Knowing the Day and the Hour of the Lord's Coming

[ScottA]

I asked you to provide the scriptures that justify what you were claiming, not for my benefit, but for the benefit of other readers of this forum. The scriptures that you have listed do not support your claim that Israel is finished in God's eyes.

You are wrong, as I have explained already.

You have claimed through the enlightening of the "spirit," that God wants nothing more to do with the nation of Israel.

No--that is not my claim. "Finished" (as Jesus said), does not mean "God wants nothing more to do with the nation of Israel."

Now it is not my role to bring correction to you, that is God's role, and He will do a much more thorough job than what I could do.

It is my understanding that the visitation of the fathers' iniquities upon their children and the children's children during the third and the fourth generation/age of the existence of Abraham's descendants, will draw to its designation conclusion in around 20 years' time.

From the scriptures, it is also my understanding the allocated 2,300-year period for the Little Horn to trample God's sanctuary and His Earthly Hosts will come to its completion in around 20 years' time when the Isaiah 24:21-22 judgement of the heavenly hosts will take place in heaven and the kings of the earth will be gathered to Armageddon to be judged after which the judged heavenly hosts and the judged Kings of the earth will be gathered together and imprisoned in the Bottomless pit for many days, nominally for 1,000 years, to await the time of their punishment.

From the scriptures, it is also my understanding that God will in around 20 years' time begin gathering all of Israel to Himself after the time of the Gentiles is completed and will teach them about the foundation stone of His religion where they are living scattered throughout all of the earth where they are living, so that they can be a blessing to all of the peoples of the earth.

It is also my understanding that God will fulfil His covenant of removing the beasts of the field, i.e. the beasts of Daniel 7:1-12, from the face of the earth so that Israel can enjoy a period of peace before they are released once more after their imprisonment in the Bottomless Pit for 1,000 years.

It is also my understanding that God will make like new again, the covenant that Israel rebelled against around three and a half thousand years ago at Mt Sinai, after God had brought them out of Egypt with great signs and wonders, to be His Kingdom of Priests, a Holy Nation and His possession among the gentile nations once more.

Also, from Daniel 7, it is my understanding, that just after the judgement of the heavenly hosts in heaven, in around 20 years' time, that the Son of Man will be brought before the Ancient of time to receive from Him a dominion over all of the peoples of the earth, that they should worship Him. It is my understanding from Rev 20 that Christ's priestly rule in Heaven will be for 1,000 years before it will be challenged once again, when the Bottomless pit is unlocked for the Little While Period.

Also from Daniel 2, it is my understanding that during the time of "these kings," having dominion over the land of Babylon, during this present time, that God will begin establishing His everlasting Kingdom here on the earth which will also be given to the Son of Man/Christ when He receive His dominion over all of the peoples of the earth.

ScottA, I agree with you that many false teachers, over the past centauries have lied to us about the End Times. However, if you can find fault with what I have presented above as to what will unfold in our near future, then please present your documented case with the scriptural backing that you have found in your reading in your rebuttal.

Again, I have explained already.

Your understanding (which is also most common among the church) is in accord with the "lie" foretold by Paul and also according to Peter, which was taught by "false teachers", saying that Jesus would not come "soon" or "quickly", that all He spoke of would not "shortly take place" as He said, and that He has not returned to many in the glory of the Father (in spirit) beginning "shortly" after He went to the Father.

Many have not believed what they have not yet seen. For, "The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit" (John 3:8), and “The kingdom of God does not come with observation" (Luke 17:20).

 

[VictoryinJesus]

This is why:

Matthew 6:34​

Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.​

Because, today, is that "tomorrow" Jesus spoke of. The great unveiling of Christ has come already, but He spoke in preparation of our time when the unveiling would be complete.

I wish I understood what you are saying.

I’m glad you posted Matthew 6:34 because I’ve never noticed.
Matthew 6:33 Lexicon: "But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

Matthew 6:34 Lexicon: "So do not worry about tomorrow; for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.


