If Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14), how can we be sure we're not following someone who appears “biblical” but is ac

[Origen]

Can Someone Sound Biblical and Still Be a False Teacher?

2 Corinthians 11:14 warns us that “Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.” That means not everything that looks good, sounds spiritual, or uses Bible verses is truly from God. Some of the most dangerous deceptions come from people who seem sincere, quote Scripture, and even talk about Jesus—yet lead people away from the truth.

So here’s the question I want to open up for discussion:

If Satan disguises himself as an angel of light, how can we be sure we're not following someone who appears “biblical” but is actually a false teacher?

What do you personally look for when testing a teacher? How do you compare their words to Scripture? Are there red flags that immediately make you cautious?

Let’s use the Bible and discernment to sharpen each other on this important topic.

There is an unerring way to find out whether a prodigy—something extraordinary or inexplicable—comes from God or from a demon. And it is what a soul feels. If the extraordinary event comes from God, it infuses peace into the soul, peace and solemn joy. If it comes from the demon spirit, it brings about perturbation and sorrow. And peace and joy come also from the words of God, whereas perturbation and sorrow come from those of a demon, be it a demon spirit or a demon man. And also the closeness of God grants peace and joy whereas the closeness of wicked spirits or men bring about perturbation and sorrow. (PV4)

It is not possible to be mistaken between God and Satan, between heavenly and hellish voices, if the one who hears them bears in mind not the delights of the words, but the effects which they produce. Satan can ape God in speech, but he cannot communicate that grace and peace which the words of God or of the spirits of light produce. He cannot produce grace and holiness because his words are always mixed with insinuations which cannot be accepted by a soul in grace. And he cannot produce a sense of peace because the soul in grace starts with horror at the hellish voices, and even if the individual has no other signs to recognize who the spirit speaking is, this shudder of the soul suffices to give man the signal that it is Darkness which is manifesting itself at that moment. Satan can deceive sinners dazed by sin, the thoughtless and unreflecting, the curious who out of excessive desire for knowledge, imprudently approach all founts. But he cannot deceive an upright spirit united to God. All he can do is disturb it, drawing near to it, or wounding it by his own action, or by that of unfortunates who, rarely realizing that they are doing so, much more readily unaware of doing so, at a given moment are instruments used by Satan to cause God's instruments pain and dismay. But then God intervenes and draws them away, into the clear, and saves them, bathing them in His ocean of peace and love, because He loves them. (BOA)

 

[MatthewG]

A good question is " Is the person going off of what has been given to them with the biblical information we have today? "

For me, I believe Satan and his demons, hell, and the false prophet are all been taken care of today.
For me, I believe Jesus and his x 7 in speaking he was coming quickly wasn't a lie.
For me, I believe when Revelation was written and the people in the day, had to straighten up or they would miss the boat of being saved from the wrath of God which was going to poured out on the nation of Israel.


So, it's for me, to show these are mentions in Revelation itself.

Does me accepting them as having happened make me a Devil, or Satan, in believing that Satan, and his demons, hell, and the false prophet are done away with today, that Jesus had come back as promised *Faithfully*, and in that day in age was a promise to come which would never be so great again once the destruction had become the final draw between God and (Israel Materially which to me was "Satan" the place known as "Spiritual Egypt") had come to an end which drew the end of material religion all together, which of course material religion continues onward though it's not like it was when Yahavah would actually show up in the temple which is no longer around, and now instated as a heavenly kingdom and not material earth.

Are these assertions of the devil himself? Or a person who is able to reason, think, and try to grasp what is really going on with the problems which people continue to espouse? I get that light and darkness will always exist, and good and evil will always exist within us and our own hearts, as Jesus stated "Evil is what is within man."

Though many people wanna obsess about Satan, as though he still around and God is losing, all the while they continue to say "Yes, the devil has been defeated!" But! Not yet... really silly and confusing understanding in my opinion.

Do we still have people who want money and profit off God?
Do we have mentally ill people who may take a way off of what the bible says, and make false hope, false healings even? (Costing people their actual livelyhood)
Do we have priest who may not be mentally ill, and they just throw out some false things, in order to just get money?

There are all kinds of scam artist out there, and there are those actually impacting peoples lives in a whole negative way, opposite of faith itself, but believing they can command God to do something for them, or seek for their selfish desires via money and greed, and lust and whatevers. Some people may be doing it and not even realize it, and that is what is even sadder, there are those who know exactly what they are doing, and don't care.

