I think the crucifix is a Satanic, twisted, perverted, counterfeit, trophy of the cross

[Keiw]

Biden is a murderer as well is he not ? He aborts healthy 9 month old baby's even and is proud of it ! not to mention he is the number one antagonist in the War going on in Ukraine and is so full of lies about everything !

W Churchill brought on WW2, he brought it all on and the UK was a wreck after it all, how many were killed in that load of BS let alone the hell that everyone went through.
Not to mention that if Hitler had targeted England only after the fall of France, the Nazis would of walked directly in easy as pie, especially if the Communist were on Hitler's side ? As both Hitler and Stalin were once mates who got along ok helping each other in military training etc.

W Churchill said 3 years before WW3, That Germany is going to get War wether she likes it or not ! So he and his crew were baying for War 3 years before hand in fact.
As a old Jew informed me in the early 70's that he blamed W Churchill for all of the Jews being killed ! and he had the numbers on his arm from being in the Nazi Camps.

God allows the govts for now. But when Jesus returns here(Rev 19:11) he will wipe them all off of Gods earth(Dan 2:44)-Rev 16 is a warning about that. Not one govt does Gods will. Some of them even throw God out of Govt( seperation of church and state)which opens the door for satan to rule. He does it like this-2Cor 11:12-15) so few even know reality of the matter. That is why 99% on earth will lose at Rev 19:11

 

[Patrick1966]

Hislop was 100% correct about the origins of easter. Beltis the queen of the heavens( false god worship) known as Astarte- called Ishtar on the Assyrian monuments from the Chaldean rites of spring false god worship celebration. The H is silent in Ishtar-it is pronounced eastar--So the religion that came out of Rome named that holiday after a false God. As well the dyed eggs of Pasch from a false god worship rites of spring= straight off the table of demons( 1 Cor 10:21)God says one cannot partake off that table and his table) was included and not spoken against by ones spiritual teachers when parents hand that to their children each year. Satan wins like this-2Cor 11:12-15--He uses love, sharing whatever it takes to mislead.
Another example of that is valentines day- a real life false god worshipped for centuries is included in that celebration= cupid.
One can reason falsely that its just all innocent, but it is not.
The same with Christmas as well. Pagan practices off the table of demons were included.
The encyclopedias have much info on these truths. So it is not bogus, its reality and Hislop was correct.

The argument that we should abstain from something Holy because pagans practiced something that was similar but unholy is like saying we shouldn't drink water because pagans drank water.

 

[Keiw]

The argument that we should abstain from something Holy because pagans practiced something that was similar but unholy is like saying we shouldn't drink water because pagans drank water.

Ishtar( eastar) is a real life false god. Gods #1 commandment--Thou shalt not have any other gods before your face. Your reasoning is false. Most do just that because-- the heart is treacherous and desperate, who can know it( Jeremiah 17:9)--The world says follow your heart= bad advice for most.

 

[Patrick1966]

Ishtar( eastar) is a real life false god. Gods #1 commandment--Thou shalt not have any other gods before your face. Your reasoning is false. Most do just that because-- the heart is treacherous and desperate, who can know it( Jeremiah 17:9)--The world says follow your heart= bad advice for most.

You shouldn't use your right hand to shake another's hand. Hitler used to shake with his right hand.

 

[Keiw]

You shouldn't use your right hand to shake another's hand. Hitler used to shake with his right hand.

More false reasoning

 

[Patrick1966]

More false reasoning

Do you eat Italian? So did Mussolini.

 

[Keiw]

Do you eat Italian? So did Mussolini.

Italian food has 0 to do with killing or false god worship.

 

[bluedragon]

Let me show you who took the Cross, and Twisted it into a Satanic Symbol

2 people did this, most recently.

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Look at that! A Democrat!

 

[David in NJ]

Let me show you who took the Cross, and Twisted it into a Satanic Symbol

2 people did this, most recently.

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The Swastika was not created by the Nazis.

Hitler used the swastika from Buddah/Hindu religion = History of the Swastika

 

[Behold]

The Swastika was not created by the Nazis.

Hitler used the swastika from Buddah/Hindu religion = History of the Swastika

What you are referring to is the "revised history".
But it not the actual reality.
Here is the reality.
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Nazis never had any swastika as their symbol.
The Nazi symbol was : “Hakenkreuz”.
All Nazis in nazi Germany always called their symbol “Hakenkreuz”. **ALL**.= “Hakenkreuz” literally translates as “ hooked cross”.= CROSS.

