I have answers but it will only broaden our argument. I've got you right where I want you now and that's good enough for me.
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LOL, LOL, LOL. so again we can take this as you can't explain nor answer, good you keep me where you want me, because it's
getting a little boring always correcting you. We know that you’re trying to learn, but you just cain’t. for the scriptures are true, 2 Timothy 3:7 "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
see ya,
PICJAG.
took that "Lord God" away from you, that hurt didn't it ..... 
oh well, back to the drawing board for you.
Oh great swelling words, "I have answers but it will only broaden our argument." You boast that you have knowledge, but you’re a no show, and you have no wisdom from above. our brother Jude is correct about your like, Jude 1:12 "These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots".
fair assessment.
PICJAG.
oh well, back to the drawing board for you. Oh great swelling words, "I have answers but it will only broaden our argument." You boast that you have knowledge, but you’re a no show, and you have no wisdom from above. our brother Jude is correct about your like, Jude 1:12 "These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots".
fair assessment.
PICJAG.
You should study what you are up against in the historical creeds before trying to take them on. They've withstood far more serious challenges than what Oneness can ever present.took that "Lord God" away from you, that hurt didn't it .....
Oh great swelling words, "I have answers but it will only broaden our argument." You boast that you have knowledge, but you’re a no show, and you have no wisdom from above. our brother Jude is correct about your like, Jude 1:12 "These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots".
fair assessment.
PICJAG.
that's "diversified" Oneness .... if you please. :cool:
as said before, if you just want to talk, that's what facebook, and tweeter are for.
now keep in mind that it was the "Lord God, JESUS" and his Spirit that sent ....... lol.
one last thing, this was enough brush beating for today, ....... lol.
see ya.
PICJAG.
GISMYS_7
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1 John 5:7 There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word,(Jesus) and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
yes, this verse is true, but many a christian missed what it is really saying. yes, there are three titles of the one "Spirit" that bare record in heaven. but these titles are just that .... titles of one Person. just as in baptism, in the name of the "Father", the "Son"/Word, and the name of the Holy Spirit. Father is not God name, nor Son, nor Holy Ghost. but the "NAME" of the Father is JESUS. the Name of the Son is JESUS, and the Name of the Holy Spirit is JESUS. one PERSON, three titles in a diversified state of sharing of the one Spirit.
"these" 3, ........ 3 what? these 3 titles are of the ONE TRUE and LIVING GOD, JESUS who is the Almighty in flesh.
these 3 title shows the 3 "dispensation" of God himself.
I AM THAT I AM. or him which is, (I AM, Gen. 1:1) and which was, (THAT, John 1:1) and which is (I AM, Rev. 1:1) to come.
"I AM", Spirit, without flesh, LORD, Father, Creator and Maker of all things, (OT). Genesis - Malachi, (the ROOT).
"THAT", Spirit, diversified in flesh, Lord, Saviour, and Redeemer, (NT), Matthews - John, (the OFFSPRING).
"I AM", Spirit, Glorified in Flesh, Comforter, and Mediator, (GRACE), Act - Revelation, (the NEW MAN, the NEW CREATION).
PICJAG.
The “Lord” Jesus, the Holy Spirit, Poured out on Pentecost.
Who Spirit was “poured out” on Pentecost, The “Lord” or the LORD’S?
OT scripture, Joel 2:28 "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Joel 2:29 "And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
Here in verses 28 and 29 God, the LORD, (all caps), said that he was going to “pour out” his/my “spirit”.
he said, “my spirit”. notice spirit here is small case “s” in spirit. THIS IS IMPORTANT, KEEP THIS IN MIND.
Now the fulfillment of Joel 2:28 & 29. Acts 2:1 "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
Acts 2:2 "And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
Acts 2:3 "And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
Acts 2:4 "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance”.
The apostle Peter confirm that this is what the Prophet Joel prophesied. Acts 2:16 "But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel”.
Two things to notice. #1. the Holy Ghost is IDENTIFIED as the “Spirit”, see verse 4 of Acts chapter 2 above. And John 4:24a states “God is a “Spirit”, indicating the “FATHER”. Uh O the Holy Spirit the “Father”...... yes, (keep this in mind).
#2. in Joel, God who is LORD, all caps, said he was pouring out “his/my spirit”, and spirit is small case “s” in spirit.
