"Jesus is a fake," an atheist claimed on Quora Digest. "Can you prove me wrong with evidence?"

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Matthias

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What is the purpose of the challenge? What does the atheist hope to achieve?
 

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In truth, you cannot prove anything about God, Jesus, the gospel, etc. God has made that a certainty. If He wanted us to be able to prove anything about Him, He could have done that quite easily; but, He did not. He has made everything known about Himself conditioned upon faith. He has, by way of the Bible, given us everything necessary to believe in Him, i.e., to have faith in Him. But God has not given us anything that we can use to prove anything about Him. Faith is the key. Everything depends upon faith. If we could prove anything about God, we really wouldn't need faith.
That couldn’t be done easily, nor at all. It’s not a limitation of God, but indicative of the reality of God.

There is an all-important distinction of what another can prove to you, and what inspection can reveal about you.
 

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That couldn’t be done easily, nor at all. It’s not a limitation of God, but indicative of the reality of God.
You seriously think that God could not easily prove anything and everything about Himself if He had intended that? But if He had done that, the need for or the effectiveness of faith would have all been moot. Clearly, God is seeking the faithful to be those chosen as members of His kingdom.
 

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You seriously think that God could not easily prove anything and everything about Himself if He had intended that?
There’s no thought that God could not. It’s just impossible given the true nature of God.

But if He had done that, the need for or the effectiveness of faith would have all been moot. Clearly, God is seeking the faithful to be those chosen as members of His kingdom.
This is the kingdom. (Already).
 

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There’s no thought that God could not. It’s just impossible given the true nature of God.
I have no idea what you are talking about. We will in the next age have absolute, though perhaps still incomplete, knowledge of and about God. It will then not be a matter of faith. We will then see him as He is.
This is the kingdom. (Already).
Yes, and the members of that kingdom are those who, having no direct knowledge of or about God, do sincerely believe in God. Faith is the distinguishing characteristic of the child of God.

Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
 

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You seriously think that God could not easily prove anything and everything about Himself if He had intended that? But if He had done that, the need for or the effectiveness of faith would have all been moot. Clearly, God is seeking the faithful to be those chosen as members of His kingdom.
And meanwhile as he tells us,all of creation is proof of God. So that none are able to come with the excuse, I never saw evidence anything referred to as a God exists!
 

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Jesus is the answer longing souls desire without even knowing the question.

He is the last human prototype (but the one God had in mind when he made the first prototype).

He is the lone Designer / Creator of all things created in the beginning. The eternal life which transcends the physical laws by his eternality and ability to create all things created from absolutely nothing. Otherwise physical existence could not exist by strictly physical means (thanks to the 1st and 2nd Laws of Thermodynamics).

Someone eternally metaphysical who is supernatural enough to make things from nothing has to exist.

Jesus fits the bill.

Want to know more about him, read his testimony in the Judeo-Christian Bible and stop burying your heads in the sand.

Think you don’t?

Who or what caused the Big Bang?

Law of causality is as binding as any other in physics.

Stop playing games.

You don’t want to answer to the Supreme Being. Man up about it. Stop being a spoiled brat about it and face it. Your defiance is nothing new, nothing clever. All that you waste your life on will pass by in a flash. And it will be over forever and ever.

Then what?

Read the book. Most atheists pride themselves on being studious. Be sure to note what the Judeo-Christian Bible informs humanity about what is and what is to come. It’s the one that bears the divine footprints / signature (like Job the oldest book of the Bible that peaks of cosmology like the earth being suspended in space and rotating).

Jesus is the most real. The rest of the humanity are the fakes. Especially atheists.
Who or what caused the Big Bang?
A student in chemistry class with poor supervision.
 
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Yep. One who didn't consider that all important first question.

Where did the stuff that went bang come from? hmmx1: :rain?:
That a statement to where the stuff came from is not given or not acknowledged as having come from God, does not dispute or negate the reality or truth of the big bang.
 

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It depends what you'll accept as evidence.

Will you accept the written account of an eyewitness? Even if it was written down long after the fact? Multiple eyewitnesses? If so, then there is a mountain of evidence.

Will you only accept archaeological artifacts? If so, then I probably can't prove it to your satisfaction. I can prove the existence of Peter & Paul, James and many other New Testament figures, but strangely enough we don't have Jesus' bones. :IDK:
Has anyone ever converted to Atheism and got delivered from drugs, healed from an illness or turned their life around?
 

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Jesus is the answer longing souls desire without even knowing the question.

He is the last human prototype (but the one God had in mind when he made the first prototype).

He is the lone Designer / Creator of all things created in the beginning. The eternal life which transcends the physical laws by his eternality and ability to create all things created from absolutely nothing. Otherwise physical existence could not exist by strictly physical means (thanks to the 1st and 2nd Laws of Thermodynamics).

Someone eternally metaphysical who is supernatural enough to make things from nothing has to exist.

Jesus fits the bill.

Want to know more about him, read his testimony in the Judeo-Christian Bible and stop burying your heads in the sand.

Think you don’t?

Who or what caused the Big Bang?

Law of causality is as binding as any other in physics.

Stop playing games.

You don’t want to answer to the Supreme Being. Man up about it. Stop being a spoiled brat about it and face it. Your defiance is nothing new, nothing clever. All that you waste your life on will pass by in a flash. And it will be over forever and ever.

Then what?

Read the book. Most atheists pride themselves on being studious. Be sure to note what the Judeo-Christian Bible informs humanity about what is and what is to come. It’s the one that bears the divine footprints / signature (like Job the oldest book of the Bible that peaks of cosmology like the earth being suspended in space and rotating).

Jesus is the most real. The rest of the humanity are the fakes. Especially atheists.

Did the atheist agree that you proved him wrong?
 

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I have no idea what you are talking about. We will in the next age have absolute, though perhaps still incomplete, knowledge of and about God. It will then not be a matter of faith. We will then see him as He is.
What’s appearing as these thoughts?

Yes, and the members of that kingdom are those who, having no direct knowledge of or about God, do sincerely believe in God. Faith is the distinguishing characteristic of the child of God.

Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Who knows this?
 

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I don't understand the question.
What’s appearing as that thought?
What is aware of, conscious of… the thought that there is, understanding?

Those who have been taught or read the Bible and believed.
What’s appearing as that thought?
What is aware of, conscious of… the thought that there is, knowing or someone who knows?
 

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How likely is it that someone, anyone, who doesn’t know an original can spot a fake?
 

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What’s appearing as that thought?
What is aware of, conscious of… the thought that there is, understanding?


What’s appearing as that thought?
What is aware of, conscious of… the thought that there is, knowing or someone who knows?
I still have absolutely no idea what you are asking or what you are even talking about.
 

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I still have absolutely no idea what you are asking or what you are even talking about.
Question the idea you already have to see if it’s presumed… if interested more in what is true, than the idea.
 
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