Is Spiritual Israel The Woman In Revelation 12?

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The fire and brimstone doesn't affect those who have received the rain.



Zech 14

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.

14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.

15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.



After the fire and brimstone rains down from heaven ,those who are left will travel to Jerusalem every year to keep the feast of tabernacles.

You will not attend though.You have received no rain.

Zechariah 14:16 Who Will Be Left Of The Nations?​

You will closely note, Zechariah 14:16 & Isaiah 4:3-4 are "Parallel" readings of the same event, as Isaiah gives a clear account of those who are left, those who are found in the book of life, the final judgement has passed, eternity has begun "After" The Day Of The Lord

You will closely note in Isaiah 4:4 below, Jerusalem will be purged by the spirit of (Judgement) & (Burning)

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Only The Righteous Are Left, The Book Of Life "Was" Opened (Every One That Is Written Among The Living)

Zechariah 14:16KJV
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Isaiah 4:3-4KJV
3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

Revelation 21:24-27KJV
24 And
the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie:
but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
 

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The kingdom you present will be seen in the NHNE in the New Jerusalem, it's not a kingdom upon this present earth

Matthew 8:12 that you present is the "Final Judgement" in the Lake Of Fire, where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth

P.S. no need to travel anywhere, Jesus will resurrect and gather his Church, no gas, car, plane, or travel expenses needed, compliments of Almighty God, Big Smiles!

Jesus Is The Lord
So you believe Jesus was wrong again.You sayany will not come from.the east and west and sit down in the kingdom of heaven with Abraham Isaac and Jacob.

John saw the new Jerusalem coming down from heaven.He didn't say it it ascended into heaven.
 

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Zechariah 14:16 Who Will Be Left Of The Nations?​

You will closely note, Zechariah 14:16 & Isaiah 4:3-4 are "Parallel" readings of the same event, as Isaiah gives a clear account of those who are left, those who are found in the book of life, the final judgement has passed, eternity has begun "After" The Day Of The Lord

You will closely note in Isaiah 4:4 below, Jerusalem will be purged by the spirit of (Judgement) & (Burning)

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Only The Righteous Are Left, The Book Of Life "Was" Opened (Every One That Is Written Among The Living)

Zechariah 14:16KJV
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Isaiah 4:3-4KJV
3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

Revelation 21:24-27KJV
24 And
the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie:
but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
You seem to be skipping all over the place.you completely slipped the 1000 years in revelation 20.
You must thing Gog is the beast or false prophet or something.
 

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So you believe Jesus was wrong again.You sayany will not come from.the east and west and sit down in the kingdom of heaven with Abraham Isaac and Jacob.

John saw the new Jerusalem coming down from heaven.He didn't say it it ascended into heaven.
John Saw A New Heaven And Earth, The First Heaven And Earth Are Passed Away

You Deny The New Heaven And Earth Seen, Because You Have A Pre-Determined Bias In A Fairy Tale Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, That Will Never Take Place

Revelation 21:1KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

This Earth Will Be Dissolved By "Fire" And The New Heaven, Earth, And Jerusalem Will Replace It "Behold I Make All Things New" A Completely New Creation

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
 

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John Saw A New Heaven And Earth, The First Heaven And Earth Are Passed Away

You Deny The New Heaven And Earth Seen, Because You Have A Pre-Determined Bias In A Fairy Tale Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, That Will Never Take Place

Revelation 21:1KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

This Earth Will Be Dissolved By "Fire" And The New Heaven, Earth, And Jerusalem Will Replace It "Behold I Make All Things New" A Completely New Creation

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
A new earth is still earth.
Not another planet.

Not Venus
Not mars
Not an unknown planet.

A new earth is still earth.

PS
And that takes place after the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth.

Revelation 20
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
 
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A new earth is still earth.
Not another planet.

Not Venus
Not mars
Not an unknown planet.

A new earth is still earth.

PS
And that takes place after the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth.

Revelation 20
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV

7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance
on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV

3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV

5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
 

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There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV

7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance
on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV

3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV

5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Christ reigns for 1000 years before revelation 20:9 .You slipped 8verses in the chapter to arrive to you conclusion.
But you want me to tell you what happens when you take things out of revelation like you are?
 

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There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation
There WILL... be a "thousand years" reign by Jesus Christ and His elect saints over all the nations and peoples WHEN HE RETURNS in our near future.

The real question regarding yourself though, is where will YOU be when Jesus returns and some believers, like the unprofitable servant (Matt.25:30), is cast to the "outer darkness" with the wicked?
 

