Tong2020 said:
To take that command more than the matter of food and eating, is going beyond the commandment, right? Right.
I disagree, the fact that the scriptures say to abstain from blood I believe goes beyond eating. I believe you refrain from blood as you would refrain from sexual immorality and idolatry.
Well, we sure can read in Acts 15:29 "to abstain from blood". I have already shown you what the original Greek text means that was translated "abstain". Moreso, I was asking for you to clarify what you meant by abstaining from blood, more than it pertaining to food and eating of it. You just say it is the same as abstaining from sexual immorality and idolatry. You see, sexual immorality is easily understood and so is idolatry and so abstaining from it is easily understood. However, that is not the case with blood, for blood isn't like the two. Abstaining, or better yet "
apechesthai" from blood only tells us to to hold back, keep off, to be away, be distant from blood. You claim that in Acts 15:29, the "
apechesthai" from blood there is more than the eating of it or taking it as food, but more. The matter of not eating it, that is supported in scriptures. I am asking you for scriptures that support what you say is more to that. But you have not done so. That could only mean that, more than the not eating of it as food, what you say then only is coming from you and not from scriptures.
That's one. Another is the out of context argument which you have not refuted nor had given a counter argument.
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Tong2020 said:
when Jesus came and had sacrificed His life, resurrected and ascended back to where HE was before, in heaven, such covenant was replaced by a new covenant. So, we must be concerned now of the new covenant.
Even though Christians were not under the Mosaic law, it was “necessary” that they abstain from blood. Was that just the apostles’ personal opinion? Not at all. As they stated, that decision was made in accord with God’s holy spirit.
The first Judeo-Christian congregation in the decision reported on in
Acts 15 made a distinction between the Law given to Israel through Moses and the command given through Noah to all the world.
You just repeat the same argument you have which I already have given counter arguments. Besides, in Acts 15, there was not a mention of Noah and the commandment to him to not eat
flesh with its life,
that is, its blood. The basis of Acts 15:29 is found in Acts 15:21 which make mention of Moses, which takes reference then to the Mosaic Law. So, out of context, as I pointed out.
The command to abstain from blood was not a mere dietary restriction but was a serious moral requirement, as is seen by the fact that it was as serious to Christians as abstaining from idolatry or fornication.
Can those who plead their ‘Christian liberty’ in regard to this matter point us to any part of the Word of God in which this prohibition is subsequently annulled? If not, may we be allowed to ask, By what authority, except his own, can any of the laws of God be repealed?
And again here, you just keep repeating your statement there. You could not clarify what you meant by abstaining from blood just as abstaining from sexual immorality and idolatry. You also could not explain why only the three were commanded and many others where not, such as to not murder, to not steal, to not bear false witness, to not use the name of the Lord God in vain, etc... which are equally serious as sexual immorality and idolatry.
With regards your questions, I have already addressed that in my post#609. In fact, since you just repeat yourself here, all that you have said were addressed in that post. It was Jesus Christ that replaced the covenant that contains the covenant laws, with the new covenant. Jesus Himself even comfortably and repeatedly and with clarity, spoke in a figure of speech which involves the drinking of blood.
If you cannot give clarification of your statements, can't give a refutation of the arguments I gave to you or give a counter argument, but just repeat your disagreement to them and repeat what it is you believe, I guess this topic comes to its end. For then I have nothing new to consider coming from you.
Tong
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