What it brings to mind is:
Care not for the things of tomorrow

For Tomorrow will care for itself…Philippians 2:20-21 For I have no man likeminded, who will naturally care for your state. [21] For all seek their own, not the things which are Jesus Christ's.

It’s strange how tomorrow will care for itself. Is that a pep talk or more considering Matthew 6:34 begins with seek first the kingdom of God and His Righteousness and all these things will be added unto you. (faith, virtue, knowledge, temperance, patience, godliness, brotherly kindness, charity. 2 Peter 1:5-7)

And, Philippians 2:20-21 For I have no man likeminded, who will naturally care for your state.

Each day has its own trouble.

 

[Jay Ross]

You are wrong, as I have explained already.


No--that is not my claim. "Finished" (as Jesus said), does not mean "God wants nothing more to do with the nation of Israel."


Again, I have explained already.

Your understanding (which is also most common among the church) is in accord with the "lie" foretold by Paul and also according to Peter, which was taught by "false teachers", saying that Jesus would not come "soon" or "quickly", that all He spoke of would not "shortly take place" as He said, and that He has not returned to many in the glory of the Father (in spirit) beginning "shortly" after He went to the Father.

Many have not believed what they have not yet seen. For, "The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit" (John 3:8), and “The kingdom of God does not come with observation" (Luke 17:20).

Scotta, the person telling the lies, is you. When Christ said that He was coming quickly, he was right, but what man understands as coming quickly, is very different to what God understands about coming quickly.

When God/Jesus states that He is coming quickly, it is more in context of unexpectedly coming when we least expect it to happen.

The consequences of telling a different story to what is in the scriptures has consequences that I would not wish on anyone. If what we believe prophetically does not line up with the scriptures, then the source of that lie is not from God but rather the source is from Satan.

God has not changed His mind about gathering Israel to Himself and of renew/refresh the Kingdom of Priests, a Holy Nation and His Possession among the Nations Covenant in the near future. God has not abandoned Israel in His redemption of the nations and the bestowing of the gift of life at the time of the final judgement of those who will be judged to have taken root in His prepared fertile soil.

Goodbye

 

[ScottA]

I wish I understood what you are saying.

I’m glad you posted Matthew 6:34 because I’ve never noticed.
Matthew 6:33 Lexicon: "But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

Matthew 6:34 Lexicon: "So do not worry about tomorrow; for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.


What it brings to mind is:
Care not for the things of tomorrow

For Tomorrow will care for itself…Philippians 2:20-21 For I have no man likeminded, who will naturally care for your state. [21] For all seek their own, not the things which are Jesus Christ's.

It’s strange how tomorrow will care for itself. Is that a pep talk or more considering Matthew 6:34 begins with seek first the kingdom of God and His Righteousness and all these things will be added unto you. (faith, virtue, knowledge, temperance, patience, godliness, brotherly kindness, charity. 2 Peter 1:5-7)

And, Philippians 2:20-21 For I have no man likeminded, who will naturally care for your state.

Each day has its own trouble.

There is both good and bad to letting your mind wander into every possibility.

The focus of this thread is the specific issue of the finish of Christ revealing all as foretold by Daniel and John, as being sealed until now. Matthew 6:34 simply shows a reason for looking at this specific time without being distracted by the greater overall revealing of all things by Christ (you have referred to) over literally all of time. In that passage, Jesus was in effect saying "that is then, and this is now"....and I am saying "the then He spoke of is now." In other words, He was saying not to be concerned about the overall so much as the here and now. Which, as it is written--is plenty, quite literally the finale.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

There is both good and bad to letting your mind wander into every possibility.

I don’t regret wander into every possibility. I’m grateful for any small shift in perspective.

The focus of this thread is the specific issue of the finish of Christ revealing all as foretold by Daniel and John, as being sealed until now. Matthew 6:34 simply shows a reason for looking at this specific time without being distracted by the greater overall revealing of all things by Christ (you have referred to) over literally all of time. In that passage, Jesus was in effect saying "that is then, and this is now"....and I am saying "the then He spoke of is now." In other words, He was saying not to be concerned about the overall so much as the here and now. Which, as it is written--is plenty, quite literally the finale.

