If sealed with the HS, how does one become UNsealed ?

[PeterAndroz]

From the OP:

Rather, context is required. We must consider the complete sentence:

In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

earnest = down payment

Tick, tick, tick...


If one cannot become "un-sealed" in the meantime, then why the admonition to "grieve not the holy Spirit of God"?

Tick, tick, tick
Where does Paul teach a SEALED believer can become UNsealed ?
Just the verses D, not your interpretation, tick, tick, tick

 

[rockytopva]

If I had to take a stab of the seven stars (messengers) to the seven candlesticks (churches)...

Original messenger - Church
1. Peter - Messianic
2. Paul - Early Gentile
3. Constantine - Greek Orthodox
4. Theodosius I - Catholic
5. Martin Luther - Protestant
6. John Wesley - The revived church (Methodist - Pentecostal)
7. Robert Shuller - The Country Club

One Church... Millions of congregations...
1. Ephesus - Messianic Jewish Church
2. Smyrna - Oriental Orthodox - The Roman persecutions were ten
3. Pergamos - Greek Orthodox - Pergos... A tower... Needed in the dark ages
4. Thyatira - Catholic - Middle ages
5. Sardis - Protestant - A sardis is a gem... Beautiful,,, Not much spiritually
6. Philadelphia - Wesleyan - Too bad the revivals didn't last longer
7. Laodicean - Word of Faith - Rich and have need of nothing?


Seven candlesticks - Seven generalized congregation - All unique - And Christ walking in the midst
Seven seals - Those names written in the Lambs Book of Life
Seven stars - Those messengers to the congregations

Regarding who is sealed in the Lamb's Book of Life...

3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. - Revelation 5

There is no man who is able to look into the Lamb's Book of Life and figure out whose sealed... unsealed... Or who has never been sealed. All of that is Heavenly business.

21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?
22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.
23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? - John 21

 

[Armour of God]

What does it mean to be "sealed"?
What's the definition of "sealed"?

 

[Gray_Joy]

What does it mean to be "sealed"?
What's the definition of "sealed"?

What are your answers,understanding?

 

[bdavidc]

Christ through Paul teaches how we receive the HS.
Where does Christ through Paul teach that a SEALED believer can become UNsealed ?
Verses please :)
.....
Eph 1:13 :-
In whom ye also trusted,
after that ye heard the word of truth,
the gospel of your salvation:
in whom also after that ye believed,
ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Eph 4:30 :-
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God,
whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

I do not see anywhere in Paul’s writings where a truly sealed believer becomes unsealed.

Ephesians 1:13 says that after hearing “the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation,” and believing, believers “were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise.” Then Ephesians 4:30 says we are “sealed unto the day of redemption.”

That phrase matters. It does not say sealed until your next failure. It does not say sealed until your next weakness. It does not say sealed until your next season of grief, struggle, correction, or chastening. It says sealed “unto the day of redemption.”

Now let us not twist that into careless living. The same verse says, “grieve not the holy Spirit of God” ~Ephesians 4:30. A sealed believer can grieve the Spirit. A sealed believer can be corrected. A sealed believer can be chastened. But grieving the Spirit is not the same thing as losing the seal.

Paul also says the Spirit is “the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession” ~Ephesians 1:14. That is God’s pledge. God does not put His seal on His people and then act like His own promise depends on the unstable grip of man.

Jesus said, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish” ~John 10:27-28.

That is not weak language. “Eternal life” is not temporary life. “Never perish” does not mean maybe perish later. If Christ gives life, Christ keeps what He gives.

But here is where the conscience needs to be pressed. This truth is no comfort to the false professor who wants assurance while living in rebellion. The Bible does not teach that a man can love sin, reject correction, despise holiness, and still hide behind the word “sealed” like a thief hiding behind a church door.

“If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature” ~2 Corinthians 5:17.

So if a person abandons the faith, rejects Christ, loves darkness, and walks away from the gospel, Scripture does not say he was sealed and then unsealed. It says, “They went out from us, but they were not of us” ~1 John 2:19.

That is the biblical line.

A true believer may stumble, but he will not be finally cast away. A false professor may look religious for a season, but time exposes what was never rooted in Christ.

So the question is not, “Can God lose someone He sealed?” Scripture gives no such teaching.

The question is, “Have I truly believed the gospel of Jesus Christ, or am I only wearing Christian language?”

God keeps His own. But His own hear His voice and follow Him.

 

[Rockerduck]

If I had to take a stab of the seven stars (messengers) to the seven candlesticks (churches)...

Original messenger - Church
1. Peter - Messianic
2. Paul - Early Gentile
3. Constantine - Greek Orthodox
4. Theodosius I - Catholic
5. Martin Luther - Protestant
6. John Wesley - The revived church (Methodist - Pentecostal)
7. Robert Shuller - The Country Club

One Church... Millions of congregations...
1. Ephesus - Messianic Jewish Church
2. Smyrna - Oriental Orthodox - The Roman persecutions were ten
3. Pergamos - Greek Orthodox - Pergos... A tower... Needed in the dark ages
4. Thyatira - Catholic - Middle ages
5. Sardis - Protestant - A sardis is a gem... Beautiful,,, Not much spiritually
6. Philadelphia - Wesleyan - Too bad the revivals didn't last longer
7. Laodicean - Word of Faith - Rich and have need of nothing?


Seven candlesticks - Seven generalized congregation - All unique - And Christ walking in the midst
Seven seals - Those names written in the Lambs Book of Life
Seven stars - Those messengers to the congregations

Regarding who is sealed in the Lamb's Book of Life...

3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. - Revelation 5

There is no man who is able to look into the Lamb's Book of Life and figure out whose sealed... unsealed... Or who has never been sealed. All of that is Heavenly business.