It seems like spirit, with the “s” lower case, to be poured out according to Joel, is found to be the “Spirit” with the “S” Capitalized on the fulfillment day of Pentecost. For the apostle Peter quoting Joel said,” my Spirit”. and that’s Spirit with the capital “S”. let’s hear it. Acts 2:17 "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams”:
But Joel said, “his/my spirit”, Joel 2:28 "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions”:.
Well “spirit” is not the same indicating “Spirit”. so was Joel and Peter in error? No, and here’s why. Acts 2:33 "Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear”.
He, the Lord Jesus, received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he, (the Lord Jesus), hath shed forth this. Ok, what give then? Answer, was it not the Lord Jesus, (the offspring, the diversity of God), who G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') himself in flesh. And he in the G2758 κενόω kenoo state is “spirit”, that’s spirit with the small case “s”. let’s confirm this. Luke 23:46 "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost”. there it is, just as Joel said, “pour out my, my, my spirit”. and it is the Lord Jesus who is pouring out his, his, his, Spirit while in the diversified state, and now inherited that which was his before the world was. let’s see.it, John 17:5 "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was”.
And the Father is “Spirit”, which Jesus is before the world was. Hence his pouring out of his “Spirit” on Pentecost.
Can we confirm who “poured out his, now his Spirit, in the Glorified state?” yes,
In Joel 2:28 God, the LORD, the Father, said, “I will pour out my spirit”. the I here is Jesus, why?
The word pour: in Hebrew is H8210 שָׁפַךְ shaphak (shaw-fak') v.
1. to spill forth (blood, a libation, liquid metal).
2. (of a solid) to mound up.
3. (figuratively) to expend (life, soul, complaint, money, etc.).
4. (intensively) to sprawl out.
[a primitive root]
KJV: cast (up), gush out, pour (out), shed(-der, out), slip.
Now in Acts 2:33 "Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear”.
shed: it is the Greek word, G1632 ἐκχέω ekcheo (ek-che'-ō) v.
ἐκχύνω ekchuno (ek-chï '-nō) [by variation]
1. to pour forth.
2. (figuratively) to bestow.
[from G1537 and cheo “to pour”]
KJV: gush (pour) out, run greedily (out), shed (abroad, forth), spill
there it is, Both words indicate the same meaning, "pour out". So it was the Lord Jesus who gave the Holy Spirit on Pentecost. As he JESUS promise, as the LORD, in Joel 2:28, now in his glorified state, per John 17.
By being in the diversified states, in a body, he is Glorified with the “Holy Spirit”, who he himself, before made or shared in a state of G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') himself in that body. For he is the Glorified Father with a body. hence the Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of God filling both heaven and earth. Amen.
This glorified, and diverse state is supported in, Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth”. the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God is “sent” now in the earth realm, making his enemies his footstool. Supportive scripture, Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool”.
Yes, it’s the LORD, the Spirit, the Holy Spirit, the “Father”, the ROOT, JESUS, who is making his diversified self, the Son, in flesh, the “OFFSPRING”, the “Lord”, the glorified spirit, his enemies his footstool.
It’s amazing how the bible make things so simple, comparing Spiritual things with Spiritual things. precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little.
Oh how the KJV of the bible is complex but yet so simple, especially when one have the right teacher.
PICJAG
A re-read of this post is best for clarity.
Who Spirit was “poured out” on Pentecost, The “Lord” or the LORD’S?
OT scripture, Joel 2:28 "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Joel 2:29 "And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
Here in verses 28 and 29 God, the LORD, (all caps), said that he was going to “pour out” his/my “spirit”.
he said, “my spirit”. notice spirit here is small case “s” in spirit. THIS IS IMPORTANT, KEEP THIS IN MIND.
Now the fulfillment of Joel 2:28 & 29. Acts 2:1 "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
Acts 2:2 "And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
Acts 2:3 "And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
Acts 2:4 "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance”.
The apostle Peter confirm that this is what the Prophet Joel prophesied. Acts 2:16 "But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel”.
Two things to notice. #1. the Holy Ghost is IDENTIFIED as the “Spirit”, see verse 4 of Acts chapter 2 above. And John 4:24a states “God is a “Spirit”, indicating the “FATHER”. Uh O the Holy Spirit the “Father”...... yes, (keep this in mind).
#2. in Joel, God who is LORD, all caps, said he was pouring out “his/my spirit”, and spirit is small case “s” in spirit.