 

[bdavidc]

There is an unerring way to find out whether a prodigy—something extraordinary or inexplicable—comes from God or from a demon. And it is what a soul feels. If the extraordinary event comes from God, it infuses peace into the soul, peace and solemn joy. If it comes from the demon spirit, it brings about perturbation and sorrow. And peace and joy come also from the words of God, whereas perturbation and sorrow come from those of a demon, be it a demon spirit or a demon man. And also the closeness of God grants peace and joy whereas the closeness of wicked spirits or men bring about perturbation and sorrow. (PV4)

It is not possible to be mistaken between God and Satan, between heavenly and hellish voices, if the one who hears them bears in mind not the delights of the words, but the effects which they produce. Satan can ape God in speech, but he cannot communicate that grace and peace which the words of God or of the spirits of light produce. He cannot produce grace and holiness because his words are always mixed with insinuations which cannot be accepted by a soul in grace. And he cannot produce a sense of peace because the soul in grace starts with horror at the hellish voices, and even if the individual has no other signs to recognize who the spirit speaking is, this shudder of the soul suffices to give man the signal that it is Darkness which is manifesting itself at that moment. Satan can deceive sinners dazed by sin, the thoughtless and unreflecting, the curious who out of excessive desire for knowledge, imprudently approach all founts. But he cannot deceive an upright spirit united to God. All he can do is disturb it, drawing near to it, or wounding it by his own action, or by that of unfortunates who, rarely realizing that they are doing so, much more readily unaware of doing so, at a given moment are instruments used by Satan to cause God's instruments pain and dismay. But then God intervenes and draws them away, into the clear, and saves them, bathing them in His ocean of peace and love, because He loves them. (BOA)

That statement you shared is not biblical and leads people into dangerous, mystical thinking that has no foundation in the Word of God. The idea that we can discern whether something comes from God or from Satan based on how it “feels,” whether it brings peace or disturbance, is completely unbiblical. The Bible never tells us to test spirits or spiritual experiences by emotions. In fact, it warns against trusting our own hearts, saying, “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17:9). Feelings are unreliable and can be manipulated. Satan is a deceiver who can appear as “an angel of light” (2 Corinthians 11:14), offering counterfeit peace, false comfort, and spiritual-sounding messages to draw people away from truth. Scripture is clear: we are to test the spirits (1 John 4:1), and the way we do that is by comparing everything to the written Word of God (Isaiah 8:20, Acts 17:11), not by inner impressions, not by emotional reactions, but by objective truth revealed in Scripture. Any spirit or message that contradicts the Bible is false, no matter how peaceful or powerful it may feel. Trusting feelings over Scripture opens the door to deception, and that is exactly what Satan wants. If you want real discernment, you need to be rooted in the Word of God, not mystical impressions.

Origen was not a biblical teacher, and his ideas are spiritually dangerous. He replaced the plain truth of Scripture with philosophy, allegory, and mystical feelings. If someone’s theology sounds more like Plato than Paul, more mystical than scriptural, it’s probably rooted in Origen. Stick with the Bible and let God say what He actually said.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

2 Corinthians 11:14 warns us that “Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.” That means not everything that looks good, sounds spiritual, or uses Bible verses is truly from God.

I take that verse literally.
Have you ever seen an angel of light? I haven't. The Bible says we might have met or entertained angels without knowing, but frankly I don't recall meeting one. And if Satan did disguise himself as an angel of light, he would be bright and glowing, unmistakable from a human. Even if he appeared as a human ( without the brilliance of an angel, his message would be a pack of lies. I would sense something off and dark. An alarm would go off.
>An example of Satan appearing as an angel of light was Moroni, who spoke to Joseph Smith. Likely Satan also appeared to Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, ... Since he can only be at once place at a time, I think his appearances are very selective to have a significant effect over the masses.
Now what I do think is that there are lots of tares in the mix influenced by Satan.
Though we, like the Bereans did, question and test all teachings, commentaries with scripture. The Holy Spirit helps us to discern between spirits. Actually I believe I have a spiritual gift to discern spirits.

 

[Origen]

Feelings are unreliable and can be manipulated. Satan is a deceiver who can appear as “an angel of light” (2 Corinthians 11:14), offering counterfeit peace, false comfort, and spiritual-sounding messages to draw people away from truth.

It's written that Satan and his servants, be it a demon spirit or demon man, masquerade as an angel of light, as in "a servant of righteousness", "whose end will be according to their works" (1 Cor. 11:14-15), and feelings are testified by deeds.

