Is God Really All Loving?

[April_Rose]

Misunderstanding/misinterpreting will no doubt take a path that is prickly. Using language which misrepresents the reality in order to shore up one's position is a dangerous pursuit.....morphing meanings is doubly as slippery.

Self honesty requires courage with courage being the ability to recognise and admit a misstep when it occurs.

For once could you please use plain English? You know laymans terms?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I'm taking you off ignore because I saw this when I was logged and I realized that I didn't explain myself that well. What I meant by questioning whether or not God was all loving was that does God love everything we do and love the way we behave at all times and my answer to that was a definite no. Just like any parent of course. You can bet that He also doesn't love what this country is turning into. He gave us all free will, so you can bet that it's extremely important to Him that we keep it just as much as it's extremely important to us to keep America free. Also, forgot to tag @historyb on this thread.

Like any loving good Father to his children he will not be free love ? Love is deeper than the love that most talk about nowadays as being what maybe called free love.
Free love is not love at all. that is called licenced or something other love.
All love is open to the new age people, it's free love licence to Sin.

A father has authority over his family and this is due to love for them, now he may be harsh when times need be but that's because he truly had love for you by rights, he has to guide his family best for the long run just like with tending a Garden keeping the weeds out etc.
The Bible points out about the Garden story and in this we see that the tenants their of and what they did, much like today it was controlled by ungodly men and then God sent out his Prophets and they killed them and then he sent out his only begotten Son and they killed him and then God kicked them out of the Land.
So we see under Gods love, you must reside in him or if you reside in the works of man well then you are to reap what you sow, so that points out that ungodly people are a curse on to all, such people are trash that truly only work to undermine all around them, not so much that it's there intent, but because of there Sinful nature leading them astray and they reject Gods love for their own desires that they claim to be love and so we see such in their works nowadays, with Gay pride nonsense and I can point out the so called, 'safe schools' program that is truly only deranged form of child abuse, now I understand where they are coming from on this topic and it's a Socialist Political Correctness program and we all know under such that their foundations deem everyone equal ? so within such a context everyone is in fact condemned as the lowest denominator type of person, so this is where they are coming from with your children, all children are indoctrinated from the level that everyone is the lowest denominator, it's a mans works inspired working and using the lowest denominator to conduct there madness and enslave everyone under the same banner.
I will explain such more so, when PC Socialist look at you they see nothing above but a case of a child molester or any deranged filthy creep, so they indoctrinate the child for that program. it's a system that gives them brownie points in the eyes of fools, sure it's good on that point in the case of the lowest denominator, but why should we all be classed as such ? not to mention that when we look into the program that we can see that such is doing injury to the children for their mental health is being bastardised in the program, sure I understand the program but I also understand the real intent of such Socialist, it's foundations come under the same sort of strain of programing that the Nazis used and the Communist used in fact, only coming from a different angle, but coming from the family of pox same nonetheless.

I understand were the godless person is coming from, they have no hope of faith so they have to make up a utopian world because they fear so much and a lot have came from trash family's, so they know no better that to push for such nonsense.

 

[April_Rose]

Like any loving good Father to his children he will not be free love ? Love is deeper than the love that most talk about nowadays as being what maybe called free love.
Free love is not love at all. that is called licenced or something other love.
All love is open to the new age people, it's free love licence to Sin.