Can you tell me again where you fit in “now”? I’ve read a few in this thread where you make reference to your part in now? Can you try again to tell me of where you are included and “now I am also” “a witness? Have I misunderstood? Forgive me if I’m misunderstanding but it sounds like from the days of Moses until now—-where you are saying until the days of you which is now, being revealed?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I am not going to keep entertaining your arguments. Here is what I was referring to, which--no, does not trump Paul's declaration, for they (and I) agree:

Revelation 10:7​

but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, the mystery of God would be finished, as He declared to His servants the prophets.​

As for my authority--you wouldn't know unless you completely understood the scriptures which themselves testify of not being revealed until now. God is my witness.

Lame way of ducking answering a brother. so are you saying you completely understand the Scriptures? are you also saying the seventh trumpet has sounded? You post very vague answers that say very little. this is not what a spokesman of th eLord does.

You know nothing of the sort.

I answered you already.

No you play word games and throw out word salad that answers nothing.

This may be the crux of the problem with our communication.

Yes--we are the children of Adam and Eve and original sin, after their kind, meaning dead to God.

Which is not so nicely stated as we "need to be made alive by faith"--because that does not fully state the fact that we must literally be born again--not as the old man glorified, but as a new creation.

No the crux of our communication issue is the fact that you love speaking like some gnostic mystic in stead of a person.

Yes we must be born again and made a brand new cretuare. But make no Mistake, Gods Word says our fleshly bodies will be glorified!

he contradiction is not mine, but is between that born of the flesh and that born of the Spirit. Which, if you do not rightly divide we have no communion with which to communicate all that is true...because I have rightly divided it, and still you think it mystical or worse.

No the way you talk to people is some gnostic mystic. You love mushing word salad instead of simply answering a question in a colloquial method which people can readily understand.

did God come down and tell yu directly that your bizarre hermeneutic is the right division of the Word? Or are you self appointed?

Now you are beginning to sound like Jospeh smith, Charles Taze Russell, Father Divine, Mary Baaker Eddy, ellen G. White, Joyce Meyer, David Koresh, Jim Jones, Sun Yung Moon, et al. You need to get in line with all the other cult leader wannabees who boldly proclaimed they had the right understanding given to tehm from god.

why shoulod we believe over all the dozens of others this century who claim the same special revelation you do? Especially when it contradicts the clear, plain teaching og god and His Word?????????????????????


BTW do you believe in transubstantiation???? Fourth time asking you.

 

[ScottA]

Scotta, the person telling the lies, is you. When Christ said that He was coming quickly, he was right, but what man understands as coming quickly, is very different to what God understands about coming quickly.

When God/Jesus states that He is coming quickly, it is more in context of unexpectedly coming when we least expect it to happen.

The consequences of telling a different story to what is in the scriptures has consequences that I would not wish on anyone. If what we believe prophetically does not line up with the scriptures, then the source of that lie is not from God but rather the source is from Satan.

God has not changed His mind about gathering Israel to Himself and of renew/refresh the Kingdom of Priests, a Holy Nation and His Possession among the Nations Covenant in the near future. God has not abandoned Israel in His redemption of the nations and the bestowing of the gift of life at the time of the final judgement of those who will be judged to have taken root in His prepared fertile soil.

Goodbye

Your ignorance and arrogance (and timing) is not unlike that of the Pharisees during Jesus' first advent.

By your logic, Jesus', Peter's, Paul's, and John's warnings and prophecies are wrong, and the church is correct. And you are now not even listening, misquoting me, and even accusing like you have the last word. Well, you don't.

As for Israel, they are with Christ, and yes, "It is finished." He told you, and now I have told you (again and again).

 

[ScottA]

I don’t regret wander into every possibility. I’m grateful for any small shift in perspective.

Can you tell me again where you fit in “now”? I’ve read a few in this thread where you make reference to your part in now? Can you try again to tell me of where you are included and “now I am also” “a witness? Have I misunderstood? Forgive me if I’m misunderstanding but it sounds like from the days of Moses until now—-where you are saying until the days of you which is now, being revealed?

