Is it possible to lose salvation?

[ScottA]

Why isn't Acts 2;38, repent and be baptized....et al, proper guidance....?
Please explain your reason?

It is...but it doesn't say "water."

 

[Brakelite]

How can you LOSE eternal life?
How can you LOSE the promise you will never perish
How can you LOSE the idea that you will never hunger or thirst. and be assured Gods promise he will raise you on the last day
How can you LOSE the fact you who were dead are made alive. Not by works of righteousness which you do. But By Gods Mercy
How do you Lose the seal of the spirit. Gods seal placed upon you until the day of redemption (resurrections day)
How can you Lose the fact you have been adopted into Gods family. does he just kick you out on the streets and say do not come back?

more importantly., The wage of sin is death, How can you add any work, or works to make up for one sin. And finally Gods requirement is perfection. If you can not meet Gods standard at any time. How can you fall back below it to lose salvation.

You can lose it by acting against your own conscience. Read 1 Corinthians 8. Paul is writing about a man of faith who is influenced by a teaching that was contrary to his conscience. Whether right or wrong made no difference. He sinned against what he thought to be right. We must, and this goes for everyone, live fully up to the light we have and understand. If we believe something to be wrong according to conscience, like smoking for example, but smoke because you meet a Christian who smokes, you have sinned. And as Paul said, the Christian was the cause of him perishing.

 

[Brakelite]

I know you know this, whenever someone's interpretations of passages conflicts with plainly stated, clearly written Scripture, we know their understanding is incomplete.

One of my favorite passages concerning this topic is the one you alluded to, that He has sealed us unto the day of redemption. He's paid for us, and put His seal of ownership on us, sealed to show we are His property, to preserve His right of possession until the day He comes to retrieve His purchased possession. Who is able to unseal what God has sealed? No one!

Much love!

God can unseal. They can be removed from the Book of Life if they are unfaithful.

 

[Brakelite]

Nonsense.

Salvation is Jesus......
He is our Salvation., and that is why He is titled : Savior.

And where is Jesus, regarding the Born again?

He is : "CHRIST IN YOU, the Hope of Glory".. (Glory is heaven).

So, Christ is now IN the born again, which means that the born again Spirit is now "ONE wtih God".

THIS is the proof of Salvaiton, and its the STATE and STATUS of Salvation, and its ETERNAL.

What is Salvation, as related to ADAM the 1st?

its the restoation of ETERNAL spiritual UNION between God and man, that is created by the finished work of Jesus on The Cross.

This restored Spiritual Union between a forgiven SINNER and Holy God, is ETERNAL, because its created by This.......

A.) = "Jesus is the ONE TIME.........ETERNAL........sacrifice for sin".......because "God hath made JESUS... to be sin for us".

@Wick Stick is correct. It is a ridiculous notion to teach that faithfulness and obedience is now acceptable when it was faithlessness and disobedience that caused the death of the Son of God.

 

[marks]

God can unseal. They can be removed from the Book of Life if they are unfaithful.

The way I see it, God's purpose will stand. There is nothing in the Scriptures that I've seen telling us God will remove His ownership seal from those whom He has purchased.

Consider . . . as God has crucified our flesh with Jesus on the cross, are you saying God will resurrect our flesh back to life so we can live in it as though never regenerated?

We are not saved because of our works, we won't become "unsaved" because of our works.

Consider also,

Romans 5:6-10 KJV
6) For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
7) For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
8) But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9) Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10) For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Much love!

 

[GRACE ambassador]

The way I see it, God's purpose will stand. There is nothing in the Scriptures that I've seen telling us God will remove His ownership seal from those whom He has purchased.

Consider . . . as God has crucified our flesh with Jesus on the cross, are you saying God will resurrect our flesh back to life so we can live in it as though never regenerated?

We are not saved because of our works, we won't become "unsaved" because of our works.

Consider also,

Romans 5:6-10 KJV
6) For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
7) For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
8) But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9) Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10) For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Much love!

Amen!

And, Also Consider The Confirming [ And Harmonious ] Biblical Evidence Of The
Bema Judgment Seat Of Christ For All His 'Grace Through Faith' "Sealed " members:

ALL Sealed members? - "What Saith The Scriptures?":

"Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus,​

called saints, with all that in every place call upon The Name of Jesus Christ our Lord,​

both theirs and ours:" (1 Corinthians 1:2 AV)​

Including All Unspiritual and carnal 'babes' as Sealed members? - "What Saith The Scriptures?":

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"And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal,​

even as unto babes In Christ." 1 Corinthians 3:1 AV)​

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Including All Unfaithful/carnal/sinning Sealed babe(s)? - "What Saith The Scriptures?":

"It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is​

not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.​

And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed​

might be taken away from among you. For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit,​

have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,​

In The Name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the​

Power of our Lord Jesus Christ, To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the​

flesh, that the spirit may be Saved ​

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In The Day Of the Lord Jesus." (1 Corinthians 5:1-5 AV)​

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Final Biblical Confirmation???:

The Judgment Seat Of Christ:​

"Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall​

receive his own reward according to his own labour. For we are labourers​

together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.​

According to The Grace Of God Which Is Given Unto me, as a wise masterbuilder,​

I have laid The Foundation, and another buildeth Thereon. But let every man take​

heed how he buildeth Thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than that​

is laid, Which Is Jesus Christ.​

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Now if any man build upon This Foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay,​

stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest: for The Day Shall Declare it, because​

it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.​

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If any man's work abide which he hath built Thereupon, he shall receive a reward.​

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If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: But he himself Shall Be Saved;​

yet so as by fire." (1 Corinthians 3:8-15 cp Unbelievers Judgment in Rev 20:11-15 AV)​

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Thus God's Holy, Preserved , and Truthful Scriptures Disagree with Every critic, eh? ✓

Amen. God's Grace And Peace to all !

 

[Wick Stick]

@Wick Stick is correct. It is a ridiculous notion to teach that faithfulness and obedience is now acceptable when it was faithlessness and disobedience that caused the death of the Son of God.

Did I say that? I don't think I've responded here since about page 5?

I thought I framed it in terms of adoption. Where God has adopted, the only way to break that is to have another adoption... to become someone else's child.

Not impossible. But it's not likely to happen unless one makes a concerted effort to do so.

 

[Wick Stick]

The way I see it, God's purpose will stand. There is nothing in the Scriptures that I've seen telling us God will remove His ownership seal from those whom He has purchased.

Elsewhere, the "seal" is referred to as an "earnest." An earnest is a down payment on something, but it does include the idea that the transaction can be canceled. Albeit, if the transaction IS canceled, the earnest is typically forfeit by the buyer. There is some idea of an incomplete transaction there, and in "he who endures to the end shall be saved."

I still see it more in terms of adoption, though. Election pertains to the group - to the children of Abraham and his Seed. To "lose" salvation, one would have to leave that group. That isn't something that happens by chance, or because of a few bad decisions.

Even leaving may not be sufficient. One would have to join another, competing group. For instance, if one was to leave Christianity and become a convert to Islam... I think that might do the trick... although, Islam still traces its Genesis back to Abraham.