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Christ reigns for 1000 years before revelation 20:9 .You slipped 8verses in the chapter to arrive to you conclusion.
But you want me to tell you what happens when you take things out of revelation like you are?
You willfully disregard the fact, Jesus returns in fire and final judgement (The End) as post #26 clearly shows

Yes IMHO you have a pre-determibed bias in a Millennial Kingdom on this earth, that will never take place

Jesus Is The Lord

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV

7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance
on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:
 

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There WILL... be a "thousand years" reign by Jesus Christ and His elect saints over all the nations and peoples WHEN HE RETURNS in our near future.
Many claim Jesus will literally return and rule "On This Earth" In A Millennium this being false in deception

Jesus warned his followers against this teaching, Jesus wont be found anywhere upon this earth as many claim

The Antichrist will be in Jerusalem, claiming to be Messiah Returned, "Beware"!

"Believe It Not" "Go Not Forth"

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Revelation 13:13-14KJV
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
 

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There is much debate about this, with the Church as Spiritual Israel as much of a contender as some believe an alternative would be OT Israel in this description. But why can't it simply be a representation of Spiritual Israel, or the Church itself consisting of saved Jews and Gentiles both, Symbolically thru Mary, but not just Mary, but Symbolically thru the Church / Spiritual Israel as well?

Let us begin : .............................................................................................................................................................................

Revelation 12 radically alters the elements of Joseph’s dream. It reinterprets them in terms of spiritual Israel — the church or the congregation of God’s people (Galatians 6:16).

In Revelation the 12 tribes do not refer to the ancient nation, but symbolize the complete church (7:1-8). The woman being arrayed with the sun could represent the church as the radiant bride of Christ (2 Corinthians 11:2). The moon under the woman’s feet and the crown on her head could depict her victory through Christ.

Under this imagery, the “woman” of Revelation 12 would represent God’s pure church. Biblical scholar M. Eugene Boring says: “She is the cosmic woman, clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and crowned with twelve stars, who brings forth the Messiah” (Interpretation: A Bible Commentary for Teaching and Preaching, “Revelation,” p. 152).

In the New Testament, the church is known as spiritual Israel, Zion and “the mother” (Galatians 4:26; 6:16; Ephesians 5:23-24, 30-32; Hebrews 12:22). Zion-Jerusalem was the idealized mother of the nation of Israel (Isaiah 54:1). The metaphor carried over into the New Testament and was applied to the church (Galatians 4:26).


The Jews and the church both have 12 stars​

REVELATION 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

“A great wonder in Heaven” means the vision has spiritual implications.
The Jews were also the mother nation that brought forth the Promised Son, Messiah.
A woman symbolizes a church of believers. The true church is the Bride of Christ.


The events described in the second half of the book of Revelation are directly related to the past and future of two symbolic women who are diametrical opposites. The first (Revelation 12) represents those who have been God's covenant people—the "Church of God"—both Old Testament Israel and the New Testament called-out servants of Christ. The identity of this woman (national Israel or the New Testament Church) in Revelation is determined by the context and other scriptures. Jerusalem, the holy city, is portrayed as their spiritual home (Revelation 11:2).


The Church?

Amillennial and historical premillennial interpreters argue that the woman here is the Church. Advocates of this interpretation argue that the NT authors call the Church a woman (2 Cor. 11:2; Eph. 5:25-27, 32; 2 Jn. 1, 5; 3 Jn. 9), and the early church fathers call the Church a woman as well


d. A woman clothed with the sun: Scripturally, this woman clothed with the sun should be identified with Israel, according to Joseph’s dream (Genesis 37:9-11). In that dream, the sun represented Jacob, the moon represented Joseph’s mother Rachel, and the eleven stars were the sons of Israel which bowed down to Joseph. In this sign with twelve stars, Joseph is now among the other tribes of Israel.

i. In other Old Testament passages, Israel (or Zion or Jerusalem) is often represented as a woman (Isaiah 54:1-6, Jeremiah 3:20, Ezekiel 16:8-14, and Hosea 2:19-20).

2. (2) The woman gives birth.​

Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.

a. Being with child: Later in the chapter, it is clear that this child born of Israel is Jesus (She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron, Revelation 12:5).

b. She cried out in labor and in pain to give birth: The pain described refers to the travail of Israel at the time of Jesus’ birth (under Roman occupation and oppression).


Could the "Woman" be both physical Israel through which the Messiah arose (O/T), and spiritual Israel (Gal. 6:16) that gives birth to the saints of the the Old and New Testaments (Rev. 12:1-2, 5, 13, 17)


Who is the woman in Revelation 12?​

The woman of the Apocalypse—described as being “clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars” (verse 1)—represents Old Testament Israel. In the Old Testament, God referred to His people as a woman whom He had dressed in honor and splendor (Ezekiel 16). The garland with 12 stars may be symbolic of the 12 tribes of Israel (Genesis 37:9-10).