"CROSS"

"Crooked Cross"
.....It is an old Christian symbol called : Crux Dissimulata.

Hitler took this symbol from Teutonic symbols in '1920.
Teutonic knights were German Christians, "warriors of Christianity",

You can find the detailed explanation below, with reference, link to the primary source, handwritten by Hitler in 1920, in which Hitler shows the Teutonic inspiration of the Nazi symbol.
The German government preserves that document, and it has been published.


Let's see that original document here too.

The caption under that pic shows a translation of what Hitler wrote on that paper.
So, What on earth does it have to do with Indians, Hindus, or the Hindu symbol swastika?

= NOTHING.

Nazis selected their symbol at a nazi conference in Chiemseehof, Czechoslovakia, on 7 August 1920.
The Nazi conference was headed by Rudolf Jung. There were 250 nazi delegates from Austria, Germany, Czechoslovakia, Poland.
All of them would have been white Europeans, and almost all Christians, and maybe a few atheists. There was certainly no Hindu or Indian anywhere near that place.

 

[David in NJ]

What you are referring to is the "revised history".
But it not the actual reality.
Here is the reality.
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Nazis never had any swastika as their symbol.
The Nazi symbol was : “Hakenkreuz”.
All Nazis in nazi Germany always called their symbol “Hakenkreuz”. **ALL**.= “Hakenkreuz” literally translates as “ hooked cross”.= CROSS.

"CROSS"

"Crooked Cross"
.....It is an old Christian symbol called : Crux Dissimulata.

Hitler took this symbol from Teutonic symbols in '1920.
Teutonic knights were German Christians, "warriors of Christianity",

You can find the detailed explanation below, with reference, link to the primary source, handwritten by Hitler in 1920, in which Hitler shows the Teutonic inspiration of the Nazi symbol.
The German government preserves that document, and it has been published.


Let's see that original document here too.

The caption under that pic shows a translation of what Hitler wrote on that paper.
So, What on earth does it have to do with Indians, Hindus, or the Hindu symbol swastika?

= NOTHING.

Nazis selected their symbol at a nazi conference in Chiemseehof, Czechoslovakia, on 7 August 1920.
The Nazi conference was headed by Rudolf Jung. There were 250 nazi delegates from Austria, Germany, Czechoslovakia, Poland.
All of them would have been white Europeans, and almost all Christians, and maybe a few atheists. There was certainly no Hindu or Indian anywhere near that place.

What you just posted is 'revised' Nazi history.

The ancient symbol that was hijacked by evil

How an auspicious sacred sign was twisted to become the graphic embodiment of hate and intolerance. Kalpana Sunder explores the extraordinary history of a potent emblem.

www.bbc.com

 

[lforrest]

Interesting discussion,

Shouldn't the crucifix and the cross serve as symbols with the same meaning? It should remind us of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. As well as God's justice and grace.

The cross just leaves more to the imagination, but Jesus dieing on the cross is certainly implied by the cross symbol. Give the crucifix a halo and you have yourself an even more accurate image.

But by elaborating on details in the symbol and leaving less to the imagination, perhaps it detracts from the other implied meanings not depicted. That being the resurrection.

Maybe the Catholic Church assumed many of its laymen are ignorant, and wouldn't know the message that the cross should invoke without more details. I fear that is likely the case, and the cross becomes just an icon where the crucifix at least reminds us explicitly that Jesus died on the cross for our sins.

 

[Behold]

What you just posted is 'revised' Nazi history.

The ancient symbol that was hijacked by evil

How an auspicious sacred sign was twisted to become the graphic embodiment of hate and intolerance. Kalpana Sunder explores the extraordinary history of a potent emblem.

www.bbc.com

If you will do the research, you can find out who tries to confuse the Hindu religious artifact with the "crooked cross"
Just dig a little deeper..

Go here..

“Hakenkreuz”. **ALL**.= “Hakenkreuz” literally translates as “ hooked cross”.= CROSS.
It is an old Christian symbol called : Crux Dissimulata.

And that is literally Hitler's material.

 

[marks]

Interesting discussion,

Shouldn't the crucifix and the cross serve as symbols with the same meaning? It should remind us of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. As well as God's justice and grace.