Without giving witness to myself, of those things which are written: I am one of three, two are dead and I remain; was caught up to the third heaven, returned and tasked by God; endured training and waiting for nearly forty years before what was given to me in silence was then revealed in the fulness of time. Which regards "time no longer" and "the finish of the mystery of God as He declared to His servants the prophets", according to the prophecies of John.

 

[Jay Ross]

Just for your benefit ScottA, I have put the scriptures associated with the statement I had made in post #?? Above: -

It is my understanding that the visitation of the fathers' iniquities upon their children and the children's children during the third and the fourth generation/age of the existence of Abraham's descendants, will draw to its designation conclusion in around 20 years' time.

Based upon: -

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Exodus 20:4-6: - 4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve/worship them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.​

From the scriptures, it is also my understanding the allocated 2,300-year period for the Little Horn to trample God's sanctuary and His Earthly Hosts will come to its completion in around 20 years' time when the Isaiah 24:21-22 judgement of the heavenly hosts will take place in heaven and the kings of the earth will be gathered to Armageddon to be judged after which the judged heavenly hosts and the judged Kings of the earth will be gathered together and imprisoned in the Bottomless pit for many days, nominally for 1,000 years, to await the time of their punishment.

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Daniel 8:8-14: - 8 Therefore the male goat grew very great; but when he became strong, the large horn was broken, and in place of it four notable ones came up toward the four winds of heaven. 9 And out of one of them came a little horn which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the Glorious Land. 10 And it grew up to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and some of the stars to the ground, and trampled them. 11 He even exalted himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the place of His sanctuary/Temple was cast down. 12 Because of transgression, an army was given over to the horn to oppose the daily sacrifices; and he cast truth down to the ground. He did all this and prospered.​

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13 Then I heard a holy one speaking; and another holy one said to that certain one who was speaking, “How long will the vision be, concerning the daily sacrifices and the transgression of desolation/making desolate, the giving of both the sanctuary and the host to be trampled underfoot?”​

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14 And he said to me, “For two thousand three hundred days/evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary shall be cleansed.”​

and

Isaiah 24:21-22: -​

21It shall come to pass in that day​

That the Lord will punish on high the host of exalted ones,​

And on the earth the kings of the earth.​

22They will be gathered together,​

As prisoners are gathered in the pit,​

And will be shut up in the prison;​

After many days they will be punished.​

From the scriptures, it is also my understanding that God will, in around 20 years' time, begin gathering all of Israel to Himself after the time of the Gentiles is completed and will teach them about the foundation stone of His religion where they are living scattered throughout all of the earth, so that they can be a blessing to all of the peoples of the earth.

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Romans 11:25c-26a: - until the fullness {with respect to time} of the Gentiles comes to its completion. 26 After which all Israel will be saved,​

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Ezekiel 34:13: - 13 And I will bring them out from the peoples and gather them from the countries and will bring them into their own fertile field; I will feed them on the mountain(s) of Israel, {a metaphor for Israel’s religious basis}, {where they are living} in the {river} valleys and in all the inhabited places of the earth.​

It is also my understanding that God will fulfil His covenant of removing the beasts of the field, i.e. the beasts of Daniel 7:1-12, from the face of the earth so that Israel can enjoy a period of peace before they are released once more after their imprisonment in the Bottomless Pit for 1,000 years.

To be continued​

 

[Jay Ross]

Continued from post # 197 above ^^^

Ezekiel 34:25-30: - 25 "I will make a covenant of peace with them and cause evil beasts [1] to cease from the /earth; and they will dwell safely in the wilderness and sleep in the woods. 26 I will make them and the places all around My hill a blessing; and I will cause showers to come down in their season; there shall be showers of blessing. 27 Then the trees of the field shall yield their fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase. They shall be safe within my fertile field; and they shall know that I am the Lord, when I have broken the bands of their yoke and delivered them from the hand of those who enslaved them. 28 And they shall no longer be a prey for the nations, nor shall beasts of the earth devour them; but they shall dwell safely, and no one shall make them afraid. 29 I will raise up for them a garden of renown, and they shall no longer be consumed with hunger on the earth, nor bear the shame of the Gentiles anymore. 30 Thus they shall know that I, the Lord their God, am with them, and they, the house of Israel, are My people," says the Lord God.'"​

It is also my understanding that God will make like new again, the covenant that Israel rebelled against around three and a half thousand years ago at Mt Sinai, after God had brought them out of Egypt with great signs and wonders, to be His Kingdom of Priests, a Holy Nation and His possession among the gentile nations once more.