Throughout Revelation 12 we note that the “woman” is repeatedly protected by God (verses 6, 14-16), especially as the time approaches for the “kingdom of our God” to be established on earth (verse 10).

In the New Testament, God’s Church is symbolized as a woman; and its members are likened to virgins (Matthew 25:1-13; Revelation 14:4; Revelation 19:7). The New Testament Church is called “the Israel of God” (Galatians 6:16) and likened to “Jerusalem above,” which is called “the mother of us all” (Galatians 4:26, also see Hebrews 12:22-23). Members of the Church are described as “a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His [God’s] own special people” (1 Peter 2:9).

When Christ returns to earth, He is going to marry the Church, which is called “His wife” in Revelation 19:7. Read more about Jesus Christ and the Church in our article “Marriage Supper of the Lamb.” Based on these passages, it is clear that the woman in Revelation 12 represents God’s people.




There is almost no end to interpretation, with OT Israel, and a NT Spiritual Israel being the two greatest contenders. I have selectively quoted from a few sites, a few of which themselves have concluded that OT Israel is in fact their choice.

It is a quite complicated issue and debate, but I see there are those here, who think they are smarter than everyone else, including all biblical scholars and interpreters, who can't decide nor settle these questions amongst themselves, for all to agree, but those with agendas here, to attack premillennialism, by attempting to comment on that which isn't settled by far amongst scholars, has never been settled, and will never be settled in our lifetimes, but hey lets attack premillennialism while we're at it, and pretend we're smarter than everyone else?
Scale it back.

It would appear that you are thinking too much.

"Spiritual Israel"...is "spiritual." Israel of old is not.​

The "woman" in Revelation 12 is a "woman"--not a man...which speaks of the Bride.​
 

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It is a quite complicated issue and debate, but I see there are those here, who think they are smarter than everyone else, including all biblical scholars and interpreters, who can't decide nor settle these questions amongst themselves, for all to agree, but those with agendas here, to attack premillennialism, by attempting to comment on that which isn't settled by far amongst scholars, has never been settled, and will never be settled in our lifetimes, but hey lets attack premillennialism while we're at it, and pretend we're smarter than everyone else?

It only seems complicated because it points to a whole lot of Bible Scripture, an amount that many have not actually studied, especially involving the Old Testament prophets. And because of that lack of OT Bible study, they view many things written in the New Testament half-way.

Shortest way I can try and show the real Biblical history about the nation of Israel and her people is by a type of outline summary of events:

1. Rev.12:1-5 is actually a summary, from the time of Satan's original rebellion with an old beast kingdom with only "seven crowns", then his attack upon the family of the symbolic 'woman', Eve at first, then Israel, but in final Christ's Church. And then down to the time of Christ's birth, and future reign over the nations with the Psalms 2 "rod of iron" which is still future.