21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?
22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.
23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? - John 21

You left out Charles Spurgeon - Baptist.

 

[MatthewG]

When Paul speaks of believers being “sealed unto the day of redemption” (Ephesians 4:30), it is important to read that phrase within the larger biblical storyline and the historical context in which the apostles ministered. Paul was not writing abstract theology detached from the timeline Jesus Himself established. Rather, he consistently anchored his expectations to the same climactic event Christ promised would occur within that generation.

Jesus taught that the culmination of God’s redemptive plan—the gathering of His people, the vindication of the righteous, and the end of the Mosaic age—would take place before the passing of the generation to whom He spoke (Matthew 24:34). He described this moment as the time when redemption would draw near (Luke 21:28). Paul uses the same language when he speaks of the Spirit as the “earnest” or down payment “until the redemption of the purchased possession” (Ephesians 1:14). In other words, the Spirit’s sealing functioned as God’s guarantee that His people would be preserved through the transition from the old covenant world into the fully established new covenant order.

Paul’s letters reflect this expectation. He repeatedly speaks of the approaching “day” as something near, imminent, and relevant to his own audience (Romans 13:11–12; Philippians 4:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:15–17). The writer of Hebrews echoes the same urgency, declaring that Christ’s coming would occur in “a very little while” and would “not tarry” (Hebrews 10:37). These statements make the most sense when understood as referring to the first‑century fulfillment of Jesus’ promises, culminating in the fall of Jerusalem and the end of the temple system in AD 70.

Within this framework, the “day of redemption” is not a distant, undefined event but the decisive moment when Christ completed the redemptive work He began, gathered His people, and brought the old covenant age to its close. The Spirit’s sealing was the divine pledge that believers would be preserved through that transition and fully included in the new creation reality inaugurated by Christ.

This perspective does not diminish the ongoing work of the Spirit in believers today. Rather, it clarifies the original purpose of the sealing language in Paul’s letters and situates it within the historical and covenantal shift that defined the first century. It recognizes that the apostles were not writing in a vacuum—they were interpreting and applying the very timeline Jesus Himself established.

 

[Armour of God]

What are your answers,understanding?

I don't know. That's why I'm asking

 

[MatthewG]

When Paul speaks of believers being “sealed unto the day of redemption” (Ephesians 4:30), it is important to read that phrase within the larger biblical storyline and the historical context in which the apostles ministered. Paul was not writing abstract theology detached from the timeline Jesus Himself established. Rather, he consistently anchored his expectations to the same climactic event Christ promised would occur within that generation.

Jesus taught that the culmination of God’s redemptive plan—the gathering of His people, the vindication of the righteous, and the end of the Mosaic age—would take place before the passing of the generation to whom He spoke (Matthew 24:34). He described this moment as the time when redemption would draw near (Luke 21:28). Paul uses the same language when he speaks of the Spirit as the “earnest” or down payment “until the redemption of the purchased possession” (Ephesians 1:14). In other words, the Spirit’s sealing functioned as God’s guarantee that His people would be preserved through the transition from the old covenant world into the fully established new covenant order.

Paul’s letters reflect this expectation. He repeatedly speaks of the approaching “day” as something near, imminent, and relevant to his own audience (Romans 13:11–12; Philippians 4:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:15–17). The writer of Hebrews echoes the same urgency, declaring that Christ’s coming would occur in “a very little while” and would “not tarry” (Hebrews 10:37). These statements make the most sense when understood as referring to the first‑century fulfillment of Jesus’ promises, culminating in the fall of Jerusalem and the end of the temple system in AD 70.

Within this framework, the “day of redemption” is not a distant, undefined event but the decisive moment when Christ completed the redemptive work He began, gathered His people, and brought the old covenant age to its close. The Spirit’s sealing was the divine pledge that believers would be preserved through that transition and fully included in the new creation reality inaugurated by Christ.

This perspective does not diminish the ongoing work of the Spirit in believers today. Rather, it clarifies the original purpose of the sealing language in Paul’s letters and situates it within the historical and covenantal shift that defined the first century. It recognizes that the apostles were not writing in a vacuum—they were interpreting and applying the very timeline Jesus Himself established.

The reason I raised the issue of turning away from God is because, from my understanding, the Scriptures indicate that the bride has already been taken and gathered. Therefore, I do not believe I need to be “sealed” for the great and dreadful day of Yahavah (Malachi 4:5). The consistent truth throughout Scripture is that people either choose to remain faithful to Yahavah or they turn away from Him, just as I mentioned earlier.

People make their own choices. Yeshua Himself taught that some receive the word, but the cares of this world eventually choke it out. “The cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful” (Matthew 13:22). It’s not that these individuals were never sincere or never belonged to God — rather, their priorities shifted, and they let go of Him. And God, honoring human freedom, allows them to do so. “Choose this day whom you will serve” (Joshua 24:15).

In the first century, there were people who believed in Yeshua but were afraid to openly confess it because of the consequences. “Many even of the rulers believed in Him, but because of the Pharisees they did not confess it, for fear they would be put out of the synagogue” (John 12:42). These individuals were not aligned with the apostles — not truly “of us,” as John wrote: “They went out from us, but they were not of us” (1 John 2:19). Some may have even been false apostles, which Paul warned about (2 Corinthians 11:13). This historical context helps people understand what was happening in that time and why certain statements were made.

I also believe that people today can walk away from God. I do not hold to the doctrine commonly called once saved, always saved. I have no hostility toward those who do — I simply do not personally believe it. Scripture repeatedly shows that faithfulness is a daily choice. “If anyone would come after Me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow Me” (Luke 9:23). Every person must decide whether they will acknowledge and love God and love their neighbor as themselves (Matthew 22:37–39). It really is that straightforward.