Jeremiah 31:31-34: - A New Covenant​

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31 "Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make like new again the covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah — 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the country of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."​

Also, from Daniel 7, it is my understanding, that just after the judgement of the heavenly hosts in heaven, in around 20 years' time, that the Son of Man will be brought before the Ancient of time to receive from Him a dominion over all of the peoples of the earth, that they should worship Him. It is my understanding from Rev 20 that Christ's priestly rule in Heaven will be for 1,000 years before it will be challenged once again, when the Bottomless pit is unlocked for the Little While Period.

Daniel 7:13-14: - ​

13 “I was watching in the night visions,​

And behold, One like the Son of Man,​

Coming with the clouds of heaven!​

He came to the Ancient of Days,​

And they brought Him near before Him.​

14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom,​

That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him.​

His dominion is an everlasting dominion,​

Which shall not pass away,​

And His kingdom the one​

Which shall not be destroyed.​

Also from Daniel 2, it is my understanding that during the time of "these kings," having dominion over the land of Babylon, during this present time, that God will begin establishing His everlasting Kingdom here on the earth which will also be given to the Son of Man/Christ when He receive His dominion over all of the peoples of the earth.

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Daniel 2:44-45: - 44 And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. 45 Inasmuch as you saw that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold—the great God has made known to the king what will come to pass after this. The dream is certain, and its interpretation is sure.”​

ScottA please feel free to rebut the above statements and scriptures if you want too.

Goodbye

Errors and omissions accepted

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[1] This is a reference to God’s judgement of the beastly Heavenly Hosts who will be judged during the time that God is turning His attention once more towards the Israelites in our near future, around the year 2044 AD give or take a year or so either way because of the uncertainty in the understanding of the relations between God’s timeframe and man’s understanding.

Isaiah 24:21-22 speaks of God Judging the Heavenly Hosts in Heaven and the kings of the earth on the earth and that they will be gathered together with the kings of the earth and imprisoned in a cistern/pit for many days to await the time of their punishment.

Daniel 7:11-12 also speaks of the time of the judgement of the four Beasts, referred to as the four winds of Heaven in Daniel 7:2 that causes a manifestation of the four respective beasts to rise up out of the sea of humanity with the dominate characteristic of the four respective beasts.

In Revelation 16:12-16 we are told that the kings of the earth after the signs performed by the three foul frog like spirits when they went out from the mouth of the Dragon, the False Prophet and the Beast would be to assemble them for battle, on the great day of God the Almighty at Armageddon where they will be judged as Isaiah 24:21-22 prophesied.

Paul wrote in Romans 11:25-26, that when the fullness with respect to time, that has been set for the Gentiles to trample God’s Sanctuary and His earthly Hosts, has drawn to its conclusion, after the 2,300-year period, and the subsequent judgement of the kings of the earth, all of Israel will be saved.

Ezekiel 34:28 repeats this same theme, where it points a second time to the beasts being removed from the face of the earth and not troubling Israel for a period of 1,000-years.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Without giving witness to myself, of those things which are written: I am one of three, two are dead and I remain; was caught up to the third heaven, returned and tasked by God; endured training and waiting for nearly forty years before what was given to me in silence was then revealed in the fulness of time. Which regards "time no longer" and "the finish of the mystery of God as He declared to His servants the prophets", according to the prophecies of John.

“I am one of three, two are dead and I remain…”
Is Paul one of the two that are dead?

