Where does it say exactly in Scripture? Two different dimensions of existence. You make it up.
John 3:6; 1 Cor.15:49-50; Hebrews 4:12, etc. So... you haven't read much of The New Testament, have you?
If you don't believe there is another dimension that is NOT flesh, which is called Heaven, then you must default to belief only in the heaven around the earth called the sky. And thinking the sky is where the abode of God and the angels is, is pagan superstition.
(Yawning...) Like I did not know that.
Then learn the Hebrews 11:3 verse and remember it.
Okay... (patting on your back with a concern for you)
So you deny... what Jesus showed in Luke 16 about the rich man that died and he was taken to the place of hell where he could look across a great fixed gulf border to the other side at Abraham and Lazarus? So you only believe that Paradise is a place where Snow White and the seven dwarfs live?
And only someone who listens to Satan's children would laugh and mock New Testament Scripture like Matthew 10:28 where Jesus said to not fear those who can kill our flesh body, but not our soul.
Never studied it or apply it to my doctrine at all. So nope, you're wrong to assume that.
It's becoming obvious by the 'fruit' you show. You mock The New Testament Scriptures too often.
Common Jewish belief this, false Jewish belief that. You do not make any sense.
Many Jews that hang on old Jewish tradition from Judaism do not understand about the two different dimensions of existence. Nicodemus, a Pharisee, showed that in John 3. Their understanding is based only on a 'flesh' existence, which is why during the Jew's captivity to Babylon, their religious leaders started a corrupt religious system based on their Babylonian Talmud writings, which are NOT The Bible.
I never said that or believed that. Here you go again, false accusation.
If you don't understand that the abode of 'hell' is in the heavenly dimension, then you must... default to a false belief that 'hell' is literally in the earth somewhere, like the 'underworld' which the pagans believed.
LOL. Go read that link! Its not a literal hell at all.
What Jesus showed in Luke 16 is... definitely about a LITERAL place called 'hell' (Greek
haides). You may be in danger for mocking what Jesus showed there; He was not giving a parable. Claiming Bible Scripture is just 'parable' when Jesus said nothing about it being a parable, as He normally would do, is just an excuse those like you use to deny what Jesus revealed there in Luke 16 to the Jews.
You are reading into that thinking God is talking about how Satan physically walked among the angels in heaven right before God. You have no clues but deceived by traditional teachings.
YOU... are the one "reading into" in the Job 1 Scripture with your stupid idea that it meant Satan was just walking among the angels, and not about Satan appearing before God's Throne with the angels.
God asked Satan WHERE he had come from, and Satan said he had been going to and from in the earth, and from walking up and down in it...
Job 1:6-7
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
7 And the LORD said unto Satan, "Whence comest thou?" Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, "From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it."
KJV
Thus Apostle Peter said in 1 Peter 5:8 that the devil
"...walketh about, seeking whom he may devour."
I see you can't answer the questions. Figures.
Jesus already answered your Biblically illiterate statements and fake questions. And you will figure that in time.
Then hell was not literal where Rich man was, right? It was just a metaphor or analogy then? Humm?
What Jesus in Luke 16 about the abode of haides and the other side where Abraham and Lazarus was, is NOT parable, and you well know it. You obviously have a problem with reading comprehension, because what I said was only that when Jesus did... give parables, He always used REAL objects in the parable. So someone who is able to grasp that would know... that EVEN IF the Luke 16 example were a parable like YOU say, (though it is not), the objects of Paradise, like the abode of hell where the rich man went too, is still a REAL existing object! But it's obvious you cannot think on the level I explaining that to you.
Like I said, the 'objects' Jesus gave in Luke 16 about the abode of haides and it being across a great gulf fixed border of the side in Paradise where Abraham was, is all REAL, LITERAL. If Lazarus and the rich man were not actual people, that still does NOT mean the objects of hell and Paradise Jesus was describing are not real.
And I well understand how Jewish tradition believes in the FALSE idea that when our flesh body dies, our soul is in a state of 'soul sleep'. Dead in the ground theory is what I call that, which is against both the Scriptures of The Old Testament and The New Testament. That FALSE theory they devised from Gen.2:7 just shows how the Jews, like you, can't understand about the other dimension of Spirit, so they apply a 'fleshy' understanding to all existence. No wonder so many of them make excellent empirical materialist scientists that are atheists, they can't focus on anything else other than flesh.
Revelation 2:7, Luke 23:43, 2nd Corinthians 12:4, Revelation 2:7, etc. are talking about paradise being in heaven. Where all saved Elect are, just as Lazarus represents Gentiles who heard the Gospel and were saved. It is a spiritual picture. You do not understand who the rich man represents. His riches represent. Lazarus represents. etc.
Rev.2:7 is simply The Holy Spirit showing Apostle John a Message for the Church of Smyrna which was ON EARTH. So much for your FALSE interpretation on that!
2 Cor.12:4 is Apostle Paul talking of he knew of someone that was "caught up" to Paradise. How did that happen? Paul was once stone to death, and the Apostles prayed over and he got up. So Paul most likely was speaking of himself with that experience. So just WHAT part of Paul's being... was "caught up" to Paradise? His flesh? No, Paul's 'spirit' is what was "caught up" to Paradise, but in the future 'third heaven' age Paradise, which is about the world to come, God's new heavens and a new earth timing.
Acts 14:19
19 And there came thither certain Jews from Antioch and Iconium, who persuaded the people, and, having stoned Paul, drew him out of the city, supposing he had been dead.
KJV
Most likely the experience Apostle Paul was explaining in 2 Cor.12 was an NDE (near death experience). There are loads of medical history by both doctors and their patients that have testified of NDE's. The Hollywood western actor Clint Walker even gave a testimony of his NDE when a ski pole went through his heart, and 3 doctors pronounced him dead, and they moved his dead body out in the hall for pick up, when another doctor walked by him, and didn't think he was dead, so he inspected him, and he wasn't, and lived. Walker said he found himself in "that other body" we all have, pointing to his 'spirit' body:
Luke 23:43 means exactly what Jesus said there to the malefactor being with Him in Paradise THAT day, meaning when they both had died on their cross. And Jesus at His resurrection having gone to preach The Gospel to the
"spirits in prison", i.e., the abode of hell in the heavenly dimension, is testified of by Apostle Peter in 1 Peter 3 and 1 Peter 4.
So there's so... much Bible Scripture that points to that other dimension of Spirit being very REAL, that apparently the Jew's traditions that relies on 'flesh' won't allow your mind to grasp. You are just a modern day Nicodemus, not understanding that Jesus said that which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (John 3:6).
No, you need spiritual ears to hear. Not reading the Bible, especially parables, into literal narratives.
You don't have a clue as to what is meant literally vs. metaphorically in God's written Word. But you are not alone, because many deceived think the same way, just accepting the leaven doctrines of men they are taught, simply because they don't have understanding that this flesh world is just temporary, and did not create itself from matter.