2. Gospel first preached to Abraham (Galatians 3; Romans 4).
3. God's Birthright Blessings joined with The Gospel to Abraham.
4. The Birthright goes to Abraham's son Isaac, and not Ishmael.
5. The Birthright Blessings originally to Abraham goes to Isaac's son Jacob.
6. Jacob makes a pillar stone his pillow; wakes up and anoints it as 'House of God' (Bethel). This stone is carried by Jacob's people on their journeys.
7. Jacob given by God the new name 'Israel' linked with God's Birthright and The Gospel.
8. Jacob told by God that from his loins would come "a nation, and a company of nations".
10. Jacob bears 12 sons that would become the 12 tribes of Israel.
11. The Birthright goes to Joseph, son of Jacob. Simeon lost the Birthright because he defiled his father's bed.
12. Joseph kidnapped by his 11 brothers and is taken captive to Egypt. Joseph is thus separated from his family of Israel.
13. Joseph becomes 2nd head in Egypt. Jacob's family rejoined in Egypt, and become slaves. Joseph bears 2 sons in Egypt, Manasseh the elder, and Ephraim the younger. Jacob blesses the two sons of Joseph, saying that Ephraim shall become "a multitude of nations", and that Manasseh shall also become "great". God's Birthright goes to both, and is never moved again.
14. God sends Moses to lead them out of Egypt.
15. Joshua leads the children of Israel into the holy land of Canaan.
16. God commands the children of Israel to literally wipe out the Rephaim giant-hybrids and the wicked in seven specific nations in the land of Canaan. The children of Israel do not complete God's command, so God allows the left-overs to dwell among the children of Israel.
17. The children of Israel become a great nation in the holy land under king David, and then his son king Solomon, with a temple built to God for worship. The leftover Canaanites are workers in the temple (later called Nethinims).
18. Because of Solomon allowing his many wives to bring idol worship in among the children of Israel, God splits the kingdom of Israel in his son Rehoboam's days.
19. God gives one Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim to be king over the northern ten tribes, called the "kingdom of Israel", or "house of Israel".
20. Solomon's son Rehoboam is king over the "kingdom of Judah", or "house of Judah", in the southern holy lands, at Jerusalem-Judea. The tribes of Judah, Benjamin are only with him.
21. Jeroboam, king of the northern "kingdom of Israel", sets up two gold calf idols in false worship, one at Dan and the other at Bethel, both in the northern land. The Levites in the north leave the ten tribes, and join with Rehoboam and the "house of Judah" at Judea.
22. Jeroboam makes common priests of the ten northern tribes. Small remnants of the ten tribes refuse the calf idol worship and go south to join with Judah.
23. Both 'houses' or kingdoms war against each other.
24. God gets fed up with the ten tribes false worship, and brings the kings of Assyria upon the northern ten tribes.
25. The kings of Assyria, in stages remove all... of the ten northern tribes of the "house of Israel" captive to Assyria and the lands of the Medes.
26. The kings of Assyria take pagan peoples from five provinces in Babylon, and place them in the northern holy lands where the ten tribes were removed. These become the Samaritans, a foreign people not of the children of Israel.
27. The "house of Judah" only is still left in the southern holy lands of Jerusalem-Judea.
28. The ten tribes of Israel become lost, losing their heritage as part of Israel. The Jewish historian Josephus says in his days (100 A.D.), the ten tribes are still beyond Euphrates and are a great number of peoples.
29. The ten tribes eventually become lost among the Gentiles. In the Hosea prophecy God said He would hedge up their paths so they would not find their way back. To this day, they are still scattered among the Gentiles.
30. The "house of Judah", and all foreigners living with them, take the title of Jew. This title is derived from the sole tribe of Judah (per Josephus). This title of 'Jew' applies only to the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi, which make up the "house of Judah", or "kingdom of Judah" still remaining in the land.
31. Approximately 120 years after the ten tribes had been gone, the "house of Judah" also falls into false worship against God.
32. God brings Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, upon the "house of Judah" (Jews), and takes them captive for 70 years to Babylon. Zedekiah, king of Judah has his eyes poked out by the king of Babylon, and is taken captive to Babylon where he dies. All his son heirs are also killed.
33. God's prophet Jeremiah, with his scribe Baruch and the "king's daughters", are taken into Egypt where they drop out of Bible history. But God gave Jeremiah to also be a prophet to the nations, to build and to plant, but where?
34. Jerusalem and Solomon's temple is destroyed by the king of Babylon.
35. After 70 years captivity in Babylon, the "house of Judah" (3 tribes) is released, but only a small remnant of the Jews return to Jerusalem to rebuild the city and temple and walls.
36. The returning children of Israel are in turmoil, because many of the people while captive have taken wives of the Canaanites and had children by them, something God commanded them to not do.
37. The Nethinims (Canaanite temple servants) become setup at tower of Ophel in the city of David in Jerusalem.
38. The Babylonian Talmud written by the sages becomes the main set of religious guides for the Jew's religion.
39. Jesus' 1st coming to die on the cross and be raised by The Father.
40. Majority of lost ten tribes migrate westward from Assyria and land of Medes into Asia Minor and Europe. The pass through the Dariel pass around the Caucasus Mountains above the Black Sea, and become known as Caucasians.
41. Branches of the ten tribe Israelites become identified as Cimmerians (from 1930's linguist Leroy Waterman of the University of Michigan, translation from the Assyrian tablets).
42. The Gospel of Jesus Christ rejected by the majority of the Jews, as they crucify Jesus of Nazareth in Jerusalem.
43. Apostle Paul, once a Pharisee Jew against Christ, converts to Jesus, and warns the rejecting Jews that The Gospel would instead go to the Gentiles, and that they would believe.
44. The disciples go on the road and preach The Gospel. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is received in the nations of Asia Minor, and Europe, the very locations where the majority of the ten lost tribes were scattered to among the Gentiles.
45. The majority of the "house of Judah" (Jews) choose to remain in Babylon, because God took good care of them there. They were then further scattered through the countries.
46. Lost Israelites and Gentiles in the western nations become the western Christian nations under Jesus Christ, both believing Israelites and Gentiles together as Christ's Church.
47. A remnant of Jews of the scattered "house of Judah" returns to the holy land in 1948, and the nation state of Israel becomes a nation again after almost 2,000 years of its destruction by the king of Babylon.
48. PRESENT DAY.
 
