Is the Second Death the End? - (nope)

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Jack

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Looks like an English word to me Jack.
Still the same Word, FOREVER! Want more from Jesus? Ok.

Matthew 13:49-50
49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,
50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
 

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Satan LOVES it when his messengers convince people there is no EVERLASTING Hell!
 

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You should be concerned about the Lake of Fire for Bible choppers, that Jesus warned you.
Yeah, so the only message you have is that If a person doesn't believe in hell they're going there.

Great gospel Jack.

Goodnight.
 

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Most scholars believe Revelation was written around 95 or 96

Indeed and nonsense, they just don't know.


Checkout the oldest verses of Revelation yourself.

Nothing of the NT is original, all original manuscripts did not survive the tooth of time, what we have are copies of copies of the original manuscripts by scribes. Fortunately so, else everything would have been lost. A miracle we have them.

The evidence is in Revelation itself, chapter 11, the temple still in place.
 
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The Book of Revelation is coming to pass right under your noses!
 

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The Book of Revelation is coming to pass right under your noses!

Hi Jack,

Apparently it seems to be your call to preach hell.

Makes me wonder if you can also preach the gospel of salvation.

Please give it a try, would be interesting to know your understanding.
 
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Hi Jack,

Apparently it seems to be your call to preach hell.

Makes me wonder if you can also preach the gospel of salvation.

Please give it a try, would be interesting to know your understanding.
Salvation is avoiding Hell Fire, the MOST important doctrine in the NT.

Matthew 13:49-50

49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,
50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

No worse future!!!
 
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Salvation is avoiding Hell Fire, the MOST important doctrine in the NT.

Matthew 13:49-50

49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,
50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

No worse future!!!

Are you saved from hell Jack ?

And if so, how ?

And if so, why ?
 
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Jack

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Are you saved from hell Jack ?

And if so, how ?

And if so, why ?
You ask questions but don't give answers. Why is that? What's more important than escaping ETERNAL Hell Fire??? NOTHING!!!

Rev 20 They will be tormented day and night FOREVER ...
 
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Indeed and nonsense, they just don't know.


Checkout the oldest verses of Revelation yourself.

Nothing of the NT is original, all original manuscripts did not survive the tooth of time, what we have are copies of copies of the original manuscripts by scribes. Fortunately so, else everything would have been lost. A miracle we have them.

The evidence is in Revelation itself, chapter 11, the temple still in place.
Then why is the Bible coming to pass right under your nose?
 

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Thanks for this brilliant post from @ProDeo

"Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Same people one chapter later -

Rev 22:15 Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

They are still pretty much alive.

Meaning second death means the same as the first death A&E faced, separation from the presence of the Lord.

Give it a thought."

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The Revelation 22:14-15 Scripture is actually "thousand years" Millennium timing. Just because it is written in Revelation 22, many assume... it is new heavens and a new earth timing. Also, because the Waters of Life and Tree of Life are shown that also makes many think it is new heavens a new earth time. It is not.

Ezekiel 47 reveals the future Millennium "sanctuary" manifest on earth after Christ's return. And the wicked and deceived are still present also. That "sanctuary" includes God's River of the Waters of Life flowing out from beneath it, and the many Trees of Life manifest on each side of that River. Problem is, many of my Christian brethren are told they have no need to study The Old Testament Scriptures. So they don't have a clue about this, and nor do you!