It seems like spirit, with the “s” lower case, to be poured out according to Joel, is found to be the “Spirit” with the “S” Capitalized on the fulfillment day of Pentecost. For the apostle Peter quoting Joel said,” my Spirit”. and that’s Spirit with the capital “S”. let’s hear it. Acts 2:17 "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams”:
But Joel said, “his/my spirit”, Joel 2:28 "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions”:.
Well “spirit” is not the same indicating “Spirit”. so was Joel and Peter in error? No, and here’s why. Acts 2:33 "Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear”.
He, the Lord Jesus, received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he, (the Lord Jesus), hath shed forth this. Ok, what give then? Answer, was it not the Lord Jesus, (the offspring, the diversity of God), who G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') himself in flesh. And he in the G2758 κενόω kenoo state is “spirit”, that’s spirit with the small case “s”. let’s confirm this. Luke 23:46 "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost”. there it is, just as Joel said, “pour out my, my, my spirit”. and it is the Lord Jesus who is pouring out his, his, his, Spirit while in the diversified state, and now inherited that which was his before the world was. let’s see.it, John 17:5 "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was”.
And the Father is “Spirit”, which Jesus is before the world was. Hence his pouring out of his “Spirit” on Pentecost.
Can we confirm who “poured out his, now his Spirit, in the Glorified state?” yes,
In Joel 2:28 God, the LORD, the Father, said, “I will pour out my spirit”. the I here is Jesus, why?
The word pour: in Hebrew is H8210 שָׁפַךְ shaphak (shaw-fak') v.
1. to spill forth (blood, a libation, liquid metal).
2. (of a solid) to mound up.
3. (figuratively) to expend (life, soul, complaint, money, etc.).
4. (intensively) to sprawl out.
[a primitive root]
KJV: cast (up), gush out, pour (out), shed(-der, out), slip.
Now in Acts 2:33 "Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear”.
shed: it is the Greek word, G1632 ἐκχέω ekcheo (ek-che'-ō) v.
ἐκχύνω ekchuno (ek-chï '-nō) [by variation]
1. to pour forth.
2. (figuratively) to bestow.
[from G1537 and cheo “to pour”]
KJV: gush (pour) out, run greedily (out), shed (abroad, forth), spill
there it is, Both words indicate the same meaning, "pour out". So it was the Lord Jesus who gave the Holy Spirit on Pentecost. As he JESUS promise, as the LORD, in Joel 2:28, now in his glorified state, per John 17.
By being in the diversified states, in a body, he is Glorified with the “Holy Spirit”, who he himself, before made or shared in a state of G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') himself in that body. For he is the Glorified Father with a body. hence the Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of God filling both heaven and earth. Amen.
This glorified, and diverse state is supported in, Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth”. the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God is “sent” now in the earth realm, making his enemies his footstool. Supportive scripture, Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool”.
Yes, it’s the LORD, the Spirit, the Holy Spirit, the “Father”, the ROOT, JESUS, who is making his diversified self, the Son, in flesh, the “OFFSPRING”, the “Lord”, the glorified spirit, his enemies his footstool.
It’s amazing how the bible make things so simple, comparing Spiritual things with Spiritual things. precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little.
Oh how the KJV of the bible is complex but yet so simple, especially when one have the right teacher.
PICJAG
A re-read of this post is best for clarity.
GINOLJC, to all.
"Jesus, Pentecost, Holy Spirit"
Picking up from where we left off at the last post. Jesus is the Holy Ghost who came on the day of Pentecost. supportive scripture,
John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
John 14:17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you".
the Lord Jesus told them exacitly how he was coming to them. listen, John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him".
in verse 18, the Lord Jesus was very, very, clear about who is coming, He himself. "I will come to you". and in verse 21 he tells us how he is coming. Judas not Iscariot pressed him on how he is coming. listen, John 14:22 "Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?". BINGO, excellent question, now his answer, John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him". (someone said, they both sent the Holy Spirit ........ smile, Oh well).
ABODE here is, take up residence, or indwelling. so apperantly the Lord Jesus is not coming in flesh, so in Spirit.
this is IMPORTANT. he, Jesus the Lord said that he will "Manifest" not "appear". for his second coming is in "apperance" which is to come at the end. but he said that he would "Manifest". and that's in Spirit, with the gifts of the Spirit. for our Lord will only "Appear" twice, and the second "apperance" is yet to come, supportive scripture. Hebrews 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation". and this will happen...... Revelation 1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen".
here in "apperance" the second time, but the Lord Jesus said that he would "Manifest" himself. so when did this happen? let's see.