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48. PRESENT DAY.
Soon to happen:
Jeremiah 12:14-16 These are the Words of the Lord: I am against all those evil neighbours who have encroached onto the Land that My Israelite people will inherit. Take note; I will pluck them out from where they are now and also I will pluck out the House of Judah as well. After I have removed them, I will Return and have compassion on them, bringing them back to their heritage, if they will diligently learn the Way of My people, to only swear by My Name: the Living God. But if they refuse, then I will completely remove and destroy them.

This Bible passage is extremely informative, it gives the Lord’s plans for three groups of people.

1/ The evil neighbours; The Islamic nations and entities surrounding Israel. Soon to be cleared out of the entire Middle East region by the terrible Day of the Lord’s wrath by fire from the sun. Psalms 83:1-18, Isaiah 30:25-30, Amos 1:1-11, 2:1-5

2/ The House of Judah, the Jewish people, currently inhabiting a part of the holy Land. The same fate as the neighbours, but a remnant will be saved. Isaiah 6:11-13, Zechariah 13:8-9, Romans 9:27

3/ My people; the true Israelites of God, every faithful Christian believer; individuals from every tribe, race, nation and language. Followers of the right Way. Revelation 5:9-10, 1 Peter 2:9-10

The story described here, is clear and concise: The Lord is about to solve all the Middle East problems, to a similar degree as how He reset civilization in Noah’s time. All the holy land will be depopulated, Zephaniah 14-18, Hosea 4:3, Jeremiah 10:18, excepting a small remnant of Messianic Jews who will shelter in bunkers in Jerusalem. Isaiah 29:1-4, Romans 9:27

This will allow the gathering and settling of His righteous Christian people into their heritage of the entire holy Land, where they will, at last be the people He always wanted there; a people who will be His witnesses and display His light to the nations. Isaiah 43:10, Isaiah 49:8
 
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Is Spiritual Israel The Woman In Revelation 12?​

“a great wonder” – Truly God’s miracles are a sign of His glorious and beautiful character of love; see Deut. 3:24, 4:34, 6:22, 7:19, 26:8, 29:3; Jos. 24:17; Neh. 9:17; Job. 9:10; Psa. 136:4; Jer. 32:21; Dan. 4:3; Mat. 9:8, 15:31; Mar. 2:12; Luk. 5:26, 7:16, 13:13, 17:15, 23:47; Jhn. 6:2, 11:4, 13:31-32; Act. 2:19, 3:11-13, 4:21, 6:8, 11:18; Gal. 1:24; 2 Thes. 1:12; 1 Pet. 4:14, etc.

“in heaven” – Truly a miracle of God that any person of ‘mankind’ is ‘in heaven’ at all because the wages of sin is death (Rom. 6:23), but through the grace, love and promise of God in Christ Jesus (Gen. 3:15,21), mankind was to be redeemed, and though it was given for all (Jhn. 3:16), only a remnant who believed, grasping the promise by living faith and not letting go, appropriating it to themselves, would be saved; see Mat. 6:21; Luk. 12:34; Phi. 3:20; Col. 3:1-3; Heb. 12:23, and (‘in heaven’, Canaan, the promised land, a symbol of the real promised land, Heavenly Canaan); see 1 Cor. 10:6,11; Gen. 17:8; Exo. 20:12; 1 Chr. 16:18; Psa. 105:11, etc.)

“a woman” (faithful) – God’s people ((OT) Israel or (NT) Christians), flock, church, a body, bone of the man’s (Adam; Gen. 2:23; 1 Cor. 15:44-46) bone and flesh of His flesh, and the city (Mat. 12:10-11) in which they reside (New Jerusalem); see Jer. 6:2; Isa. 54:5, 61:10, 62:5 ; Act. 7:38; 1 Cor. 6:17; 2 Cor. 11:2; Gal. 4:26; Eph. 5:23-32; Rev. 19:7, 21:2-3,9; see also Jesus as the “bridegroom” – Mat. 9:15, 25:1,5-6,10; Mar. 2:19-20; Luk. 5:34-35; Jhn. 2:9, 3:29; Rev. 18:23; Jer. 7:34, 16:9, 25:10, 33:11; Joe. 2:16 and Song of Solomon (entire); see also (unfaithful) Jer. 3:14,20; Hos. 1:2, 2:2, etc.

