Is God Sending Republican Voters a Message?

[justbyfaith]

Don't be absurd. My opinion is this country will be destroyed by another four years of Trump. We can all see how bad things have gotten with him in office; but his supporters pretend he's not really able to do anything. Somehow other people are holding the reins of power. Why not admit it? Trump doesn't know what he's doing.

The tragedy for me is that I agree with him on some things; but he doesn't know how to get things done by cooperating with others. Everything is about him and trying to make himself look good. He's turned what should be serious discussions to reach a consensus into a struggle to prove his own dominance. He's turned the government into a circus -- and the "liberal media" lap it up since they love covering the melodrama.

The liberal media won't give him a break, even for a second...he can do nothing right in their eyes.

With so many people against him, it is no wonder that he doesn't try to solve things by bringing them to a place of discussion...if he did do that, anything and everything that he stands for would be immediately opposed by all of the liberals in the government; and nothing would be accomplished.

 

[Giuliano]

It is only obvious that Trump was not responsible for jobs being lost; but that the coronavirus is responsible.

Ah, so when things go right, Trump gets all the credit; but when they go wrong, he never gets any of the blame. Is that how it goes?

Has it occurred to you that the economy had been improving under Obama and probably would have kept improving no matter who got elected President?

We could also argue over how Trump handled the corornavirus situation. Perhaps things wouldn't have been as bad as the got if he had known how to handle the coronavirus better. The question moving forward is if he knows what he's doing now. If he doesn't, we can expect to see some smaller businesses close permanently and thus more people permanently out of jobs.

 

[justbyfaith]

Why did you introduce "Canaan" into the question?

The reason for COVID-19 affecting black people is not racism. They cannot blame white people for their poverty. These things are the judgment of the Lord on Canaan all the way back in Genesis 9:25.​

Some race is descended from Canaan and Ham, and whatever race that is is cursed into being the servants of the other races.

Whatever race that is, cannot blame the people of those other races for their plight; but they can blame their ancestor Canaan who brought that curse upon them.

 

[justbyfaith]

Ah, so when things go right, Trump gets all the credit; but when they go wrong, he never gets any of the blame. Is that how it goes?

No, how it goes is that when things go wrong, Trump gets all the blame; but when they go right, he gets none of the credit.

For this is how the liberal media treats our President.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Reread my post. I acknowledged it when I wrote, "The problem you have is trying to give Trump credit for the time when jobs were being created but passing the buck when jobs were being lost." Saying I hate Trump so much I can't acknowledge it is obviously false. Your problem may be you see only what you want to see. You are not making sense.

Passing the buck? Millions of jobs were lost when Democrats forced his hand to call a shut-down! Some Democrats would rather tear this country to shreds than to see him stay in the White House. The onus is on them. It's all political.

Saying I hate Trump so much I can't acknowledge it is obviously false. Your problem may be you see only what you want to see. You are not making sense.

You're saying you don't hate Trump? Your posts that mock him say otherwise. I've never seen you say a positive thing about him, and that's okay, but the mocking has been unbelievable.
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[Giuliano]

The liberal media won't give him a break, even for a second...he can do nothing right in their eyes.

With so many people against him, it is no wonder that he doesn't try to solve things by bringing them to a place of discussion...if he did do that, anything and everything that he stands for would be immediately opposed by all of the liberals in the government; and nothing would be accomplished.

And according to you, Trump is perfect and can do no wrong.

Trump has mostly himself to blame for having so many people against him. When he calls the media, the "enemy of the people," of course they're not to look at him with friendly eyes. Of course, they'll paint him as an enemy of the free press.

Trump could be like Pharoah leading his army into the sea; and you'd blame Moses for it.

 

[justbyfaith]

Ah, so when things go right, Trump gets all the credit; but when they go wrong, he never gets any of the blame. Is that how it goes?

Has it occurred to you that the economy had been improving under Obama and probably would have kept improving no matter who got elected President?

We could also argue over how Trump handled the corornavirus situation. Perhaps things wouldn't have been as bad as the got if he had known how to handle the coronavirus better. The question moving forward is if he knows what he's doing now. If he doesn't, we can expect to see some smaller businesses close permanently and thus more people permanently out of jobs.

My understanding is that he wanted to open the states for commerce long before they were actually allowed to open; and that these smaller businesses may close permanently because of opposition to this by the liberal democrats.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

And according to you, Trump is perfect and can do no wrong.

That's an out-and-out lie. I've never said this because I don't believe it. I have criticized his policies on this forum, but I guess you missed those posts, huh?

 

[justbyfaith]

And according to you, Trump is perfect and can do no wrong.

Nope. I understand that the man has his flaws. People are not being obedient to the scriptural command, "Thou shalt not speak evil of a ruler of your people," however.

Trump has mostly himself to blame for having so many people against him. When he calls the media, the "enemy of the people," of course they're not to look at him with friendly eyes. Of course, they'll paint him as an enemy of the free press.

Trump could be like Pharoah leading his army into the sea; and you'd blame Moses for it.

So now Trump is like Pharaoh and the liberal media is likened unto Moses?

I understand that this "Black lives matter" thing is giving them a certain degree of power because they now have a martyr to make their causes more acceptable.

But the above statement is still very unfeasible.

 

[Giuliano]

Passing the buck? Millions of jobs were lost when Democrats forced his hand to call a shut-down! Some Democrats would rather tear this country to shreds than to see him stay in the White House. The onus is on them. It's all political.

