In the night I hear voice telling me who will win in 2024

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

As far as I am aware, she was born on US soil which makes her a US Citizen without naturalization.

So was Barry, but the question came when his mom went back to Hawaii to give birth she needed to have been there a certain number of days and wasnt ... hence the forged birth certificate

Yes, she was born in California.... where else do most politicians come from?

 

[Taken]

How do you define natural born citizen?

She was born here, correct?

How the Law of Nations defined Natural Born Citizen. How the Framers understood Natural Born Citizen. How the Supreme Court understood Natural Born Citizen.

A Citizen whose parents were citizens at the time of their birth.

She is a Citizen, but not a natural born citizen.
Her father was a Jamaican citizen at the time of Kamala’s birth.
Her mother was a East Indian citizen at the time of Kamala’s birth.

Obama’s father was not a citizen of the US (ever) or obviously at the times of Barack’s birth.

Jesus’ legal earthly parents were from Nazareth, Galilee…
Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judah…
Wasn’t Jesus the called same His earthly parents….A Nazarene ?

Wouldn’t Obama be a Kenyan-American?
Harris a Jamaican- East Indian-American?

Doesn’t becoming an American Citizen agreeing to ASSIMILATE, rather than try to use influences of OTHER/FOREIGN nations to “CHANGE” America’s ESTABLISHED FIXED STANDARD, that which men Desiring to BE AMERICANS Fought and Died for the Independence from under the British Kingship Rule?

Both of Kamal’s parents and Barack’s father, took advantage of “granted” American Study Opportunities and “granted” work permission…..to WHAT? Entangle, promote Changes in the ESTABLISHED FIXED STANDARD of America, her people, her Liberties?

“Change” FROM Foreign IDEALS was expressly Cautioned Against by the Founder…ESPECIALLY operating WITHIN the Government!

Not much different that what God promoted….
Foreigner’s who wanted to come and live along side Gods People Israel….no problem….UNTIL, they attempted to CHANGE from Gods ESTABLISHED FIXED STANDARD.

 

[Taken]

As far as I am aware, she was born on US soil which makes her a US Citizen without naturalization.

“CITIZEN” is not in question, nor a requirement.

“Natural born Citizen” is the requirement.”

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

I ran across this old article from SNOPES. Chalk it up to trivia because we all know it
is too late. So Kamela very likely cant legitimately be in the Oval office... but the left will do whatever they need to do to get whomever they want, and block whomever they want

Is Barack Obama a Natural-Born Citizen of the U.S.? From June 2008

Is Barack Obama a Natural-Born Citizen of the U.S.?​

CAN OBAMA BE PRESIDENT?

It seems that Barack Obama is not qualified to be president after all for the following reason:

Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between "December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986." Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: "If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawaii being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama's birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn't matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aforementioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

*** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President.

*** Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a U.S. citizen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in Indonesia. Now you can see why Obama's aides stopped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. election law. I think the Gov. of California would be very interested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S. citizen, and it would set precedence. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days.

The rest of the link, after the origins of the about is well worth the read... just for info if nothing else.

 

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I am informed enough to know she... Kamala... is qualified to be president.

Stupidity does not disqualify

Nope.

 

[Naomanos]

How the Law of Nations defined Natural Born Citizen. How the Framers understood Natural Born Citizen. How the Supreme Court understood Natural Born Citizen.

A Citizen whose parents were citizens at the time of their birth.

She is a Citizen, but not a natural born citizen.
Her father was a Jamaican citizen at the time of Kamala’s birth.
Her mother was a East Indian citizen at the time of Kamala’s birth.

Obama’s father was not a citizen of the US (ever) or obviously at the times of Barack’s birth.

Jesus’ legal earthly parents were from Nazareth, Galilee…
Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judah…
Wasn’t Jesus the called same His earthly parents….A Nazarene ?

Wouldn’t Obama be a Kenyan-American?
Harris a Jamaican- East Indian-American?

Doesn’t becoming an American Citizen agreeing to ASSIMILATE, rather than try to use influences of OTHER/FOREIGN nations to “CHANGE” America’s ESTABLISHED FIXED STANDARD, that which men Desiring to BE AMERICANS Fought and Died for the Independence from under the British Kingship Rule?

Both of Kamal’s parents and Barack’s father, took advantage of “granted” American Study Opportunities and “granted” work permission…..to WHAT? Entangle, promote Changes in the ESTABLISHED FIXED STANDARD of America, her people, her Liberties?

“Change” FROM Foreign IDEALS was expressly Cautioned Against by the Founder…ESPECIALLY operating WITHIN the Government!

Not much different that what God promoted….
Foreigner’s who wanted to come and live along side Gods People Israel….no problem….UNTIL, they attempted to CHANGE from Gods ESTABLISHED FIXED STANDARD.

I will agree to disagree.

 

[O'Darby]

Perhaps a dose of reality: https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/...resident-despite-misleading-posts-2023-10-18/.

I know we live in a topsy-turvy world, but does anyone seriously think the Democrats would have allowed Harris to be on the ticket with a candidate as shaky as Biden if there were the slightest legal doubt about her eligibility to President?

God help us if she ever is, but that's a different issue.

 

[Taken]

I will agree to disagree.

I will presume you are disagreeing on your own merits, NOT because you investigated to discover the truth for yourself.

Noting, that has sadly become the norm for Americans to act with feelings rather than a concrete truth.

 

[Naomanos]

I will presume you are disagreeing on your own merits, NOT because you investigated to discover the truth for yourself.

Noting, that has sadly become the norm for Americans to act with feelings rather than a concrete truth.

You do know what they say about assumptions, right?

I have investigated the truth and agree to disagree because my investigation says differently than what you have been saying.

 

[Taken]

You do know what they say about assumptions, right?

I have investigated the truth and agree to disagree because my investigation says differently than what you have been saying.

What sources did you use so I might read them as well?

 

[Naomanos]

What sources did you use so I might read them as well?

"Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution directs that all persons born in the United States are U.S. citizens. This is the case regardless of the tax or immigration status of a person’s parents."

natural born citizen

"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States."

Article II

"Former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley is eligible to be president of the United States as she was born in the country, which makes her a “natural born citizen” under U.S. law, contrary to online posts saying she is ineligible because her immigrant parents were not yet naturalized by the time of her birth.
The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution grants citizenship to all people born in the United States and under its jurisdiction without regard to the parents’ citizenship at the time, according to constitutional scholars."

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/...le-be-president-based-citizenship-2024-01-12/

This is what I have been able to find. There are more articles, but I don't have time to post them all.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

In the night I hear voice telling me who will win in 2024

That's not the Spirit of Truth...

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Wonder what the voices I hear in the night calling my name mean?

Er, you should not be hearing voices.... this is something demons do is try speaking
to people in the night to get them to agree with an accept foolish garbage