 

[ScottA]

Lame way of ducking answering a brother. so are you saying you completely understand the Scriptures? are you also saying the seventh trumpet has sounded? You post very vague answers that say very little. this is not what a spokesman of th eLord does.

As I said, you wouldn't know. But, no, I am not saying I completely understand the scriptures--God does. But I do understand my part as it is given to me.

No, the seventh angel has not yet sounded.

 

[ScottA]

No you play word games and throw out word salad that answers nothing.

I gave you what you came looking for, sometimes nothing, but not withholding.

 

[ScottA]

But make no Mistake, Gods Word says our fleshly bodies will be glorified!

Not true. On the contrary, it is written, we are to be One in Christ with Him who is spirit.

 

[ScottA]

No the way you talk to people is some gnostic mystic. You love mushing word salad instead of simply answering a question in a colloquial method which people can readily understand.

did God come down and tell yu directly that your bizarre hermeneutic is the right division of the Word? Or are you self appointed?

Now you are beginning to sound like Jospeh smith, Charles Taze Russell, Father Divine, Mary Baaker Eddy, ellen G. White, Joyce Meyer, David Koresh, Jim Jones, Sun Yung Moon, et al. You need to get in line with all the other cult leader wannabees who boldly proclaimed they had the right understanding given to tehm from god.

why shoulod we believe over all the dozens of others this century who claim the same special revelation you do? Especially when it contradicts the clear, plain teaching og god and His Word?????????????????????


BTW do you believe in transubstantiation???? Fourth time asking you.

Again, I have answered your questions already. So much so, that you show a lack of comprehension. But it's more than that, isn't it?

The problem is, you don't understand how this works...and it irritates you, obviously. Which is your own fault. How is it that you do not know that the word from God comes first in parable, that must be revealed according to the Spirit? But you don't just ask questions--that much is easy. You meet hidden pearls with accusations and unbelief. Your spirit is not willing.

Meanwhile, surely you know better than to ask if "God came down and told me"....but rather caught me up in spirit to the third heaven, as I have made no secret of it, but have stated it numerous times.

 

[ScottA]

“I am one of three, two are dead and I remain…”
Is Paul one of the two that are dead?

There may be more of a biblical connection than I have yet realized. But no, my experience was one of a personal nature of personally being chosen--not as the best, but as the least.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

There may be more of a biblical connection than I have yet realized. But no, my experience was one of a personal nature of personally being chosen--not as the best, but as the least.

Okay, that helps. I have mixed feelings on whether to believe it or not. First, I’ve known way too many that claim things. Even men claiming to be Jesus Christ. I can see how “not I, but Christ lives in me” can be “as Christ”, but that isn’t what most of these going in front of cameras or gathering followers are saying. instead they put on a show trying to look like the painted Jesus, men have made with their own hands, at best a guess at what Jesus—the man—looked like. It’s pretty clear to see people who say and do things to gain admiration for themselves, authority over others and I don’t believe them. At this point with so many false claims, I don’t know if I would believe the real thing, if He was standing in front of me. I’m not so sure I have to because—He is Spirit, and I do believe the Voice I hear from the Word, which Voice is nothing like my own voice nor the voices of and in the world.

Your sharing of as one who has been called up to the third heaven…I pause at. Second, I don’t want to be like the Corinthians who kept badgering Paul to prove Christ spoke in him. I do see Paul did prove it, in willing to be weak that they be made strong.

Third, I’ll keep an open mind. I genuinely hope you are of a sound mind, Scott. If you are not, there is a greater chance neither am I of a sound mind.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

As I said, you wouldn't know. But, no, I am not saying I completely understand the scriptures--God does. But I do understand my part as it is given to me.

And I understand my part as given to me- so I guess that makes us equals then.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I gave you what you came looking for, sometimes nothing, but not withholding.

Now if you would just say it in common English instead of your mystic gibberish, maybe we all could understand what you are trying to say.

Do you speak like this to all people in everyday life or just when you are having conversations here?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Not true. On the contrary, it is written, we are to be One in Christ with Him who is spirit.

Sorry but you are wrong. Paul and Jesus both contradict you!