father but by me," (John 14:6 KJV). Therefore, when you see the greatness of Christ, you have seen the greatness of God. It is he who reveals the Father. Remember how John begins his gospel'
These all are easily reconciled with the fact all that God orchestrates, reflects His glory. If you've seen the universe, then you have seen God. It God decided that there is only one way to salvation, and to the Father, and that is through Jesus, then all the statements in your quote are true with Jesus solely as a creature. Just as Moses had God's glory on his face as he came down from mount Sinai, he represented God during his lifetime.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God...And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. (John 1:1, 1:14
This is a literary form called antanaclasis, where the same word is used several times in a single sentence or context, but has a different meaning each time that it is used. John is saying that neither the Garden of Eden, nor the Noahic Covenant, nor the Abrahamic, Mosiac nor Davidic Covenants, were God's original desire and will for mankind, despite their historical precedence. Jesus, who was created around 4BC, after several millennia of history, was finally disclosing God's true will and desire for mankind. The entire universe held together under one head, Jesus Christ.
The Word of God describes Jesus as the head of the church, the ruler over all creation, and the Lord of lords and King of kings (Col. 1:15-18; Rev. 3:14,
Jesus is “Lord of all” (Acts 10:36).
The declaration “Jesus is Lord” indicates that Jesus is God. Jesus holds “all authority in heaven and on earth” (Matthew 28:18). He is “Lord of the Sabbath” (Luke 6:5); “our only Sovereign and Lord” (Jude 1:4); and “the Lord of lords” (Revelation 17:14).
Yes, not one of these appellations necessitate that Jesus be God. These are all referring to what he became, not what he was. Because he pleased God, and fulfilled God's Law through 100% devotion and love towards God, it pleased God to exalt him as such. This is how the story goes. Jesus says that all that he has, is from the Father, and never, ever, says otherwise.
Thomas said to him, ‘My Lord and my God!’” (John 20:28). From there on the message of the Apostles was that Jesus is Lord, signifying that “Jesus is God.”
Men were called gods throughout the Bible and history. For all the power and authority that was bestowed upon Jesus from the Father, yes, he is a god to us all, just as Moses was a god to the Israelites during the exodus. Just as the people prostrated themselves before King David, and Bathsheba prostrated herself before Solomon, and Sarah called Abraham lord, these gestures and reverence do not necessitate divine worship.
