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No, I don't think he would ever quit.
He is still a member on SiT2 yet he hasn't been there for about three years.

I must say I did wonder how on earth his Profile page has gone...even though his name is still here on the forum and can be searched.
I have found when a person just chooses the option of not allowing anyone to look at their profile info ,and so do that....
It says this members profile is not available...
But when I am pretty sure a member has been suspended for a while or banned, it says -
( this is twinc's as you can see in the link )
https://www.christianityboard.com/members/twinc.3763/

I'm very sad. :(
Me too. You just reminded me of him.
Could you look for that window that comes up that tells you the last time he was seen? I think it's a long time...maybe a couple of months.
 

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Me too. You just reminded me of him.
Could you look for that window that comes up that tells you the last time he was seen? I think it's a long time...maybe a couple of months.

"Last see August 9th"

He may have irritated some...but I found him a harmless , lonely old man. He has floated around all the Sites for at least 15yrs now...
 
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"Last see August 9th"

He may have irritated some...but I found him a harmless , lonely old man. He has floated around all the Sites for at least 15yrs now...
I think he was catholic and as a catholic he had some funny ideas, but when I found out how old he is, I just tried not to argue anything with him. He just needed to be here for whatever reason.

It would be nice to know what happens to the older folk who stop showing up...
 
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I think he was catholic and as a catholic he had some funny ideas, but when I found out how old he is, I just tried not to argue anything with him. He just needed to be here for whatever reason.

It would be nice to know what happens to the older folk who stop showing up...

I have his email address I will drop him a line...but even on a regular email he takes weeks to answer...I don't think he gets many emails, therefore he probably doesn't check his emails often.

But I will give it a try.
 

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No, I don't think he would ever quit.
He is still a member on SiT2 yet he hasn't been there for about three years.

I must say I did wonder how on earth his Profile page has gone...even though his name is still here on the forum and can be searched.
I have found when a person just chooses the option of not allowing anyone to look at their profile info ,and so do that....
It says this members profile is not available...
But when I am pretty sure a member has been suspended for a while or banned, it says -
( this is twinc's as you can see in the link )
https://www.christianityboard.com/members/twinc.3763/

I'm very sad. :(
I checked on T2O. He is still a member there. His last post there was 8-10-2018. His profile shows he is currently 88 years old.
 
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I think he was catholic and as a catholic he had some funny ideas, but when I found out how old he is, I just tried not to argue anything with him. He just needed to be here for whatever reason.

It would be nice to know what happens to the older folk who stop showing up...
He is an old Catholic for the most part holding onto Catholicism as it was prior to the changes ushered in by Vatican II. It took me years understand that much about him.
 

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He is an old Catholic for the most part holding onto Catholicism as it was prior to the changes ushered in by Vatican II. It took me years understand that much about him.
I don't know A,
he had some pretty odd ideas...pre or post Vat II!

But, much as we debate here for whatever reason we're here,
God accepts all who love Him and no matter what their doctrine is.
Amen.
 
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We cannot sin inside the tank...as the environment will not permit it. We need to forsake sin in order to enter into His shelter.

We practice righteousness because we are IN Him. We are talking here of an eternal kind of righteousness...whereby we do things that were prepared in advance.....perfectly. They are His perfect works.

So then our righteousness is...doing the right thing with what we have been given. It is in a human capacity. So then if we have money....and we give it away to someone in need...we have done a good thing. Anybody can do this. Think of the widow's 2 mites.

But His righteousness is Christ working His ways through us. It never becomes ours. It is always His. We are just the vessels that contain His holiness. No one can do things on that level...unless Christ is behind it. These are the impossible works that originate from heaven. How did Peter slay Ananias and Sapphira? Did he use a human means? No! It was the righteousness of a holy God ON Peter that did the work.
Did you start a thead on righteousness?
Could you please link it if you did, I think I remember seeing it.

It's a very interesting subject matter and there is much to say about it and it deserves its own thread instead of getting into it here.

Thanks.
 

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I don't know A,
he had some pretty odd ideas...pre or post Vat II!

But, much as we debate here for whatever reason we're here,
God accepts all who love Him and no matter what their doctrine is.
Amen.
Yes, as I was a Catholic only during those pre-Vatican II times I know you are correct. I would say he started a "good" Catholic but after Vatican II he kind of went along his own way since officially the church was no longer guiding him. I loved the Catholic Church when I was active in it, but I don't recognize it any more for many reasons.
 

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Paul says what God wrote on stone is now written on the heart, so that would mean the Ten Commandments?

The Ten Commandments say nothing about believing in Jesus or love, so, no, it is not the Ten Commandments, but what the Ten Commandments, themselves, are based on. The eternal laws of God are to "love God with all your heart, mind and strength, and love your neighbor, which is also called the "royal law." The Ten Commandments were only to show us what sin is, but Jesus came to take away our sin (the whole reason for the list). He gives us His own Spirit to guide us and to walk in. With Jesus, you don't merely not kill someone, you love them.