Scripture is clear: we are to test the spirits (1 John 4:1), and the way we do that is by comparing everything to the written Word of God (Isaiah 8:20, Acts 17:11), not by inner impressions, not by emotional reactions, but by objective truth revealed in Scripture.

"Beloved, don’t believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit who doesn’t confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God, and this is the spirit of the Antichrist, of whom you have heard that it comes. Now it is in the world already." (1 Jn. 4:1-3)

 

[bdavidc]

It's written that Satan and his servants, be it a demon spirit or demon man, masquerade as an angel of light, as in "a servant of righteousness", "whose end will be according to their works" (1 Cor. 11:14-15), and feelings are testified by deeds.



"Beloved, don’t believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit who doesn’t confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God, and this is the spirit of the Antichrist, of whom you have heard that it comes. Now it is in the world already." (1 Jn. 4:1-3)

Your reference to Satan masquerading as an angel of light is accurate, but your conclusion is not. You said, “feelings are testified by deeds,” but that’s not a biblical standard for testing spirits. The Bible never tells us to evaluate spiritual truth by feelings. In fact, Scripture warns us that the heart is deceitful (Jeremiah 17:9), and Satan can manipulate emotions just as easily as he can distort doctrine. The real test, according to 1 John 4:1–3, is doctrinal, whether the spirit or person confesses the true Jesus Christ who came in the flesh. That’s not a feeling test, it’s a truth test. We are commanded to test the spirits, not trust our impressions. Even the ministers of Satan can appear as servants of righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:14–15), so judging anything by how it makes you feel is a wide-open door to deception. The only safe ground is the written Word of God. If it doesn’t line up with Scripture, it’s false, no matter how peaceful or powerful it seems.

 

[bdavidc]

I take that verse literally.
Have you ever seen an angel of light? I haven't. The Bible says we might have met or entertained angels without knowing, but frankly I don't recall meeting one. And if Satan did disguise himself as an angel of light, he would be bright and glowing, unmistakable from a human. Even if he appeared as a human ( without the brilliance of an angel, his message would be a pack of lies. I would sense something off and dark. An alarm would go off.
>An example of Satan appearing as an angel of light was Moroni, who spoke to Joseph Smith. Likely Satan also appeared to Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, ... Since he can only be at once place at a time, I think his appearances are very selective to have a significant effect over the masses.
Now what I do think is that there are lots of tares in the mix influenced by Satan.
Though we, like the Bereans did, question and test all teachings, commentaries with scripture. The Holy Spirit helps us to discern between spirits. Actually I believe I have a spiritual gift to discern spirits.

You're right to take 2 Corinthians 11:14 literally, Satan does transform himself into an angel of light. But where your response starts to drift is when you shift the focus to feelings, impressions, and subjective “alarms going off.” That’s not how the Bible tells us to discern truth. Scripture never says, “You’ll know it’s Satan because it’ll feel dark.” In fact, the whole point of 2 Corinthians 11:14 is that Satan doesn’t feel dark, he appears as light, righteousness, and even spiritual insight. That’s what makes him dangerous. His deception isn’t obvious, it’s subtle. That’s why we’re told to test everything by Scripture, not by how something makes us feel. As for claiming a spiritual gift of discernment, be careful not to confuse biblical discernment, which comes from knowing and applying God's Word, with emotional reactions or gut feelings. The Bereans were called noble not because they “sensed” something, but because they searched the Scriptures daily to test what was being taught (Acts 17:11). Discernment that isn't grounded in the Bible isn’t discernment at all, it’s just personal instinct. Satan doesn’t care if you “sense something off,” as long as you don’t stick to the Word. True discernment is not a feeling, it’s a commitment to the truth as God has revealed it in Scripture.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

You're right to take 2 Corinthians 11:14 literally, Satan does transform himself into an angel of light.

You contradict yourself with these two statements. You aren't taking it literally. A literal appearance of an angel ( or Satan disguising himeslf as), is NOT what many people see.
"Appear" does not mean figuratively, to inwardly sense, it means to see and experience an angel coming down from heaven and talking to you.

In fact, the whole point of 2 Corinthians 11:14 is that Satan doesn’t feel dark, he appears as light, righteousness, and even spiritual insight. That’s what makes him dangerous.

As for how Satan whispers into the ears of our souls and influences us or influences us through other's teachings, is mysterious but something that Christians have to discern from.
But an appearance of an an angel ( or Satan himself) coming down from heaven is quite different - which I think that verse is literally meaning.

