Use Google. You can find images of most everything I've said (the forged documents, etc). Believe me, there's entire websites dedicated to this stuff.
Is Obama An American?
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tomwebster
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Check out the vidio from O's own mouth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player_embedded#!
Here's another one, First Lady slips up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk3OMRqO7aY
The only people that are crazies are the people that can ignore all this stuff and not say it needs to be checked out.
But I do agree it's too late now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk3OMRqO7aY
The only people that are crazies are the people that can ignore all this stuff and not say it needs to be checked out.
But I do agree it's too late now.
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mikefaulkner
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I still agree with an earlier statement and one that I have heard on many forums. If he was born here and he had nothing to hide then why wouldn't he just go ahead and let it be known by showing his records. There is only two reasons why he wouldn't and that would be if 1) he was not born int he US or any of its held territories or an army base which is considered US Ground. or 2) he is part of the Witness Protection Program for a reason that we the people don't need to know about. Either way its all fishy and until he produces his papers he wont be generally accepted.
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Choir Loft
Your question is based upon the assumption that American law is based upon the US Constitution.
It is not.
The Constitution is a museum piece and has no bearing upon the exercise of Federal law, individual rights, or elections.
American elections are more like a crooked sporting event; including bribery, dishonest voting & ballot counting (dead people vote here all the time), participants/candidates that do not have valid credentials and cheering sections that have no idea why they are raving....they just like to yell a lot.....and oh yes let's not forget that the outcome is decided before the event takes place.
"The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do."
Joseph Stalin
Non-freaking-sense.
You give someone enough kickbacks and money they'll do anything you want.
The SC won't even HEAR a legitimate case about his birth. What's that tell you? That's their FREAKING JOB! And they refuse to do it.
You also ignore the fact that it's a PROVEN FACT that his Selective Service card was forged. "They've checked him out"... LOL... No they haven't. They're avoiding doing that (again, the SC)
Proven fact? You mean rumors on the internet.
And I disagree about the kickbacks and bribes.
The idea that hundreds of special agents in the secret service, the FBI, as well as hundreds of other background investigators would all accept bribes is more ridiculous than any of these Obama conspiracy theories.
Also wouldn't it be suspicious that hundreds of people in these agencies all of a sudden became rich?
I stand by my previous statement that the intel analyst, background investigators, and special agents of this country would not ALL accept bribes to keep hush about a presidential candidates past.
It's not like 2 or 3 people have access to Obama's historical information and have been paid millions to keep it secret. There are thousands of agents and investigators who have done the research on him.
These are all only rumors that keep spreading around the internet.
I didn't vote for him, and I disagree with his stance on issues, but these conspiracy theories are ridiculous.
No, I mean with basic education you can see for yourself it's a fact.
Obama said, "I registered with the Selective Service in 1980". Let's verify that.
Here's a copy of it:
The first thing that proves he at least lied about it is the document ID number (see it?) It's from 2008. Not 1980.
The second thing- notice the date he signed it. July 30. Notice the Postal seal certifying it. July 29. They certified it before he even signed it? LOL...
The third thing- is the postal stamp used was discontinued in 1970.
The fourth thing- shows Obama didn't have an ID.
Then there's other issues as well. No printout page, no selective service number, the FOIA response was dated prior to the FIOA request.
Sorry, but it's a lie.
You can chose to bury your head and the sand and believe that our government isn't run by a bunch of corrupted, greedy bastards but the facts are against you.
Ever hear of the Cornhusker Kickback? Look it up. They openly gave kickbacks to the Nebraska Senator so he'd vote for Health Scare. It's corruption run rampant- they even do it openly now.
Actually, that's happened.
Take, for instance, the porno scanners in the airports. Is it simply coincidence that the top executives making the scanners were all ex-NSA officials? That now profit from the policies they set in motion?
Why would the SC not hear cases on his birth? It's their job. They should want to. Unless they've been bribed to do differently.
Maybe they aren't bribed but they are certainly backing the lie of his birth by not even choosing to look into it.
Oh I agree with you about the corruption! lol Of course there are tons of politicians throughout our government that are "corrupted, greedy bastards" as you call them, but I wasn't talking about politicians. I was talking about the special agents, investigators, and analysts. I know a lot of these people and they DON'T do those jobs for the money lol. The money is ok, but 99% of them do that job because it's what they love, and because they love America and hate injustice.
Politicians? Yes, they plot and plan and bribe and do all that corrupt stuff to get $$ and to stay in power for longer and to get their friends in power because they love power and money.
