If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?

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pittsburghjoe

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So let me get this straight, Premills think GOD is going to Reign Physically on earth and then after a thousand years people will join satan in thinking they could fight GOD. What are you guys smoking???
 
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I have two points to make about the clip....1. the 144k is not a literal number and 2. Even those today calling themselves Jews are not even of the blood line of Israel. They are mostly of the Khazarian converted tribe from about 700-900 AD of the Black Sea, and were dispersed into Europe after a series of conflicts with the Russian tribes.

i showed someone what you wrote and he said this:

"I think they were dispersed long before that.

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Revelation 2:9 KJV https://bible.com/bible/1/rev.2.9.KJV

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Revelation 3:9 KJV https://bible.com/bible/1/rev.3.9.KJV"

He then said to read "Ephesians 2 and Galatians 3"
 
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The con job of Premills is to hide the fact that Israel already had Final Judgment.

To try and make The Law happen again is to say JESUS didn't Fulfill It.
 

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i showed someone what you wrote and he said this:

"I think they were dispersed long before that.

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Revelation 2:9 KJV https://bible.com/bible/1/rev.2.9.KJV

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Revelation 3:9 KJV https://bible.com/bible/1/rev.3.9.KJV"

He then said to read "Ephesians 2 and Galatians 3"
Who are they that were dispersed long before what time?
 

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Jews in the Final Judgment.
I never addressed 'their' dispersion before....Well of course they were dispersed, the remains of Judah and Benjamin before and during and after 70 AD. Those 'few' that survived as slaves and not, who fled into the nations assimilated and lost their identities after about a few generation after 70 AD.
 
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i'm confused on why The HOLY SPIRIT is leaving Premills this blind. They are an inch away from The Truth, but can't let go of being literal.

it's ironic if satan is using this fake Nation of Israel to twist The Truth.

Maybe the "1000" years are over and we are living in the time satan is loosed to deceive the nations.

Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
 
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i'm confused on why The HOLY SPIRIT is leaving Premills this blind. They are an inch away from The Truth, but can't let go of being literal.

it's ironic if satan is using this fake Nation of Israel to twist The Truth.

Maybe the "1000" years are over and we are living in the time satan is loosed to deceive the nations.

Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Excellent point....and it fits....more inquiry needed though....hitting the sack now...
 
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Jesus fulfilled the requirements of the LAW for us. He fulfilled some 300 prophecies but not all them. He will fulfill probably another 300 prophecies whem He returns.

Oh, that's right, you pretend the 70 weeks didn't end, when GOD doesn't Extend Prophecy Times.

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
 

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Excellent point....and it fits....more inquiry needed though....hitting the sack now...

satan is well aware that Jews have been Judged ...so this is his way of sneaking into Christianity. he's got Christians bowing to Jews.
 
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Um Abraham walked that land

He was told he would never own it. But after 400 years his offspring would

Just because abraham looked to a higher place and felt it more special does not negate the fact of what God promised him is real land.

I look at many of Gods promises and things he has given me, Just because I look forward to the eternal ones more than I do the temporal ones does not make the temporal ones not true. They are just as mine as the eternal ones are.
You cannot live in two places at the same time, can you?
 

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So let me get this straight, Premills think GOD is going to Reign Physically on earth and then after a thousand years people will join satan in thinking they could fight GOD. What are you guys smoking???
Revelation 20, with no human additives.
 

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The con job of Premills is to hide the fact that Israel already had Final Judgment.

To try and make The Law happen again is to say JESUS didn't Fulfill It.
So it is better that God just knocks one in the head with an iron rod, and then claim, being knocked out is a better experience of reality?
 

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i'm confused on why The HOLY SPIRIT is leaving Premills this blind. They are an inch away from The Truth, but can't let go of being literal.

it's ironic if satan is using this fake Nation of Israel to twist The Truth.

Maybe the "1000" years are over and we are living in the time satan is loosed to deceive the nations.

Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
So living in the matrix makes everything better? Is reality that harsh?

If you have to say "maybe" about anything, it seems you are the one enjoying wonderland to escape this world, and sin.

Are you saying that you do not take life literally ever?
 

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You cannot live in two places at the same time, can you?
Not sure what this means

Abraham was promised his descendants would receive the land he physically walked on.

But abraham looked to the land he would see at the end of time.

these are two different places. All people are promised the second, eternal abode in heaven who come to faith of any nation (in you shall all the nations of the earth be blessed) through Christ.

The land Abraham walked on was promised only to a selct group of people through only one of abrahams offspring (Isaac) and through one of Isaacs sons (Jacob) and all 12 of Jacob's sons and their offspring as a gift forever. Forever is still going today. Gods gift is irrevocable. so his promise still stands.