A father has authority over his family and this is due to love for them, now he may be harsh when times need be but that's because he truly had love for you by rights, he has to guide his family best for the long run just like with tending a Garden keeping the weeds out etc.
The Bible points out about the Garden story and in this we see that the tenants their of and what they did, much like today it was controlled by ungodly men and then God sent out his Prophets and they killed them and then he sent out his only begotten Son and they killed him and then God kicked them out of the Land.
So we see under Gods love, you must reside in him or if you reside in the works of man well then you are to reap what you sow, so that points out that ungodly people are a curse on to all, such people are trash that truly only work to undermine all around them, not so much that it's there intent, but because of there Sinful nature leading them astray and they reject Gods love for their own desires that they claim to be love and so we see such in their works nowadays, with Gay pride nonsense and I can point out the so called, 'safe schools' program that is truly only deranged form of child abuse, now I understand where they are coming from on this topic and it's a Socialist Political Correctness program and we all know under such that their foundations deem everyone equal ? so within such a context everyone is in fact condemned as the lowest denominator type of person, so this is where they are coming from with your children, all children are indoctrinated from the level that everyone is the lowest denominator, it's a mans works inspired working and using the lowest denominator to conduct there madness and enslave everyone under the same banner.
I will explain such more so, when PC Socialist look at you they see nothing above but a case of a child molester or any deranged filthy creep, so they indoctrinate the child for that program. it's a system that gives them brownie points in the eyes of fools, sure it's good on that point in the case of the lowest denominator, but why should we all be classed as such ? not to mention that when we look into the program that we can see that such is doing injury to the children for their mental health is being bastardised in the program, sure I understand the program but I also understand the real intent of such Socialist, it's foundations come under the same sort of strain of programing that the Nazis used and the Communist used in fact, only coming from a different angle, but coming from the family of pox same nonetheless.

I understand were the godless person is coming from, they have no hope of faith so they have to make up a utopian world because they fear so much and a lot have came from trash family's, so they know no better that to push for such nonsense.

So in other words in Layman's terms?

 

[dev553344]

Where did you see in my post that says God kills anyone?
Do you work for CNN?

God in fact kills though when it is good to do so:

Deuteronomy 32:39


King James Version


39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

 

[Heart2Soul]

God in fact kills though when it is good to do so:

Deuteronomy 32:39
Yes, I know, but this post is replying to another member saying something to the matter.

King James Version


39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

 

[amigo de christo]

For once could you please use plain English? You know laymans terms?

SISTER , please sit down for one second . I read his post and thought the same thing . It sounds like he is trying so hard to sound smart .
Like one of those who looks up words in a dictionary and then dont quite know how to use them . I am not making fun of him in any way .
But man , the fellow acts like he is sigumund freud with a dictionary .

 

[April_Rose]

SISTER , please sit down for one second . I read his post and thought the same thing . It sounds like he is trying so hard to sound smart .
Like one of those who looks up words in a dictionary and then dont quite know how to use them . I am not making fun of him in any way .
But man , the fellow acts like he is sigumund freud with a dictionary .

Yeah I hardly have any clue what he's talking about but I'm glad that it's not just me then. XD

 

[ve1nhb]

I always thought Love was an interesting word with God. Did God love Job? Did He love Job's family even tho he basically wipes them out without a thought? I have always thought this was uncomfortable asking questions about. Maybe someday I will understand it.

 

[Truman]

Sorry if there was already a topic created about this but @Bobby Jo and I were just talking about this privately and I finally thought of how to make it into a topic. (Ironically I was also just reading something in the Bible yesterday about how somebody wanted God to "calm down" even though His anger is always sinless.) Anyways, we were also just recently talking about on here how christianforums.com is pretty much a socialist liberalist website and we have a lot of former members on here. (@Heart2Soul and @Taken I want you to see this thread too.)





They believe that God is all loving, all accepting, and don't believe in the second amendment or that anybody should hold any accountability for their actions. That's where I have to say that I don't know what Bible they're reading, or why they think that they're promoting equality and freedom in America, but I think that they are absolutely one hundred percent crazy!! I got BANNED and SILENCED when I tried standing up to them and for my rights as an American and that really ticked me off!!

I think a true liberal allows everyone to choose what they believe. That's what liberal means...to this left-of-center liberal. Lol "You may not agree with me but I'll defend your right to disagree with me!" - I think the only problem with God is our understanding of Him. I believe He's better than any of us can understand. Shalom.

 

[Brakelite]

"Is God Really All Loving?"
Of course not. He hated Esau.

Hate isn't the opposite or even a denial of love.

 

[Brakelite]

I always thought Love was an interesting word with God. Did God love Job? Did He love Job's family even tho he basically wipes them out without a thought? I have always thought this was uncomfortable asking questions about. Maybe someday I will understand it.

The book of Job explains who was responsible for the deaths of Job's family and the other calamities that hurt him. And it wasn't God and it certainly want without any thought.