And I just have a hard time believing that hundreds of people have all kept their mouths shut just so that one guy could become president. Not everyone in those positions are democrats.
I don't know for sure though, maybe you're right, it could all be true, I just have a hard time looking closely at conspiracy theories.
The people you know do what they're told. They don't deal with this stuff.
It only took one corrupted fool to stitch his Selective Service document together. It doesn't take a team of people.
It's not about Democrats vs Republicans. George W Bush was in on this, too. (He was the one that lied about war). This crap has been going on for a long time. George HW Bush even talked about the New World Order nonsense.
The D v. R argument is simply a distraction to keep people from noticing the real puppet masters.
This should be proof of the last election. We kick Bush out of office, and get in a Democrat- YAYYYYY the people say... But it's more of the same exact stuff. With the exception of more socialism there's no difference between the two administrations.
We'll kick Obama out and people will be YAYYYYYY again... And we'll turn around and elect another Progressive Commie that has an "R" after his name that's no better.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm just not stupid. The Selective Service thing. The guy is not a US Citizen. It's a big freaking coverup. Maybe he IS a citizen and all these false documents have a legitimate explanation, but the question becomes: WHY doesn't he explain them? Seems like you'd shut alot of people like me up if you could explain them. But he can't.
There are elements to 9/11 that were fabricated. I don't believe we blew the buildings up. But we just *happened* to have moved BILLIONS of dollars worth of Gold out of there the day before? BILLIONS of dollars of that Gold went missing, too.
We just *happened* to have printed BILLIONS of dollars worth of paper currency in error a few months ago? We printed BILLIONS before finding the error? And we shipped it out without catching it? And we have no records or logs to tell us where it's at? So in other words, we have BILLIONS of "bad" dollars out there that just vanished (More like- in the basement of the Treasury Secretary).
I don't know if you heard about this, but the DOJ and the ATF were caught smuggling guns over the boarder to Mexico in order to pad the numbers to make their case of "The Mexicans are getting their guns from us" better.
Corruption, lies, all through the government. I'm not a conspiracy theories, I can just see the facts and see there's something going on that they have a need to lie about.
I was trying to have a civilized debate with you and even admitted that you might be right and you spew this at me?
I didn't mean conspiracy theories to be a negative term. I believe in a few conspiracy theories myself, I just think that if there is a theory about a possible conspiracy going on, and you believe it's true, then you're a conspiracy theorist!
I'm going to stop debating about this stuff now because apparently anyone who doesn't agree with you 100% is "stupid"
I didn't mean to call you stupid. I'm saying I'd be stupid if I ignored factual evidence. I don't ignore it, therefore, I'm not stupid.
I also don't make up stuff like conspiracy theorists do, therefore, I'm not stupid.
I educate myself on the matter. I can't turn a blind eye to it nor can I make it into something it's not.
I will just say this about what we're told by the Government: I have seen so many lies that I no longer trust ANYTHING they tell us. It's got to be proven truthful before I'll trust it.
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Choir Loft
Back to the OP.......
Mr. Obama's American pedigree doesn't seem to be the issue in my mind.
Whether he ACTS with the best interests of our nation in mind.....IS.
Is there any debate on that matter?
Mr. Obama's American pedigree doesn't seem to be the issue in my mind.
Whether he ACTS with the best interests of our nation in mind.....IS.
Is there any debate on that matter?
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Choir Loft
While the birthers argue about the presidential pedigree, he and congress suck up to the pentagon and get us over a billion dollars in debt for A THIRD SIMULTANEOUS WAR.
Is there any doubt remaining that the leadership of this country is wholly dedicated to war mongering at every turn?
Even our allies admit to it.
http://www.france24.com/en/20110406-france-us-sarkozy-chief-warmonger-libya-ivory-coast-intervention-motives-obama-bush
Is there any doubt remaining that the leadership of this country is wholly dedicated to war mongering at every turn?
Even our allies admit to it.
http://www.france24.com/en/20110406-france-us-sarkozy-chief-warmonger-libya-ivory-coast-intervention-motives-obama-bush
jerrod146
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They just recently brought his (maybe fake) birth certificate. I question why they would wait 3 years before releasing it and Obama is refusing to release his college records.
th1b.taylor
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Not that it matters one wit to any that have already made there mind up but there is a very informative Youtube demonstration of just why this ?document? is phony by Karl Denninger.
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