Christians are no longer under the law or subject to it. Under the New Covenant the law has been abolished, Ephesians 2:15. Jesus nailed it to his cross, Colossians 2:14. Under the New Covenant God's people are led by the Holy Spirit, not the law. John 16:13. Christians are not Pharisees.
JESUS: The End of All Laws, Rules, Commandments and Religions
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Bob Estey
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You can do anything you want, but if you commit adultery, bear false witness against someone, steal, of murder, you'll get yourself into trouble.
If you are indwelt with the Holy Spirit you will not do those things. The law and the commandments do not keep us from sinning. Paul said that the law and the commandments actually promote sin, Romans 7:7-10.
Bob Estey
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The commandments make us aware of what actions will get us into trouble. We are not born with this knowledge.
St. SteVen
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What about our God-given human conscience?
From my perspective, the law (the TCs) confirms what we already know inherently of God's law in our conscience.
Bob Estey
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I think God IS our conscience, and after we've read the Bible, he can remind us of what is in the Bible.
St. SteVen
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Right. There is something to that.
What do you make of this?
Romans 2:14-16 NIV
(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law,
do by nature things required by the law,
they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law.
15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts,
their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts
sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)
16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets
through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
Everyone knows when they have sinned, even little children.
BarneyFife
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BarneyFife
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St. SteVen
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@Bob Estey @BarneyFife
Galatians 5:4 NIV
You who are trying to be justified
by the law have been alienated from Christ;
you have fallen away from grace.
Galatians 5:4 NIV
You who are trying to be justified
by the law have been alienated from Christ;
you have fallen away from grace.
St. SteVen
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Thank God they have all been abolished, Ephesians 2:15. Jesus nailed them to his cross, Colossians 2:14.
BarneyFife
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Well, that's very interesting—a covenant that cancels itself out. You'd think modern lawyers would have picked up on that as a model by now. How long was it in force?
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Behold
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People in Hell, are there because they are not born again.
If you want to go the Heaven, then Jesus said "You must be born again".
Behold
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God leaves faith to your free will, that is True.
Just like He allowed Adam the free will to bite the Apple.
Just Like Jesus said of the Jerusalem Jew......"i would have gathered you to myself but YOU... WOULD... NOT"
See that?
That is God allowing Free Will.
God honors your choices., as you made them all.
amigo de christo
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The born again believe in and follow the Great shepard of the sheep .
The born again have been born again . no born again lamb would ever
make the claim one does not need to beleive on Christ .
No born again would follow another religoin another god .
THE BORN AGAIN BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST
YEA , i say the BORN AGAIN love and embrace HIS WORDS . FOR a born again
has been born OF SPIRIT and OF TRUTH . and TRUTH dont deny TRUTH now do it . Now raise those hands
ITS LORD PRAISING TIME in the building and round the world .
Many have made themselves the enemy of GOD for they have made themselves the enemy of HIS CHRIST
and through another love , another idea have made the path to GOD VERY BROAD INDEED . THIS lamb WONT HEEED A ONE of them .
amigo de christo
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Yet notice he did first warn . YE shall NOT eat of that tree .
As joshua and others have said , CHOOSE YE THIS DAY WHOM YE SHALL SERVE
as for the lambs ITS GONNA BE THE CHRIST OF GOD we do serve .
amigo de christo
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Oh HE HONORS the choices all right . To those who DENIED JESUS THE CHRIST
GOD WILL HONOR HIS WORD TOO . IF we deny HIM , BELIEVE YOU ME HE GONNA DENY all who did so .
And what a man sows that shall he reap . HE WHO HONORS THE SON HONORS THE FATHER
HE who honors NOT THE SON , HONORS NOT THE FATHER .
And it aint gonna be some great grand honor in the lake that burneth with fire .
THOUGH HE WILL SURELY HONOR HIS WORD . GOD WONT BE DENIED . IF a man DENIES JESUS
GUESS WHO HE JUST DENIED . GOD .
Behold
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And to honor the Son is the Honor the Father.
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