 

[bdavidc]

You contradict yourself with these two statements. You aren't taking it literally. A literal appearance of an angel ( or Satan disguising himeslf as), is NOT what many people see.
"Appear" does not mean figuratively, to inwardly sense, it means to see and experience an angel coming down from heaven and talking to you.

As for how Satan whispers into the ears of our souls and influences us or influences us through other's teachings, is mysterious but something that Christians have to discern from.
But an appearance of an an angel ( or Satan himself) coming down from heaven is quite different - which I think that verse is literally meaning.

You’re making some serious assumptions that don’t line up with what the Bible actually says. First, yes, when the Bible says an angel appeared, it typically means a visible, physical appearance. That part is true. Angels showed up in person to Mary (Luke 1:26–28), to the shepherds (Luke 2:9), and others, it wasn’t a feeling or a vision, it was literal.

But where you're going off track is how you're interpreting 2 Corinthians 11:14, “Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.” That doesn’t mean Satan visibly appears like a glowing figure descending from the sky. The Greek word used there, metaschēmatizō, means to disguise or to present oneself deceptively. And Paul immediately explains what that looks like, “Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness” (verse 15). In context, Paul is warning about false teachers, not visible Satanic apparitions. The deception is through smooth words, false doctrine, and counterfeit righteousness, not a literal manifestation.

Also, the Bible never says Satan “whispers to our souls.” That’s mystical language, not Scripture. Satan tempts (Matthew 4:1), deceives (Revelation 12:9), blinds minds (2 Corinthians 4:4), and twists Scripture (Genesis 3:1). He works through lies and false doctrine, not spooky whispers or subjective impressions.

Bottom line: Discernment comes from comparing everything to Scripture, not relying on feelings or mysterious experiences (Hebrews 5:14, 1 John 4:1). If you're using anything other than God’s Word to define what’s from God and what’s from Satan, you're opening the door to deception. Stick to what is written, not what feels spiritual.

 

[Origen]

The real test, according to 1 John 4:1–3, is doctrinal, whether the spirit or person confesses the true Jesus Christ who came in the flesh.

Satan can [...] easily [...] distort doctrine.

When it comes to testing the spirits and knowing who is of God (1 Jn. 4:1), according to you, "the way we do that is by comparing everything to the written Word of God", the same Word of God that you say Satan can distort. I brought to your attention in a prior post that John said, "By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit who doesn’t confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God, and this is the spirit of the Antichrist, of whom you have heard that it comes. Now it is in the world already."

In fact, Scripture warns us that the heart is deceitful (Jeremiah 17:9) [...]

"I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings." (Jer. 17:10)

You said, “feelings are testified by deeds,” but that’s not a biblical standard for testing spirits.

I actually said, "It's written that Satan and his servants, be it a demon spirit or demon man, masquerade as an angel of light, as in "a servant of righteousness", "whose end will be according to their works" (1 Cor. 11:14-15), and feelings are testified by deeds." Notice the part "whose end will be according to their works" which echoes Jesus Who said, "A good tree can’t produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit. Therefore, by their fruits you will know them" (Matt. 7:18-20). If you're a human, and I'll assume that you are, then you don't need to read in a book that words and works/deeds produce effects in order to know that. While Satan and his servants can masquerade as angels of Light (servants of righteousness), they can't produce what God and spirits of Light produce, because they are no longer of God.

You assert "Trusting feelings over Scripture opens the door to deception", while in the same breath also saying "Satan can easily distort [Scripture]". Do you see the problem with that? There are souls who are deceived, blinded, robbed, and killed, and through the distortion of God's Word, one of Satan's countless tactics, because he and his servants are liars, deceivers, thieves, and murderers (Jn. 8:44;10:10, Cor. 2:4, Rom. 6:23, Rev. 12:9). This is why it's said that it is not possible to be mistaken between God and Satan, between heavenly and hellish voices, if the one who hears them bears in mind not the delights of the words, but the effects which they produce. Satan can ape God in speech, but he cannot communicate that grace and peace which the words of God or of the spirits of Light produce. He cannot produce grace and holiness because his words are always mixed with insinuations which cannot be accepted by a soul in grace. And he cannot produce a sense of peace because the soul in grace starts with horror at the hellish voices, and even if the individual has no other signs to recognize who the spirit speaking is, this shudder of the soul suffices to give man the signal that it is Darkness which is manifesting itself at that moment. Satan deceives sinners dazed by sin, the thoughtless and unreflecting, the curious who out of excessive desire for knowledge, imprudently approach all founts. But he cannot deceive an upright spirit united to God. All he can do is disturb it, drawing near to it, or wounding it by his own action, or by that of unfortunates who, rarely realizing that they are doing so, much more readily unaware of doing so, at a given moment are instruments used by Satan to cause God's instruments pain and dismay. But then God intervenes and draws them away, into the clear, and saves them, bathing them in His ocean of peace and love, because He loves them. (BOA)