Acts 2:1 "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
Acts 2:2 "And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
Acts 2:3 "And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
Acts 2:4 "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
so, one of the "MANIFESTATION" of the Spirit is "speaking in others tongues", as were here done on Pentecost. so can we confirm this? yes, 1 Corinthians 12:10 "To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues". there is the tongues. now who manifest these gifts listed here in 1 Corinthians 12:8-11. let's see, verse 7. 1 Corinthians 12:7 "But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal". there's that "Manifestation" Judas asked about, and notice, it's the Spirit who is God, the "FATHER", per John 4:24a. Jesus is that Spirit, the FATHER, the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 4:8 "Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men". the gifts of the Lord Jesus is in his Spirit, the Holy Spirit. he said "I will not leave you comfortless, I will come to you". and in that coming he said that he will "MANIFEST" himself. yes he did, on the day of Pentecost.
Jesus is the Holy Spirit who came on Pentecost, he's the "ANOTHER" COMFORTER, the Holy Spirit. amen.
PICJAG
"Jesus, Pentecost, Holy Spirit"
Picking up from where we left off at the last post. Jesus is the Holy Ghost who came on the day of Pentecost. supportive scripture,
John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
John 14:17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you".
the Lord Jesus told them exacitly how he was coming to them. listen, John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him".
in verse 18, the Lord Jesus was very, very, clear about who is coming, He himself. "I will come to you". and in verse 21 he tells us how he is coming. Judas not Iscariot pressed him on how he is coming. listen, John 14:22 "Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?". BINGO, excellent question, now his answer, John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him". (someone said, they both sent the Holy Spirit ........ smile, Oh well).
ABODE here is, take up residence, or indwelling. so apperantly the Lord Jesus is not coming in flesh, so in Spirit.
this is IMPORTANT. he, Jesus the Lord said that he will "Manifest" not "appear". for his second coming is in "apperance" which is to come at the end. but he said that he would "Manifest". and that's in Spirit, with the gifts of the Spirit. for our Lord will only "Appear" twice, and the second "apperance" is yet to come, supportive scripture. Hebrews 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation". and this will happen...... Revelation 1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen".
here in "apperance" the second time, but the Lord Jesus said that he would "Manifest" himself. so when did this happen? let's see.
Acts 2:1 "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
Acts 2:2 "And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
Acts 2:3 "And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
Acts 2:4 "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
so, one of the "MANIFESTATION" of the Spirit is "speaking in others tongues", as were here done on Pentecost. so can we confirm this? yes, 1 Corinthians 12:10 "To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues". there is the tongues. now who manifest these gifts listed here in 1 Corinthians 12:8-11. let's see, verse 7. 1 Corinthians 12:7 "But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal". there's that "Manifestation" Judas asked about, and notice, it's the Spirit who is God, the "FATHER", per John 4:24a. Jesus is that Spirit, the FATHER, the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 4:8 "Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men". the gifts of the Lord Jesus is in his Spirit, the Holy Spirit. he said "I will not leave you comfortless, I will come to you". and in that coming he said that he will "MANIFEST" himself. yes he did, on the day of Pentecost.
Jesus is the Holy Spirit who came on Pentecost, he's the "ANOTHER" COMFORTER, the Holy Spirit. amen.
PICJAG
Ananias and his wife Sapphira, who did they lie to?
Acts 5:1 "But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
Acts 5:2 "And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
Acts 5:3 "But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Acts 5:4 "Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
So clearly the Holy Ghost is God. Acts 5:5 "And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things”.
Note: remember Ananias wife, Sapphira, was privy to this act, or this lie, which they presented to the apostle.
Acts 5:7 "And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
Acts 5:8 "And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
Acts 5:9 "Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
Acts 5:10 "Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
HOLD IT, the Spirit of the Lord, better know as the Spirit of Christ, is the Holy Ghost?. Only Clark Commentary, Vincent's Word Studies, Mark Dunagan Commentaries, and the English Annotations on the Holy Bible by Matthew Poole, 1685, was the only one's who admitted in their Commentaries that the Spirit of the Lord is the Holy Ghost, who is God.
So we have the Spirit of the Lord, and that’s Spirit with the cap “S” in Spirit, who is the Jesus, (know by the title, the Son) and we have the Holy Ghost as (God, Per John 4:24a, known by the title, the Father), are the same “ONE” person.
Uh O, the trinity doctrine is dead on arrival. Here we have the clear cut assessment of the ONE TRUE and LIVING GOD …. JESUS the Christ, who is the Holy Spirit "shared" or Diversified in flesh, now Glorified in Flesh as the ONE TRUE GOD.