“clothed with” (not naked (a symbol of shame/sin; Gen 3:7-11; Isa. 47:3; Eze. 16:8; Hos. 2:9; Nah. 3:5; Rev. 3:18, for we are warned not to uncover our ‘Mother’s” (Gal. 4:26) nakedness in Lev. 18)) – The character [righteous or unrighteous, rich or poor, depending upon context, etc, and color also affects the character, like White is Purity/Righteousness, Blue is Law/Commandments, Red is Sin/Sacrifice; Purple is Royalty, Lambskin is Christ's Character or Righteousness, Goatskin is the symbol for sin, etc], see Gen. 3:7,21, 35:2; Exo. 28:2,4; Ecc. 9:8; Isa. 52:1, 59:6,17, 61:3,10, 63:2-3, 64:6; Eze. 16:16; Joe. 2:13; Zec. 3:3-5; Gal. 3:27; Tit. 2:10; Rev. 3:4,17, 16:15 [compare to the Garden of Gethsemane, when the disciples forsook Jesus, Mar. 14:51-52], 19:14

“the sun” – The Great Light in the 2nd Heaven, the day star, the morning star, which gives light, warmth, being glorious, and represents God, even Jesus Christ, the Everlasting Gospel and the New Testament/Covenant; see Gen. 1:15-19; Num. 24:17; Psa. 72:17, 84:11, 89:36; Ecc. 11:7; Son. 6:10; Isa. 2:5, 5:20, 8:20, 30:6, 60:1,3,19-20; Jer. 31:35; Mic. 3:6; Mal. 4:2; Mat. 4:16, 13:43, 17:2; Luk. 1:79; Jhn. 1:4-9, 3:21, 8:12, 9:5, 12:35-36,46; Act. 9:3; 2 Cor. 4:4-6; Eph. 5:13-14; 2 Pet. 1:19; 1 Jhn. 2:8; Rev. 1:16, 2:28, 10:1, 21:11,23, 22:5,16.

“the moon” – The lesser light, ruling the night, being for “signs”, “seasons”, which reflects the light of the Sun, reflecting the glory of God (like unto the Sea of Glass, Rev. 4:6, 15:2), and is also representative of the Old Testament, along with the Shadows/Types, being a faithful witness, likened unto a mother of Israel, and is ‘a rock’; see Gen. 1:15-19, 37:9; Exo. 33:21; Deut. 33:14; Job. 31:26; Psa. 81:3, 89:37, 121:6; Son. 6:10; Isa. 8:18, 30:26, 60:19; Eze. 46:4; Luk. 6:48, 24:27; Act. 2:43, 5:12, 8:13, 14:3; Rom. 15:19; 1 Cor. 10:11; 2 Cor. 12:12; Col. 2:16-17; Heb. 2:4

“under her feet” – The way in which a person walks, either in the light or in darkness, in the truth or in error, walking with God or away from God, walking in His ways or the ways of another, and this “woman” is seen standing upon the firm “moon”, the very word of God, even the ‘rock’ Christ Jesus, the “faithful witness”, the foundation of the Old Testament which points forward using symbols, shadows and types unto Christ Jesus the reality; see Gen. 5:22,24, 6:9, 17:1; Exo. 16:14, 18:20, 32:8; Lev. 18:3-4, 20:23, 26:3,21; Deut. 5:33, 8:6,19, 10:12, 11:22,28, 13:4-5, 19:9; 2 Sam. 22:37; 1 Ki. 8:25, 15:3, 16:26; 2 Chr. 6:16; Job. 31:7; Psa. 18:36, 73:2, 86:11, 115:7, 119:3,45; Pro. 21:16; Luk. 6:48; Jhn. 8:12, 11:9-10, 12:35; Act. 14:16, 21:21; 1 Cor. 3:11; 2 Tim. 2:19.

“upon her head” – Leadership or Rulership, Authority and also in Subjection, as Christ Jesus is “head” of the “body” the Church, and the Father is the Head of Christ or as a symbol of reward, as in favour (Gen. 48:17; Job. 29:3; Psa. 133:2) or disfavour (Gen. 40:17; 2 Sam. 1:16; 1 Ki. 2:33,37, 8:32; 2 Chr. 6:23; Neh. 4:4; Est. 9:25; Psa. 7:16; Jer. 2:37, 23:19, 30:23; Eze. 9:10, 16:43, 33:4; Joe. 3:4,7; Amo. 8:10; Oba. 1:15) from God; see Exo. 29:26; 1 Chr. 29:11; Est. 2:17, 6:8; Pro. 10:6, 11:26; Isa. 51:11, 59:17; Eze. 16:12; Zec. 3:5; Mat. 27:29; 1 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 4:15, 5:23; Col. 1:18, 2:10; Rev. 14:14, 19:12.

