I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

[amigo de christo]

As do I.
Therefore I am signing out of all forums.
This is unpleasant to my heart and I am very very weary of it all.

May God keep us strong in the faith and grow us ever stronger. May his Spirit keep us ever searching for his truth !

Dear reader,
Today is the day of your salvation. Choose to serve God and him only; He never fails !

Love to all and thank you !

Dont leave dear sister . You dont have to read everything folks say .
You have been an ecouragment to me sister . IF you want to spend less time then okay .
But keep peeking in sister and keep pointing to CHRIST JESUS .
The lambs shall contend for the true faith sister . Dont let things wear you down sister .

 

[amigo de christo]

As do I.
Therefore I am signing out of all forums.
This is unpleasant to my heart and I am very very weary of it all.

May God keep us strong in the faith and grow us ever stronger. May his Spirit keep us ever searching for his truth !

Dear reader,
Today is the day of your salvation. Choose to serve God and him only; He never fails !

Love to all and thank you !

you will be missed dear sister . try and stay on the gems section at least .

 

[marks]

As do I.
Therefore I am signing out of all forums.
This is unpleasant to my heart and I am very very weary of it all.

May God keep us strong in the faith and grow us ever stronger. May his Spirit keep us ever searching for his truth !

Dear reader,
Today is the day of your salvation. Choose to serve God and him only; He never fails !

Love to all and thank you !

I understand, but my hope is to find a higher way.

I do believe that we can have the most unity within our personal fellowships.

Much love!

 

[marks]

The anti christ is he . what do you mean by that my friend . Did you mistype like i often do .

We should not be mistaken as though the antichrist were Christ Himself.

Much love!

 

[Marvelloustime]

@L3astAm0ngManyB13ss3d
Brother @amigo de christo is right, my dear sister. Please don’t leave us.

 

[marks]

1 Peter 3:22 (KJV) Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

Again, there is more to the story,

Philippians 3:20-21 KJV
20) For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21) Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Acts 3:19-21 KJV
19) Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
20) And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
21) Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Much love!

 

[marks]

There is NOT a single verse found in Scripture telling us Christ or David will sit on an earthly throne ruling and reigning over His people.

But there is!

Jeremiah 30:7-10 KJV
7) Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
8) For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
9) But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
10) Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.

The only question remaining . . . do you believe what God through Jeremiah said? Or do you believe something different? Do you believe God will raise up David to be their king?

Much love!

 

[David in NJ]

It is Speaking of JESUS .
There are other places that talk about DAVID ruling over them , and there will be one fold and one shepard .
BUT IT MEANS THE SEED , which is CHRIST .
Yur right my friend .
Notice what the blind man calls him . SON OF DAVID , have mercy on me .
JESUS IS THE PROMISED KING OF ISRAEL . plus folks need to read luke too .
ALSO notice back in exodus , it says OUT OF EYGPT have i called my SON , referring to Israel
when he called the nation of israel out of eygpt .
YET years later the author of , i think its mathew
Says as it is written OUT OF EYGPT have i called my SON . REFERENCING JESUS .
Jacob was named israel later . ONLY NOW WE GOT US A KING OF TRUE ISRAEL .
A KINGDOM that cannot be destroyed . FOR GOD RULES IT , CHRIST RULES IT and for now
its heavenly . That kingdom WILL NEVER BE MOVED , as were the other two . THE TEMPLE will never be destroyed
as were the other two . THE TRUE KING SITS OVER IT .
GOD AND THE LAMB are the temple . and Israel are HIS PEOPLE . ONE FOLD ONE SHEPARD .
it consists of the believing jew and believing gentile .
Ever wonder why paul says this , AND THE ISRAEL OF GOD . OH YEAH .
Israel of GOD consists of ..........................THE BELIEVERS IN JESUS CHRIST . ONE FOLD NOW . ONE FOLD
Not two . ONE . folks need to see the bigger picture . The flesh of any
man whether he is jewish born or gentile born , profits nothing . YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN

Why did God change the name of Jacob to Israel?

When @marks understands this, then he will grow in understanding of the Gospel.