Both Ananias and his wife Sapphira tested the Lord Jesus, God, the Holy Spirit, to see if he’s the true omniscient Spirit. What a hard way to find out. Oh well many will go down the same road of “privy” deception. For what's done in the dark will come to light. and many will stay on that road, for men love darkness more than light. there are many Ananias and Sapphira in the world today, even when they see the scriptures staring them in the face.
One might want to read this account in acts again.
PICJAG.
Acts 5:1 "But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
Acts 5:2 "And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
Acts 5:3 "But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Acts 5:4 "Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
So clearly the Holy Ghost is God. Acts 5:5 "And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things”.
Note: remember Ananias wife, Sapphira, was privy to this act, or this lie, which they presented to the apostle.
Acts 5:7 "And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
Acts 5:8 "And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
Acts 5:9 "Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
Acts 5:10 "Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
HOLD IT, the Spirit of the Lord, better know as the Spirit of Christ, is the Holy Ghost?. Only Clark Commentary, Vincent's Word Studies, Mark Dunagan Commentaries, and the English Annotations on the Holy Bible by Matthew Poole, 1685, was the only one's who admitted in their Commentaries that the Spirit of the Lord is the Holy Ghost, who is God.
So we have the Spirit of the Lord, and that’s Spirit with the cap “S” in Spirit, who is the Jesus, (know by the title, the Son) and we have the Holy Ghost as (God, Per John 4:24a, known by the title, the Father), are the same “ONE” person.
Uh O, the trinity doctrine is dead on arrival. Here we have the clear cut assessment of the ONE TRUE and LIVING GOD …. JESUS the Christ, who is the Holy Spirit "shared" or Diversified in flesh, now Glorified in Flesh as the ONE TRUE GOD.
Both Ananias and his wife Sapphira tested the Lord Jesus, God, the Holy Spirit, to see if he’s the true omniscient Spirit. What a hard way to find out. Oh well many will go down the same road of “privy” deception. For what's done in the dark will come to light. and many will stay on that road, for men love darkness more than light. there are many Ananias and Sapphira in the world today, even when they see the scriptures staring them in the face.
One might want to read this account in acts again.
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1. There is only one God (e.g., Rom. 3:30)
2. The Father is God (e.g., John 6:27)
3. Jesus is God (e.g., John 20:28; Rom. 9:5; 2 Peter 1:1)
4. The Holy Spirit is God (e.g., Acts 5:3–5)
5. These Three are distinct persons (e.g., John 14:16–17)
On the Mount of tranfiguration
“While he was still speaking, suddenly a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said: This is My beloved Son. I take delight in Him. Listen to Him! When the disciples heard it, they fell facedown and were terrified. Then Jesus came up, touched them, and said, “Get up; don’t be afraid.”” (Matthew 17:5–7) (HCSB)
“For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.” (2 Peter 1:16–18) (KJV 1900)
Jesus' Baptism
“And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” (Matthew 3:16–17) (KJV 1900)
Stephen's death
“But Stephen, filled by the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven. He saw God’s glory, with Jesus standing at the right hand of God, and he said, “Look! I see the heavens opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!”” (Acts 7:55–56) (HCSB)
"On the Mount of tranfiguration". only the "Root", the Father and the "Offspring", the Son was present, where is your third person? again your false doctrine exposed.
"Jesus' Baptism". only the "Root" and the "Offspring" was present. the dove the Holy Spirit, the "root", and the son, "the offsprint", a voice?", don't assume anything. if the bible don't tell who the voice it is, don't add to his word. again your false doctrine exposed.
Now, let's really expose your false dead doctrine clearly.
"Stephen's death". Jesus standing at the right hand of God? ..... (smile). have you not read? God is a Spirit, per John 4:24a. God, the Father, who is Spirit has no side, or hand to stand next to... the term "Right hand or Arm of God" is a anthropomorphism, LOL. if you don't know what the word mean look it up. listen, Jeremiah 23:24 "Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD". and on top of that God is invisable.
my my, never learning. understand something, Jesus is the Arm of God, revealed, which is the power of God, meaning he is God. scripture, 1 Corinthians 1:24 "But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God". let's see this arm clearly. Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me". God's "OWN ARM" is the Lord Jesus.now you have a big, BIG, problem, because Jesus, the Son is God the Father own ARM... lol. if they are separate person how can the son be the Father own ARM.... LOL, LOL, LOL. listen, Isaiah 53:1 "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
Isaiah 53:2 "For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. (THE "HE" HERE IS JESUS, THE SON)
Isaiah 53:3 "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
God's OWN ARM is not a separate "PERSON".... I would laugh, but this is too serious of our Father business.