“a crown” – Rulership, leadership, authority, dominion, kings, emperors, queens, heads of state, exalted, royalty, victorious, knowledge of wisdom; see Lev. 21:22; Est. 2:17; Job. 19:19; Isa. 28:5, 62:3; Psa. 8:5; Pro. 4:9, 12:4, 14:18; Son. 3:11; Lam. 5:16; Eze. 21:26; Mat. 27:29; 2 Tim. 2:5; Heb. 2:9.

“of 12” – Service, Victory over self (Israel; OT – 12 patriarchs & NT – 12 disciples/apostles; prince or overcomer with God) and always being about the Father’s business, rulership (Est. 9:1; as the 12 hours in the day/night; Jhn. 11:9), purification (Est. 2:12), and 6 + 6 were the two stacks of the shewbread, a place for the Father and Son (Lev. 24:5-6); see: Gen. 14:4, 42:13; 1 Ki. 4:7, 18:31; 1 Chr. 25:6,9-31; 2 Chr. 34:3; Neh. 5:14; Eze. 47:12; Mat. 10:5-10; Mar. 3:14-15, 9:35; Luk. 2:42,49, 9:1-2; Jhn. 18:36; Act. 26:7; Jam. 1:1; Rev. 7:3,4-8, 22:2.

“stars” – (12 stars, are a united constellation, a unifed unit) the re-created peoples (multitudes) of God, also Angels, messengers as shining lights to the world which shone in the night, exalted in the heavens; for signs; see Gen. 1:16, 15:5, 22:17, 26:4, 37:9; Exo. 32:13; Deut. 1:10, 10:22, 28:62; Judg. 5:20; 1 Chr. 27:23; Neh. 4:21, 9:23; Job. 3:9, 9:9, 22:12, 38:7,31; Psa. 8:3, 136:9, 147:4, 148:3; Isa. 13:10, 14:13; Jer. 31:35; Dan. 10:8, 12:3; Joe. 2:10, 3:15; Amo. 5:8,26; Oba. 1:4; Mat. 2:2,7,9-10; Luk. 21:25; Jhn. 1:8, 5:35; Act. 7:43; 1 Cor. 15:41; Heb. 11:12; Jud. 1:13; Rev. 1:16,20, 2:1, 3:1, 8:10,12, 9:1, 12:4,7,8,9.

“she being with child” – Pregnant with the Messiah/Christ, the field having received the ‘seed’ (as of a mustard seed) of faith (Mat. 13:31, 17:20; Mar. 4:31; Luk. 13:19. 17:6), who when given (new) ‘birth’ (character of Christ formed within) to, bearing ‘fruit’ (Exo. 21:22; Gen. 1:11-12; 2 Ki. 19:30; Isa. 37:31; Eze. 17:8,23; Luk. 13:9; Jhn. 15:4), would be ‘delivered’, see Gen. 3:15, 16:11, 19:36, 38:24-25; 1 Sam. 4:19; 2 Sam. 11:5; Ecc. 11:5; Isa. 26:17-18, 54:1, 66:7-8; Mic. 5:3; Mat. 1:18,23, 24:19; Mar. 13:17; Luk. 21:23; Gal. 4:27; Rev. 12:17. – pre A.D., being B.C. (Did you know that a woman ‘sheds blood’ (works, filthy rags) until she receives ‘the seed’ (of Faith) – Mat. 9:20-22; Mar. 5:25-34; Luk. 8:43-48?)

“cried” – A loud voice, crying (as John the Baptist), even of the other prophets (Zec. 7:7; Rom. 9:27); one of pain, and also of desiring for the Desire of all nations (Jesus; Hag. 2:7); see Psa. 69:3; Mat. 3:3, 9:27, 20:30-31, 21:9,15; Mar. 1:3, 9:24, 10:47-48, 11:9; Luk. 3:4, 4:41, 18:39; Jhn. 1:15,23; Rom. 8:15; Gal. 4:6. The people ‘cried’ unto the LORD, in mercy, He delivered them (2 Chr. 32:20; Neh. 9:27-28; Psa. 3:4, 18:6, 22:5, 30:8, 107:6,13, etc).