 

[bdavidc]

When it comes to testing the spirits and knowing who is of God (1 Jn. 4:1), according to you, "the way we do that is by comparing everything to the written Word of God", the same Word of God that you say Satan can distort. I brought to your attention in a prior post that John said, "By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit who doesn’t confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God, and this is the spirit of the Antichrist, of whom you have heard that it comes. Now it is in the world already."



"I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings." (Jer. 17:10)




I actually said, "It's written that Satan and his servants, be it a demon spirit or demon man, masquerade as an angel of light, as in "a servant of righteousness", "whose end will be according to their works" (1 Cor. 11:14-15), and feelings are testified by deeds." Notice the part "whose end will be according to their works" which echoes Jesus Who said, "A good tree can’t produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit. Therefore, by their fruits you will know them" (Matt. 7:18-20). If you're a human, and I'll assume that you are, then you don't need to read in a book that words and works/deeds produce effects. While Satan and his servants can masquerade as angels of Light (servants of righteousness), they can't produce what God and spirits of Light produce, because they are no longer of God.

You assert "Trusting feelings over Scripture opens the door to deception", while in the same breath also saying "Satan can easily distort [Scripture]". Do you see the problem with that? There are souls who are deceived, robbed, blinded, and killed, and through the distortion of God's Word, one of Satan's countless tactics, because he and his servants are deceivers, liars, thieves, and murderers (Jn. 8:44;10:10, Cor. 2:4, Rom. 6:23, Rev. 12:9). This is why it's said that it is not possible to be mistaken between God and Satan, between heavenly and hellish voices, if the one who hears them bears in mind not the delights of the words, but the effects which they produce. Satan can ape God in speech, but he cannot communicate that grace and peace which the words of God or of the spirits of Light produce. He cannot produce grace and holiness because his words are always mixed with insinuations which cannot be accepted by a soul in grace. And he cannot produce a sense of peace because the soul in grace starts with horror at the hellish voices, and even if the individual has no other signs to recognize who the spirit speaking is, this shudder of the soul suffices to give man the signal that it is Darkness which is manifesting itself at that moment. Satan deceives sinners dazed by sin, the thoughtless and unreflecting, the curious who out of excessive desire for knowledge, imprudently approach all founts. But he cannot deceive an upright spirit united to God. All he can do is disturb it, drawing near to it, or wounding it by his own action, or by that of unfortunates who, rarely realizing that they are doing so, much more readily unaware of doing so, at a given moment are instruments used by Satan to cause God's instruments pain and dismay. But then God intervenes and draws them away, into the clear, and saves them, bathing them in His ocean of peace and love, because He loves them. (BOA)

The irony of your entire post is that you are the exact warning of original post (OP) is talking about, a deceiver who cloaks error in religious-sounding language, twisting Scripture while pretending to defend it. You named yourself after a known heretic, “Origen”, and you continue to promote mystical garbage that flatly contradicts the Bible. No one on a Christian forum should be taking counsel from someone who openly identifies with false teaching. That alone should be a red flag.

You keep quoting 1 John 4:1–3 as if that’s all God gave us to test the spirits, but that’s not what the passage says in full. Yes, it says to test whether a spirit confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, but John also said, “They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us, he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error” (1 John 4:5–6). That means the apostolic doctrine, the Word of God, is the standard, not how something “feels,” not “grace energy,” and not your spiritual guesswork. You elevate vague emotional impressions above the Bible. That’s not discernment, that’s deception.

Your claim that Satan can’t produce a sense of peace is a lie. Scripture says he deceives the whole world (Revelation 12:9) and transforms himself into an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14). Peace is no test, the Bible warns that false prophets will cry “peace, peace” when there is none (Jeremiah 6:14). You talk like someone who’s read mystics, not the Bible. You say Satan can’t counterfeit holiness or produce peace? Show me that in the Word of God, because Scripture says even his ministers appear as ministers of righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:15). That means they look holy, they sound holy, they act holy. The only way to know the difference is by comparing everything to what God has actually said in His Word, not what “feels right” or produces some inner sense of light.