 

[April_Rose]

I think a true liberal allows everyone to choose what they believe. That's what liberal means...to this left-of-center liberal. Lol "You may not agree with me but I'll defend your right to disagree with me!" - I think the only problem with God is our understanding of Him. I believe He's better than any of us can understand. Shalom.

Shalom? Please don't take this the wrong way or anything but isn't that what they say in the middle east?

 

[Truman]

Shalom? Please don't take this the wrong way or anything but isn't that what they say in the middle east?

Shalom is an ancient Hebrew word that means peace, harmony, wholeness, completeness, prosperity, welfare, and tranquility. It also means peace between us and God. When I say this, I mean that I desire all these things for you.
Jesus/Yashua is the fulfillment of this.
The reason I started using this term, apart from the above reasons, was to remind myself that I am of Hebrew descent.
Until God told me this, I had no idea.
My ancestors were the northern kingdom of the house of Israel, not to be confused with the southern kingdom of the house of Judah who are today's Jews.
2,700 years ago Yahweh exiled my people for worshiping fallen angels and idols. He said we would forget who we were and that the world would forget we ever existed. These things have come to pass.
However, He said that in the last days He would wake us up to who we are. He started this process with me 24 years ago.
To say this is a controversial subject is an understatement.
I bear witness that Elohim (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) is faithful to His promises, slow they may be in coming.
I am descended from the tribe of Levi.
We are known as the lost ten tribes (or the lost sheep) of the house of Israel. Shalom.

 

[April_Rose]

Shalom is an ancient Hebrew word that means peace, harmony, wholeness, completeness, prosperity, welfare, and tranquility. It also means peace between us and God. When I say this, I mean that I desire all these things for you.

Gee,.. thanks!! Shalom to you as well.

 

[JesusLovesYou]

Where do you get the idea God doesn't kill anyone? God has killed a lot of people. The flood is an example of that. The final plague in Egypt is another. Ananias and Sapphira are two more.

God does kill. In the final judgement God sends non-believers to the lake of fire. Technically I suppose that's not killing them cause they are there for eternal judgement.

There is a difference between punishment and judgement. Punishment is meant to correct and bring one back in the relationship with God. This is what God does so that we do not get to be judged. Judgement is the final verdict. This is what happened in the time of Noah and what will happen as described in the Revelation.

 

[kcnalp]

knalp...you don't see regarding this matter because you don't ask. You interpret with limited information which appears to you conclusive.

Have you read Revelation? It's HELL on Earth.

 

[kcnalp]

Hate isn't the opposite or even a denial of love.

And that's your opinion.

 

[amadeus]

God in fact kills though when it is good to do so:

Deuteronomy 32:39


King James Version


39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

Indeed there is a time to love or to hate as well as a time kill or to heal:

"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace." Ecc 3:1-8

But no man alone knows always when or whether to do one or the other of any on them. We need help from the one who is Love!

"O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps" Jerem 10:23

"O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!" Psalm 119:5

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." Rom 8:14

"And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him." I John 4:16

The Love that God is Not the love that so many men speak of...is it?

 

[Brakelite]

And that's your opinion.

Not at all. The opposite of love is selfishness. Love is the antonym for sin. Sin is selfishness. Think about it. It is grammatically, linguistically, and biblically acceptable. Yet one can hate and love the one person at the same time. You could dislike the person next door intensely, even hate him, yet because you are faithful you choose to love your neighbor and pray for him, your enemy.

 

[Brakelite]

Indeed there is a time to love or to hate as well as a time kill or to heal:

"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace." Ecc 3:1-8

But no man alone knows always when or whether to do one or the other of any on them. We need help from the one who is Love!

"O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps" Jerem 10:23

"O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!" Psalm 119:5

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." Rom 8:14

"And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him." I John 4:16

The Love that God is Not the love that so many men speak of...is it?

It is the love of God for the lost that keeps them out of heaven and destined for destruction. Despite all that God has done for them, despite the gospel and the ministry of angels to convict and convince them of truth and righteousness and sin, the lost have hardened their hearts to all that is good and true and right to such an extent that heaven would be agony for them. The company of holy angels, the presence of the living God, would bee for them torture. So in mercy God grants them that which they choose...death.