“travailing in birth” – The Church of God (Act. 7:38), the peoples Israel, were going through great struggles and sorrow (Ecc. 1:13, 2:23,26, 3:10, 4:4,6,8, 5:14) for a long time. They had been assaulted by Assyrians, Egyptians, Babylonians, Medo-Persians, Greecians and then they were again subjugated by the Roman Empire, and the Pharisees and Saduccees and even the High Priest were more political than anything else, and were corrupt (Luk. 3:1-2). The Prophecies of the Messiah were largely confused by the people (Mar. 12:24), though there were some faithful which were looking and understood somewhat (wisemen of the east, shepherds, Simeon, Anna a prophetess, etc). There had been many uprisings and revolts against the oppressions, but each time ending in failure (Dan. 11:14; Act. 5:36-37, 21:38). The time prophecies of Daniel (Dan. 9:20-27), upon which all the prophecies of the first coming/advent (Mat. 11:13; Luk. 16:16) of Christ were about to culminate in those years; see Gen. 35:16, 38:27-28; Exo. 18:8; Num. 20:14; 1 Sam. 4:19; Job. 15:20; Psa. 7:14, 48:5-6; Isa. 13:8, 21:3, 23:4, 26:17-18, 42:14, 53:11; Jer. 4:31, 6:24, 13:21, 22:23, 30:6, 31:8, 49:24, 50:43; Hos. 13:13; Mic. 4:9-10, 5:3; Luk. 2:11; Jhn. 16:21; Rom. 8:22; Gal. 4:19,27; Col. 1:27; 1 Thes. 2:9, 5:3; 2 Thes. 3:8.

“pained” – Struggling, see Psa. 25:18; Jer. 4:19; Mar. 6:48.

“to be delivered” – To give birth (to Jesus Christ, and/or His character, thus saved from sin); see 2 Ki. 19:3; Job. 5:19, 6:23, 33:24,28, 36:15; Psa. 6:4, 7:1, 18:2; Pro. 11:21; Isa. 26:17-18, 37:3, 61:1, 66:9; Mat. 6:13; Luk. 4:18, 11:4; Jhn. 16:21; Rom. 11:26; 1 Tim. 2:15.
 
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Soon to happen:
Jeremiah 12:14-16 These are the Words of the Lord: I am against all those evil neighbours who have encroached onto the Land that My Israelite people will inherit. Take note; I will pluck them out from where they are now and also I will pluck out the House of Judah as well. After I have removed them, I will Return and have compassion on them, bringing them back to their heritage, if they will diligently learn the Way of My people, to only swear by My Name: the Living God. But if they refuse, then I will completely remove and destroy them.

This Bible passage is extremely informative, it gives the Lord’s plans for three groups of people.

1/ The evil neighbours; The Islamic nations and entities surrounding Israel. Soon to be cleared out of the entire Middle East region by the terrible Day of the Lord’s wrath by fire from the sun. Psalms 83:1-18, Isaiah 30:25-30, Amos 1:1-11, 2:1-5

2/ The House of Judah, the Jewish people, currently inhabiting a part of the holy Land. The same fate as the neighbours, but a remnant will be saved. Isaiah 6:11-13, Zechariah 13:8-9, Romans 9:27

3/ My people; the true Israelites of God, every faithful Christian believer; individuals from every tribe, race, nation and language. Followers of the right Way. Revelation 5:9-10, 1 Peter 2:9-10

The story described here, is clear and concise: The Lord is about to solve all the Middle East problems, to a similar degree as how He reset civilization in Noah’s time. All the holy land will be depopulated, Zephaniah 14-18, Hosea 4:3, Jeremiah 10:18, excepting a small remnant of Messianic Jews who will shelter in bunkers in Jerusalem. Isaiah 29:1-4, Romans 9:27

This will allow the gathering and settling of His righteous Christian people into their heritage of the entire holy Land, where they will, at last be the people He always wanted there; a people who will be His witnesses and display His light to the nations. Isaiah 43:10, Isaiah 49:8
Jesus returns in fire and final judgment upon this world (The End)

"Destroyed Them All"!

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
 

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Jesus returns in fire and final judgment upon this world (The End)

"Destroyed Them All"!

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
The Bible narrative of Revelation proves you wrong. Jesus does not Return the destroy the world He has come to reign over.

Luke 17:29-30, refers to the great and terrible Day of the Lord's fiery wrath, when He destroys the attackers of Israel. Psalms 83, Micah4:11-12
 
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Is Spiritual Israel The Woman In Revelation 12?​

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I believe Nations are referred in the Feminine context and that the Woman IS the Tribes of ISRAEL.
 
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Revelation chapter 12, the woman protected by the flood. Is Gods Elect. The Election have seal of God, revelation chapter 7, and the gospel armour on, ephesians chapter 6. The gospel armour is knowledge and wisdom of God's word. Satan as antichrist will conduct spirtual battlefield. Its words, ideas and concepts. Satan will convert many people to his indoctrination. Many people are biblically illiterate. That flood of revelation chapter 12 is lies and deception from the mouth of antichrist. Many people lack knowledge. Antichrist will have no problem deceiving many people, revelation chapter 13 to document. God's Election won't worship antichrist. They have seal of God, revelation chapter 7 to document. How do I get past antichrist?? Ephesians chapter 6, gospel armory is knowledge and wisdom of God's word. It's studying the bible.
 
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