CoreIssue
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I never said quite tongues.
Now you stop and think what the implications are of the prayers of other religions.
I witnessed someone speaking in tongues today
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I never said quite tongues.
Now you stop and think what the implications are of the prayers of other religions.
You are attempting to say that our prayers in tongues can be likened to prayers to other gods...
The point @Willie T. was making is that we do not stop praying to our God that is true just because people of other religions pray to their false gods...
Therefore we do not stop praying in our prayer language just because people of other religions also have tongues.
You are attempting to cast doubt on tongues as an evidence of the Holy Ghost, and doing a good job of it...except for the scriptures that I previously gave, which show that tongues are indeed an evidence of the Holy Ghost; and I will add Mark 16:17 to that list at this point.
CoreIssue
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The Bible warns against many things leading Christians into false beliefs.
One of them is yourself. The Bible says your heart is deceptive above all things.
The more you say something is not possible more possible it becomes because you let your guard down.
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One of them is yourself. The Bible says your heart is deceptive above all things.
The more you say something is not possible more possible it becomes because you let your guard down.
How many of those in the seven churches of Revelation think they are actually true to God but are not?
With the original gift of tongues, the speakers knew what they were saying. Paul says tongues speakers edified themselves, and to interpret so all could understand and be edified. So these knew what they were saying. Today's tongue speakers do not know what they are saying meaning today's "gift" is not genuine.
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CoreIssue
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On this point I agree.
But I also have to know many of those who spoke in tongues at the beginning had no interpreter present.
Tongues came only through the hands of an apostle beyond the two outpourings. They ceased with the apostles. People get a buzz and relieve stress speaking in "tongues". But many religions, even voodoo practice this.Or...serious time before God on his face , with an OPEN heart and open ears...
The progression:
Jer 17:9, The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Eze 36:25, Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
Eze 36:26, A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27, And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Luk 8:15, But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.
Rom 15:14, And I myself also am persuaded of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another.
Speaking in Tongues: Glossalalia and Stress Reduction
According to scripture, today's tongues are not genuine. But many are exhilarated by babbling at an emotional level. In my days as a Pentecostal, I witnessed this and even experienced it to a degree. So I think people confuse this self induced buzz with a move of the Holy Spirit.
According to scripture, today's tongues are not genuine. But many are exhilarated by babbling at an emotional level. In my days as a Pentecostal, I witnessed this and even experienced it to a degree. So I think people confuse this self induced buzz with a move of the Holy Spirit.
It is an attempt by the enemy to coerce us into not stirring up the gift of the Lord within us, as far as I'm concerned...
An attempt to cast doubt on our tongues speaking as to whether it is genuine and to fear utilizing our gift, because of the possibility that it "might be a demon."
This is borderline blasphemy of the Holy Ghost as far as I'm concerned.
The enemy is effectively using his weapon of fear to attempt to take a spiritual weapon out of the hands of those who have been given that weapon as a part of their armour.
An attempt to cast doubt on our tongues speaking as to whether it is genuine and to fear utilizing our gift, because of the possibility that it "might be a demon."
This is borderline blasphemy of the Holy Ghost as far as I'm concerned.
The enemy is effectively using his weapon of fear to attempt to take a spiritual weapon out of the hands of those who have been given that weapon as a part of their armour.
CoreIssue
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Picking verses five different books of the Bible in contexts is not progression.
God says the gifts expired, the enemy says they did not.
CoreIssue
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That is fine for you personally. Just keep in mind that this is a highly contentious subject, and many Christians do not accept the validity of modern tongues as a prayer language for private use.
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