You said Satan cannot deceive someone united to God, that’s a lie too. If that were true, the Bible wouldn’t warn believers so often to beware of deception (Colossians 2:8, 2 Timothy 3:13, Matthew 24:24). Even Peter was rebuked by Jesus for being a mouthpiece of Satan (Matthew 16:23). So no, being “sincere” or “united to God” is not an automatic shield. The only protection against spiritual deception is the sword of the Spirit, the Word of God (Ephesians 6:17).

You claim I contradicted myself by saying “Satan can distort Scripture” but also “don’t trust feelings.” That’s not a contradiction. It’s called biblical discernment. Satan can twist Scripture out of context, just like you do, but he cannot destroy its power when it is rightly divided (2 Timothy 2:15). The written Word is the final authority, not your emotions, not mystical insights, and certainly not religious psychobabble. You’re the one pushing a spiritual system where feelings trump Scripture, and that’s straight from the enemy.

Let’s be clear, what you’re promoting is another gospel, filled with emotionalism, mystical filters, and extra-biblical nonsense. You are a living example of 2 Timothy 3:5: “Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” And I will obey that command.

You are not led by the Spirit of truth, you are a prime example of the spirit of error. And your entire response is exactly the kind of subtle, spiritual-sounding deception that leads people away from the Word and into confusion. Repent, and stop pretending that your feelings are the voice of God. They are not. Only the Scriptures are God-breathed (2 Timothy 3:16), and everything else, including your so-called “discernment,” must bow to that truth.

You even link to:
The "Book of Azariah" is not Scripture. It is an apocryphal addition to Daniel that should be rejected. God's Word is complete in the 66 books of the Bible, Genesis to Revelation. Anything outside of that is not God-breathed, not authoritative, and not to be treated as equal to Scripture.

“All Scripture is given by inspiration of God...” (2 Timothy 3:16) and this does not include the so-called Book of Azariah.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

The Greek word used there, metaschēmatizō, means to disguise or to present oneself deceptively. And Paul immediately explains what that looks like, “Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness” (verse 15). In context, Paul is warning about false teachers

Okay, I went over the context and read many commentaries and In context, the Corinthians were being led astray by false Apostles and so yes, Paul was pleading to them _ confirming the truth he has given them _ the sacrifices he made _ with love _ not to be deceived by false Apostles with a different Jesus "as" Satan disguises himself as an angel of light, meaning influencing his evil ministers to deceive and lie. I stand corrected.

Also, the Bible never says Satan “whispers to our souls.” That’s mystical language, not Scripture. Satan tempts (Matthew 4:1), deceives (Revelation 12:9), blinds minds (2 Corinthians 4:4), and twists Scripture (Genesis 3:1). He works through lies and false doctrine, not spooky whispers or subjective impressions

• 1 Chronicles 21:1: This verse describes Satan inciting David to take a census of Israel, against God's will. This illustrates Satan's ability to plant thoughts and ideas in our minds, leading us to act against God's commands. (David did not get that message from Satan through scripture!)
• Luke 22:3: Satan enters into Judas Iscariot, leading him to betray Jesus. (Judas did not betray Jesus because of something he read in scripture, nor was he betrayed by a false teacher, Satan possessed his mind - that's spooky.
• John 13:2: The devil puts it into the heart of Judas Iscariot to betray Jesus.
• John 13:27: After Judas takes the bread, Satan enters him. These verses demonstrate Satan's influence on thoughts and actions, leading to sin and disobedience.

Bottom line: Discernment comes from comparing everything to Scripture, not relying on feelings or mysterious experiences (Hebrews 5:14, 1 John 4:1).

The Holy Spirit helps us to discern scripture. Unbelievers can study zcripture all day and not receive discernment. When I said I would feel a presence of a bad spirit, I meant spiritually sense, an abrupt signal, warning, as a sign on the road approaching a curve to prevent you from going over the cliff. ( 1 Cor. 12:10)

 

[Dash RipRock]

Where do you think the primary emphasis is in the scriptures?

ALL of God's Word is important to God!

Like Pope Francis ? even carnal people loved him.

When the world loves a religious figure, there's the first notice that they are a false teachers.

Jesus said they hated Him and they would also hate His followers.

Have you ever seen an angel of light?

Have you ever seen electricity?

The Bible never tells us to evaluate spiritual truth by feelings

And this right here is how satan gets people to fall for false doctrine!