The cross just leaves more to the imagination, but Jesus dieing on the cross is certainly implied by the cross symbol. Give the crucifix a halo and you have yourself an even more accurate image.

But by elaborating on details in the symbol and leaving less to the imagination, perhaps it detracts from the other implied meanings not depicted. That being the resurrection.

Maybe the Catholic Church assumed many of its laymen are ignorant, and wouldn't know the message that the cross should invoke without more details. I fear that is likely the case, and the cross becomes just an icon where the crucifix at least reminds us explicitly that Jesus died on the cross for our sins.

My brother in law (not a Christian) once gave me a Cross themed wind chime. Very nice, it still hangs on my patio. He had written on the box something like, "The depth of a symbol is determined by the one who holds it."

The one who thinks a Crucifix to be Satanic shouldn't have one, I think!

For me the cross alone reminds me of the resurrected Christ. Empty cross, empty tomb.

Much love!

 

[Behold]

Interesting discussion,

Shouldn't the crucifix and the cross serve as symbols with the same meaning? It should remind us of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. As well as God's justice and grace.

The cross just leaves more to the imagination, but Jesus dieing on the cross is certainly implied by the cross symbol. Give the crucifix a halo and you have yourself an even more accurate image.

But by elaborating on details in the symbol and leaving less to the imagination, perhaps it detracts from the other implied meanings not depicted. That being the resurrection.

Maybe the Catholic Church assumed many of its laymen are ignorant, and wouldn't know the message that the cross should invoke without more details. I fear that is likely the case, and the cross becomes just an icon where the crucifix at least reminds us explicitly that Jesus died on the cross for our sins.

The original Christian "symbol" isn't the Cross.

Its This..



and this..
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The Early followers of Jesus were "followers of the WAY".... as in "Jesus is THE WAY".... John 14:6

The "fish", the "Ichthys", was based on "... "fishers of Men"

 

[David in NJ]

If you will do the research, you can find out who tries to confuse the Hindu religious artifact with the "crooked cross"
Just dig a little deeper..

Go here..

“Hakenkreuz”. **ALL**.= “Hakenkreuz” literally translates as “ hooked cross”.= CROSS.
It is an old Christian symbol called : Crux Dissimulata.

And that is literally Hitler's material.

It does not matter what Hitler and the Nazis said/say/imply/believe/claim.

Hitler and his henchmen were deeply involved in the occult which they learned from Ancient religions including the symbols.

 

[David in NJ]

Interesting discussion,

Shouldn't the crucifix and the cross serve as symbols with the same meaning? It should remind us of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. As well as God's justice and grace.

The cross just leaves more to the imagination, but Jesus dieing on the cross is certainly implied by the cross symbol. Give the crucifix a halo and you have yourself an even more accurate image.

But by elaborating on details in the symbol and leaving less to the imagination, perhaps it detracts from the other implied meanings not depicted. That being the resurrection.

Maybe the Catholic Church assumed many of its laymen are ignorant, and wouldn't know the message that the cross should invoke without more details. I fear that is likely the case, and the cross becomes just an icon where the crucifix at least reminds us explicitly that Jesus died on the cross for our sins.

i am a former RCC member here = conceived by catholic parents and raised in the catholic church.

If you or anyone needs a crucifix to be reminded of Jesus death & Resurrection, maybe you need more of Jesus and less of idols.

 

[Behold]

It does not matter what Hitler and the Nazis said/say/imply/believe/claim.

Hitler and his henchmen were deeply involved in the occult

The History i showed you was not written by "hitler and his men".

Its the history of the Nazi symbol that came later.

And yes, Adolf and Many of his top team were deeply into the Occult.

Even something like Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyries", and this Opera, is involved with the Occult Idea's of Hitler's 3rd Reich, and Germanic Superiority as a "race".

There is some evidence that Hitler has some "jew" in His bloodline.
The same can be said for Elvis Presley...
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[lforrest]

The original Christian "symbol" isn't the Cross.

Its This..

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and this..
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The Early followers of Jesus were "followers of the WAY".... as in "Jesus is THE WAY".... John 14:6

The "fish", the "Ichthys", was based on "... "fishers of Men"

This symbol I would consider corrupted when adding more detail, a cross for the eye, I can't help but see a dead fish.

xeyefish

www.christianityboard.com

 

[Grailhunter]

Hey I think I have some tar and a bag of feathers in the basement if you guys need it.