BTW, be careful who you let teach you. Some are so blind and unteachable, themselves, not knowing a good teacher when one offers, that if you are also blind, you could fall in a ditch.
 
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The Ten Commandments were only to show us what sin is, but Jesus came to take away our sin
That was one aspect of the Ten Commandments.

The other aspect was to show us what righteousness is before God.

So we need to be careful that we understand the significance of the Ten Commandments properly. They are incorporated into the Law of Christ. See Romans 13.
 
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That was one aspect of the Ten Commandments.

The other aspect was to show us what righteousness is before God.

So we need to be careful that we understand the significance of the Ten Commandments properly. They are incorporated into the Law of Christ. See Romans 13.
The commandments given to Moses also served to show the Israelites how to return to living a civilized life. They had been slaves for so long, all they knew was how to survive. 400 or so years is a long time and many generations and all they knew was slavery.

Romans says that if it were not for the commandments (10) they would not have known what sin is. So it was to show what sin is so that they could be aware of it and not sin (or try not to sin), it was to show them how to live a better or good life after many years of slavery, and it was to show them how God wanted them to live right and be righteous for Him (do what is right in God's eyes).

There are many reasons for the commandments, but one is certainly not to abolish them. Walking in the spirit means the Holy Spirit is our paraclete and helps us to keep the commandments; walking in the flesh means we care nothing about God or His commandments.
 
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That was one aspect of the Ten Commandments.

The other aspect was to show us what righteousness is before God.

So we need to be careful that we understand the significance of the Ten Commandments properly. They are incorporated into the Law of Christ. See Romans 13.

Righteousness before God is much more than what can be found in the Ten Commandments. But they are holy, and are for the flesh, so if you want to stay with them because you are in the flesh, fine. I'll go with the Spirit, stay out of the flesh, and fulfill the righteous requirements of the law, fully.
 
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The commandments given to Moses also served to show the Israelites how to return to living a civilized life. They had been slaves for so long, all they knew was how to survive. 400 or so years is a long time and many generations and all they knew was slavery.

Romans says that if it were not for the commandments (10) they would not have known what sin is. So it was to show what sin is so that they could be aware of it and not sin (or try not to sin), it was to show them how to live a better or good life after many years of slavery, and it was to show them how God wanted them to live right and be righteous for Him (do what is right in God's eyes).

There are many reasons for the commandments, but one is certainly not to abolish them. Walking in the spirit means the Holy Spirit is our paraclete and helps us to keep the commandments; walking in the flesh means we care nothing about God or His commandments.

If that's what you believe, then keep the strict keeping of the Sabbath from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday. Remember, break one commandment you are guilty of breaking them all.
 
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Righteousness before God is much more than what can be found in the Ten Commandments. But they are holy, and are for the flesh, so if you want to stay with them because you are in the flesh, fine. I'll go with the Spirit, stay out of the flesh, and fulfill the righteous requirements of the law, fully.
It would appear that you are quite confused about the Ten Commandments.

How in the world can they be "for the flesh" since the New Covenant and the New Birth are of the Spirit, at which time those commandments are written on the hearts and minds of those who are born again?

HEBREWS 8
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

As Paul tells, they were written on tablets of stone under the Old Covenant, but they are written on the hearts and minds -- by the regeneration of the Holy Spirit -- under the New Covenant.
 
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Could he have quit? As you say he has been around for a long time. I have wrangled a bit with him on a half dozen or more forums prior to this one over the years. Hopefully, he is OK.
Let's pray for him.

@amadeus @bbyrd009 @GodsGrace @Nancy

I DID hear a very cheery email from Jim/twinc.
He said that he has no idea why...but he was banned from this forum. :(

I would have thought that any forum would give a warning before a ban. We always did on all Mike's Forums. He and I did ban ( strange) people, but never without a warning.

Plus a ban is permanent...but a suspension can be three weeks, three months etc... we did more suspending than banning if possible.
Anyway John, he says that he is going to try and see if he can remember his password on SiT2
Trouble is he hasn't visited there for about 2 years and counting...so I hope that he can get on there okay.

xx
 

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@amadeus @bbyrd009 @GodsGrace @Nancy

Right after the first email I just got this a moment ago...
It is 1.40am there...so he obviously isn't sleeping.
( don't I know how that feels!! :rolleyes: )

His message.

Hello again Helen - I cant seem to connect with 'staying in touch 2' - I have had a pacemaker fitted and fractured my hip bone and been on various other check ups and been turned upside down, and inside out etc - twinc

Im glad he is his same old self... :D
 
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