They get a few goose bumps and because of that they accept stuff that is not biblical.

 

[ShineTheLight]

Does me accepting them as having happened make me a Devil, or Satan, in believing that Satan, and his demons, hell, and the false prophet are done away with today, that Jesus had come back as promised

That's what your itching ears want to tell you. The Devil/Satan isn't done away with until the second coming of Jesus. That is facts.

Though many people wanna obsess about Satan, as though he still around and God is losing, all the while they continue to say "Yes, the devil has been defeated!" But! Not yet... really silly and confusing understanding in my opinion.

And you wanna obsess over something that isn't in truth or in righteousness. You wanna go by opinions. You don't hear anything that doesn't fit your scenario.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Have you ever seen electricity?

Yes, just the other day during a thunder storm a bolt of lightening came down from the heavens 200 feet from me right as I stuck my head outside my back door. Bomb. I not only saw it, I heard it too.

 

[Origen]

You claim I contradicted myself by saying “Satan can distort Scripture” but also “don’t trust feelings.” That’s not a contradiction.

I actually said, "You assert 'Trusting feelings over Scripture opens the door to deception', while in the same breath also saying 'Satan can easily distort [Scripture]'. Do you see the problem with that?" That's problematic because there are souls who are deceived, blinded, robbed, and killed through the distortion of God's Word, one of Satan's countless tactics, because he and his servants are liars, deceivers, thieves, and murderers (Jn. 8:44;10:10, Cor. 2:4, Rom. 6:23, Rev. 12:9). Anecdote: My Christian co-worker is currently educating another co-worker about "scripture supported reincarnation", which is somehow proven, according to a short passage of Paul's. I hope that I don't have to explain to you how unscriptural reincarnation is, and we can leave this anecdote as that. Therefore, no one can reasonably say that comparing everything to Scripture in and of itself is always an unerring way to know the difference between what is and isn't of God. And, that further bolsters my argument about feelings testifying to words and works/deeds, and thus being an unerring way to find out whether x comes from God or not.

It's not only written that Satan and his servants, be it a demon spirit or demon man, masquerade as an angel of light (a servant of righteousness), but also "whose end will be according to their works" (1 Cor. 11:14-15), which echoes Jesus Who said, "A good tree can’t produce evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree produce good fruit. Therefore, by their fruits you will know them" (Matt. 7:18-20). Can you reasonably deny that words and works/deeds produce effects? And, if demons could produce what God and spirits of Light produce, they wouldn't be demons, would they?

Your claim that Satan can’t produce a sense of peace is a lie.

[...] the Bible warns that false prophets will cry “peace, peace” when there is none (Jeremiah 6:14).

See the words I underlined in your quote and read that where there are false prophets, even if they proclaim "peace", there isn't peace [of God] (Jer. 6:14), because it comes from Him (Gal. 5:22, Phil. 4:7), and only those of God can produce the fruits of God. You unintentionally testified to the truth I speak.

You said Satan cannot deceive someone united to God, that’s a lie too. If that were true, the Bible wouldn’t warn believers so often to beware of deception (Colossians 2:8, 2 Timothy 3:13, Matthew 24:24).

I actually said, "Satan deceives sinners dazed by sin, the thoughtless and unreflecting, the curious who out of excessive desire for knowledge, imprudently approach all founts. But he cannot deceive an upright spirit united to God. All he can do is disturb it, drawing near to it, or wounding it by his own action, or by that of unfortunates who, rarely realizing that they are doing so, much more readily unaware of doing so, at a given moment are instruments used by Satan to cause God's instruments pain and dismay. But then God intervenes and draws them away, into the clear, and saves them, bathing them in His ocean of peace and love, because He loves them." In that quote, it's acknowledged that Satan tries to deceive, and explains the type of people he's successful and unsuccessful in deceiving.

Satan can twist Scripture out of context, just like you do [...]

Which verse(s) are you accusing me of twisting?

You even link to:
The "Book of Azariah" is not Scripture. It is an apocryphal addition to Daniel that should be rejected.

The Book of Azariah is not "The Prayer of Azariah".

 

[MatthewG]

That's what your itching ears want to tell you. The Devil/Satan isn't done away with until the second coming of Jesus. That is facts.



And you wanna obsess over something that isn't in truth or in righteousness. You wanna go by opinions. You don't hear anything that doesn't fit your scenario.