I thought Trump was President with all the powers of the presidency. I didn't know the Democrats could force him to do anything. And people want to give him another four years after being a puppet of the Democrats?

You're saying you don't hate Trump? Your posts that have mocked him say otherwise. I've never seen you say a positive thing about him, and that's okay, but the mocking has been unbelievable.

He makes himself an easy mark for humor. I've never seen a President before him who could do and say such foolish things and then wonder why people think he's foolish. What should I do when he says things like he's a stable genius? Nod approvingly? Ha, I'm going to laugh at the pride.

Proverbs 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

 

[Giuliano]

That's an out-and-out lie. I've never said this because I don't believe it. I have criticized his policies on this forum, but I guess you missed those posts, huh?

Then why get so bent when I criticize him?

 

[Giuliano]

Nope. I understand that the man has his flaws. People are not being obedient to the scriptural command, "Thou shalt not speak evil of a ruler of your people," however.

In the United States, the people are sovereign. The people rule.

So now Trump is like Pharaoh and the liberal media is like Moses?

I think Trump is like Pharaoh with a group of followers who will follow him no matter what. They do remind me Pharoah's army blindly obeying a tyrant who valued only his own position and didn't care if his army perished. If he perished, they could perish with him.

I wouldn't point to any one person as being Moses in the current situation. I was just asking you if you would blame Moses when Pharoah's army obeyed him.

 

[justbyfaith]

I've never seen a President before him who could do and say such foolish things and then wonder why people think he's foolish. What should I do when he says things like he's a stable genius? Nod approvingly?

The office of President deserves a certain amount of respect that goes with the office.

Showing disrespect to him is disobedience to the biblical command that we find in Acts 23:5 and elsewhere.

 

[justbyfaith]

think Trump is like Pharaoh with a group of followers who will follow him no matter what. They do remind me Pharoah's army blindly obeying a tyrant who valued only his own position and didn't care if his army perished.

I think that if you consider the alternative in this upcoming election, you would vote for Trump as the lesser of two evils.

Biden is certainly not the Moses to his Pharaoh. If anything, it is the other way around.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

I thought Trump was President with all the powers of the presidency. I didn't know the Democrats could force him to do anything. And people want to give him another four years after being a puppet of the Democrats?

Oh, really? You didn't hear the Dems condemning him for not acting quickly enough, as if Trump himself had infected people with COVID-19...? I heard it!

He makes himself an easy mark for humor. I've never seen a President before him who could do and say such foolish things and then wonder why people think he's foolish. What should I do when he says things like he's a stable genius? Nod approvingly? Ha, I'm going to laugh at the pride.

And like I told you in your "Let's Mock Trump" thread a while back, I don't have a problem with poking fun at politicians, but your thread was downright hateful. Well, as far as presidents doing foolish things, you didn't see Obama bowing to foreign leaders? This was show of weakness to these other nations.
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[justbyfaith]

Has it occurred to you that the economy had been improving under Obama and probably would have kept improving no matter who got elected President?

Trump's expertise is in the economy...and he has done a good job of reviving it before, and will do so again if re-elected.

 

[Giuliano]

Trump's expertise is in the economy...and he has done a good job of reviving it before, and will do so again if re-elected.

How many times did his businesses go bankrupt? He did graduate from Wharton, but I don't know how much of it sank in. Most of his ventures have been in somewhat dubious businesses like casinos and building luxury hotels and the like. We can thank him, for example, for having the first casino with strippers. He's good at "selling" glamor and glitz. I think some of his businesses right now are in trouble.

 

[Giuliano]

Oh, really? You didn't hear the Dems condemning him for not acting quickly enough, as if Trump himself had infected people with COVID-19...? I heard it!

Nope. I heard Democrats criticizing him when he did finally decide to take action. Funny how you want to discuss Democrats -- I remind you Trump is President.

And like I told you in your "Let's Mock Trump" thread a while back, I don't have a problem with poking fun at politicians, but your thread was downright hateful. Well, as far as presidents doing foolish things, you didn't see Obama bowing to foreign leaders? This was show of weakness to these other nations.

Back to the past again? Why do people try to avoid what's happening now by rehashing the past? I wouldn't put too much importance on Obama bowing to royalty if he thought it was the polite thing to do. Maybe Trump would be better off by showing respect to other people and stop trying to aggrandize himself all the time.

 

[Giuliano]

The office of President deserves a certain amount of respect that goes with the office.

Showing disrespect to him is disobedience to the biblical command that we find in Acts 23:5 and elsewhere.

That was the High Priest who had been consecrated to his office. Jesus also showed respect for the High Priest. Donald Trump is no High Priest. When I show respect for the President, I'm showing respect for the American people who put him in office.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Nope. I heard Democrats criticizing him when he did finally decide to take action.

Must not be watching the media that covered this. I heard it.

Back to the past again? Why do people try to avoid what's happening now by rehashing the past? I wouldn't put too much importance on Obama bowing to royalty if he thought it was the polite thing to do. Maybe Trump would be better off by showing respect to other people and stop trying to aggrandize himself all the time.

Lol, I was responding to something you said.

It's fine with me if Obama wants to bow or grovel, but he put our nation in a position of weakness by doing so as POTIS, IMO. On the other hand, I believe that Trump has put us in danger at times by his bravado. There, I criticized Trump; now you can criticize some Democrat, and we'll be even, lol!