ScottA
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Yes--you made such a good point of it that I started a new thread to clarify: The Spirit...and All AuthorityI like the above post! We do get the revelation through the Holy Spirit by listening to His words, which are spirit. However, it is the Son (Jesus Christ who gets the glory) according to both the Father and the Spirit! Indeed the Holy Spirit has such a great desire to glorify the Son that the Holy Spirit does not even speak on His own initiative! He takes the words of God which belong to Jesus Christ, whose name is "The Word of God" because the Father gave the words of God to the Son and He owns them.
So we don't talk to the Holy Spirit but rather we talk to Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit! The Holy Spirit acts like a living telephone line to the Son, and when you talk to your brother over the phone you don't say you talk to the phone but that you talk to your brother over the phone. I the same way we don't say we talk to the Holy Spirit but rather that we talk to Jesus Christ when in the Spirit, or something like that.
I bring this up again because the Holy Spirit is not the only spirit around. The devil will come as a spirit of light - that is to say demons will come pretending to be the Holy Spirit and they will glorify themselves as if they are the Holy Spirit. So one of the ways we test the spirits are to see if they are into glorifying Jesus Christ as Lord. That is what the Holy Spirit always does. And again - the Holy Spirit does that by not speaking on His own initiative, but rather He takes the words of God from the Son and speaks those words to you.
1 Cor 12:3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus is accursed”; and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
So the question we need to ask ourselves is: are we saying Jesus Christ our Lord?
Saying we have to listen to the Holy Spirit might not be the same thing? I might be, if we are just stating that we get in touch with Jesus Christ via the Holy Spirit. That is just a fact. But if our message turns from seeking Jesus Christ to seeking the Holy Spirit, then we are starting to glorify the Holy Spirit as opposed to Jesus Christ, which is something the Holy Spirit does not do.
Yes, the Lord sends us the Holy Spirit. Yes, the Holy Spirit does speak to us, but only what He gets from the Son. Of course the Son got His words from the Father who gave Him the words of God. Yet both the Father and the Holy Spirit want Jesus Christ glorified! So it is that we seek and find Jesus Christ! That happens via the Holy Spirit, and we need to make that clear, but we don't seek the Holy Spirit, we seek Jesus Christ the Lord our God!!