Thank you for sharing. I will continue to believe that Jesus has already came compared to the narrative which says he has not. Love to you and your family. I can't just revert back to something I once believed, and then coming upon new information to revert to something which is new, even though its contrary to most people beliefs.

They say "If Jesus came back then what is the hope Matthew!?" The Hope is being part of the family of faithful looking and seeking Yahavah and worshiping Yahavah in Spirit and in truth as they go about their life and then pass from here and go on to be with Yahavah there.

Whether people agree with me or not, is irrelevant, it's whether or not they agree with the information founded in the bible. There is a bible verse which shares "They say the resurrection had already passed, or that Jesus had already returned" (in that day in age) which you find Paul correcting the people that the time was not yet then, but as time progressed and John share his Revelation from Jesus Christ, to the 7 churches which were upon the end of the Age, were the ones that continued to wait even though ppl said it already passed, and they did see Jesus as promised, at least to me.


Of course; whether or not you accept it in ones own life is totally subjective. Jesus was the one whom said that the generation of his day would see the destruction, and those whom were the bride were to be taken out of this wrath to come.

All the best to you and everyones family on the board regardless of what you may adhere to. Most people can not simply accept it, because it draws away from.

"Where is the hope in us seeing all these atrocious things of life to end? Where are you JEsus! Save us from this world."

He was killed by this world itself, and he came back for those in his day and age, and now today due to his coming back and doing away with the devil and hell, leads us in to a new spiritual heavens and earth.


At least to me :) ! Carry on! You have the complete freedom to choose what you want to believe! It's your heart that will matter in the end towards the one whom you serve.


Even after my death, there will be countless thousands, or hundreds of thousands that will continue to share "the devil is out to get you."

Thats why I believe what Revelation states. The Devil is done away with. I accept it.

Even after my own death, there will continue to be countless thousands, or hundreds of thousands of people that will continue to believe "Jesus is coming soon!"

When if you go to the bible and look and study a little bit, you come to realize Jesus was coming in that day in time.

 

[MatthewG]

Thank you for sharing. I will continue to believe that Jesus has already came compared to the narrative which says he has not. Love to you and your family. I can't just revert back to something I once believed, and then coming upon new information to revert to something which is new, even though its contrary to most people beliefs.

They say "If Jesus came back then what is the hope Matthew!?" The Hope is being part of the family of faithful looking and seeking Yahavah and worshiping Yahavah in Spirit and in truth as they go about their life and then pass from here and go on to be with Yahavah there.

Whether people agree with me or not, is irrelevant, it's whether or not they agree with the information founded in the bible. There is a bible verse which shares "They say the resurrection had already passed, or that Jesus had already returned" (in that day in age) which you find Paul correcting the people that the time was not yet then, but as time progressed and John share his Revelation from Jesus Christ, to the 7 churches which were upon the end of the Age, were the ones that continued to wait even though ppl said it already passed, and they did see Jesus as promised, at least to me.


Of course; whether or not you accept it in ones own life is totally subjective. Jesus was the one whom said that the generation of his day would see the destruction, and those whom were the bride were to be taken out of this wrath to come.

All the best to you and everyones family on the board regardless of what you may adhere to. Most people can not simply accept it, because it draws away from.

"Where is the hope in us seeing all these atrocious things of life to end? Where are you JEsus! Save us from this world."

He was killed by this world itself, and he came back for those in his day and age, and now today due to his coming back and doing away with the devil and hell, leads us in to a new spiritual heavens and earth.


At least to me :) ! Carry on! You have the complete freedom to choose what you want to believe! It's your heart that will matter in the end towards the one whom you serve.


Even after my death, there will be countless thousands, or hundreds of thousands that will continue to share "the devil is out to get you."

Thats why I believe what Revelation states. The Devil is done away with. I accept it.

Even after my own death, there will continue to be countless thousands, or hundreds of thousands of people that will continue to believe "Jesus is coming soon!"

When if you go to the bible and look and study a little bit, you come to realize Jesus was coming in that day in time.

@ShineTheLight;

I can allow people to believe differently than myself. It's fine. Please be encouraged do to so. I don't believe anything that doesn't fit the scenario laid out by the Lord Yeshua, and the writers of that day, and even the people of those days whom were patiently waiting for the Lord to come, and if we can remember what Jesus said. He said the time after him coming back with the destruction, would never be so great again.

What that means to a person, is beyond me, but I know what it means to me as a person. So yeah, if the scenario is different that what has been laid out, I do reject it. However I can allow you to have it that if you want that cause I can't force no one to believe like myself.