 

[marks]

Why did God change the name of Jacob to Israel?

Do you believe this passage as written?

Jeremiah 30:7-10 KJV
7) Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
8) For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
9) But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
10) Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.

I do! And why not? It's God's Own Word!

Much love!

 

[David in NJ]

Do you submit to the Word of God?

Do you believe what this passage claims? As written? Or do you make the same changes in your mind when you read this even as others do?

Jeremiah 30:7-11 KJV
7) Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
8) For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
9) But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
10) Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.
11) For I am with thee, saith the LORD, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet will I not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.

It doesn't sound like you do. If not, how is that being submitted to the Word of God?

Much love!

marks,
i say YES to all the prophecies/promises God made to the physical seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Can you SEE that the LORD Jesus said when this would happen?

Here is your parralell Promise from the Gospel = Matthew 23:37-39

“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!
See! Your house is left to you desolate; for I say to you,
you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ ”

 

[David in NJ]

Why does God continue to use both names even in His prophecies? Keep seeking that understanding! Why was God so specific in His prophecies? So ironclad? The answer to this will help you in that understanding.

Much love!

i already KNOW

SEE the LORD's words on Jacob = Matthew chapter 23

 

[David in NJ]

As do I.
Therefore I am signing out of all forums.
This is unpleasant to my heart and I am very very weary of it all.

May God keep us strong in the faith and grow us ever stronger. May his Spirit keep us ever searching for his truth !

Dear reader,
Today is the day of your salvation. Choose to serve God and him only; He never fails !

Love to all and thank you !

i would hate to see you go my Sister.

These forums are filled with misguided people who need Holy Spirit Saints like yourself to direct them back to the Holy Scriptures.

 

[marks]

you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ ”

Romans 11:25-27 KJV
25) For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26) And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27) For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Isaiah 59:20-21 KJV
20) And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.
21) As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.

God does not break His promises.

Much love!

 

[David in NJ]

Believe Him.

Much love!

marks,

i SEE that you are unwilling to submit to JESUS words in John 3:29-39 , Matthew ch23 and Matthew ch24

Not answering the simple a,b,c, questions whereby the straight-forward answers are in these scriptures!

TRUTH never shies away, diverts or makes excuses.

 

[David in NJ]

Romans 11:25-27 KJV
25) For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26) And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27) For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Isaiah 59:20-21 KJV
20) And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.
21) As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.

God does not break His promises.

Much love!

Nobody said He does!

These Scriptures you posted expose the lie of pre-trib rapture.

 

[marks]

If you believe this, as written,

John 3:16-17 KJV
16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17) For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Why do you not believe this as written?

Jeremiah 30:7-10 KJV
7) Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
8) For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
9) But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
10) Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.

Or this?

Isaiah 11:11-12 KJV
11) And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
12) And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Or this?

Jeremiah 31:35-37 KJV
35) Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
36) If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37) Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.

Much love!

 

[marks]

Why do you not believe this?

Ezekiel 36:22-28 KJV
22) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
23) And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
24) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
25) Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26) A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27) And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
28) And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

Believe His Word.

Much love!

 

[rwb]

Again, there is more to the story,

Philippians 3:20-21 KJV
20) For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21) Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Acts 3:19-21 KJV
19) Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
20) And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
21) Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Much love!

Yes, the rest of the story is that Christ will return again to establish His Kingdom on the new earth. The times of restitution began when Christ came to earth a man. The times of restitution of all things shall be complete when the seventh angel begins to sound that time for this earth shall be no longer. Because that is when all shall be restored, which is what 'restitution' is, or as Scripture says, "made new", just as it was in the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth.

 

[marks]

i SEE that you are unwilling to submit to JESUS words

You build this up in your mind but you are not defining me, only accusing me.

Much love!

 

[rwb]

But there is!

Jeremiah 30:7-10 KJV
7) Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
8) For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
9) But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
10) Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.

The only question remaining . . . do you believe what God through Jeremiah said? Or do you believe something different? Do you believe God will raise up David to be their king?

Much love!

Where in this passage does it say or even imply that David will serve as king on this earth?