did you not hear our brother Stephen? listen. Acts 7:59 "And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit". did you hear Stephen?
see, the "he" in Isaiah 53 is God, the LORD, the Father, own ARM. that right there again just destroyed your trinity doctrine again. the Son is the Father's OWN ARM. one has to be blind not to see the TRUTH here.
so how can our brother Stephen see the Lord STANDING phyically next to his own self?. see how ignorant that it.
Isaiah 53 shows us that the "ARM" of God is a "HE", the Lord JESUS, his OWNSELF, "diversified in flesh. listen, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me". the ARM of GOD is GOD...
supportive scripture, John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God". now the icing on the cake, John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth".see, the Son was made flesh, so how is the ARM of God, is the Father's "OWN" right ARM? for he said, "therefore mine own arm". his "OWN" ARM. yes, Jesus is the ARM of God, God himself in flesh, per John 1:14
dave, you been embarrassed again, and again with your false doctrine of the trinity. yes, the scriptures are true, 2 Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2 Thessalonians 2:12 "That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness". quit carry around that dead horse doctrine called the trinity, which is a lie. how many more scriptures must we show you that lie?.
well God is Right, "it's a STRONG delusion". oh well....... we will leave you with, Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned".
and talking about Israel being hardheaded, and stuffnecked...... well they are still here....
PICJAG.
You have no defense against scripture already provided."On the Mount of tranfiguration". only the "Root", the Father and the "Offspring", the Son was present, where is your third person? again your false doctrine exposed.
"Jesus' Baptism". only the "Root" and the "Offspring" was present. the dove the Holy Spirit, the "root", and the son, "the offsprint", a voice?", don't assume anything. if the bible don't tell who the voice it is, don't add to his word. again your false doctrine exposed.
Now, let's really expose your false dead doctrine clearly.
"Stephen's death". Jesus standing at the right hand of God? ..... (smile). have you not read? God is a Spirit, per John 4:24a. God, the Father, who is Spirit has no side, or hand to stand next to... the term "Right hand or Arm of God" is a anthropomorphism, LOL. if you don't know what the word mean look it up. listen, Jeremiah 23:24 "Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD". and on top of that God is invisable.
now you have a big, BIG, problem, because Jesus, the Son is God the Father own ARM... lol. if they are separate person how can the son be the Father own ARM.... LOL, LOL, LOL. listen, Isaiah 53:1 "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
Isaiah 53:2 "For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. (THE "HE" HERE IS JESUS, THE SON)
Isaiah 53:3 "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
God's OWN ARM is not a separate "PERSON".... I would laugh, but this is too serious of our Father business.
did you not hear our brother Stephen? listen. Acts 7:59 "And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit". did you hear Stephen?
see, the "he" in Isaiah 53 is God, the LORD, the Father, own ARM. that right there again just destroyed your trinity doctrine again. the Son is the Father's OWN ARM. one has to be blind not to see the TRUTH here.
so how can our brother Stephen see the Lord STANDING phyically next to his own self?. see how ignorant that it.
Isaiah 53 shows us that the "ARM" of God is a "HE", the Lord JESUS, his OWNSELF, "diversified in flesh. listen, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me". the ARM of GOD is GOD...
see, the Son was made flesh, so how is the ARM of God, is the Father's "OWN" right ARM? for he said, "therefore mine own arm". his "OWN" ARM. yes, Jesus is the ARM of God, God himself in flesh, per John 1:14
dave, you been embarrassed again, and again with your false doctrine of the trinity. yes, the scriptures are true, 2 Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2 Thessalonians 2:12 "That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness". quit carry around that dead horse doctrine called the trinity, which is a lie. how many more scriptures must we show you that lie?.
well God is Right, "it's a STRONG delusion". oh well....... we will leave you with, Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned".
and talking about Israel being hardheaded, and stuffnecked...... well they are still here....
PICJAG.
so again we can take this as you have noithing to rebut. so now Stephen's death vision is taken away.
lol, lol, lol.
PICJAG
as we said dave, if you just want to talk, that's what facebook and tweeter is for ....... :cool:
now if you want to discuss the scriptures, we're game. else, FB and Tw you go.
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