LEFT BEHIND ... what to do?

[Spiritual Israelite]

Yes that was my point it’s not a literal mark but a unrepentant condition of the heart

Right. It's not a literal, physical mark just as the seal of God is not a literal, physical seal, but represents the seal of the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13, Ephesians 4:30). I see the mark of the beast as basically the spiritual opposite of the seal of God.

Someone having the mark of the beast means they worship the beast and do not have their names written in the book of life (Rev 13:8) and they will end up in the lake of fire if they don't repent. So, the mark of the beast is a mark representing that someone is lost (unsaved). Salvation is a spiritual thing, not a physical thing, so there's no doubt in my mind that the mark of the beast is spiritual and not physical.

 

[Marty fox]

Right. It's not a literal, physical mark just as the seal of God is not a literal, physical seal, but represents the seal of the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13, Ephesians 4:30). I see the mark of the beast as basically the spiritual opposite of the seal of God.

Someone having the mark of the beast means they worship the best and do not have their names written in the book of life (Rev 13:8) and they will end up in the lake of fire if they don't repent. So, the mark of the beast is a mark representing that someone is lost (unsaved). Salvation is a spiritual thing, not a physical thing, so there's no doubt in my mind that the mark of the beast is spiritual and not physical.

Yes amenwhat else could it be?

 

[PinSeeker]

The "mark of the beast" as a sign that identifies those who worship the beast out of the sea (Revelation 13:1). The contextual significance of marking those who worship the beast is the opposite of the seal on the foreheads of those who worship the Lamb (Revelation 7:3, 14:1), so, yes, "the spiritual opposite of the seal of God." This contrast is particularly noted in Revelation 20:4, where those who are martyred for the Lamb are resurrected to reign with Christ. The mark and seal well image the two earthly groups who dominate the narrative. John, in his vision, intends the number 666 to be symbolic of what the beast and his followers represent: humankind in their ultimate rebellion against God, His Lamb, and the followers of the Lamb. John explains in Revelation 13:18 that the number 666 is the number of man. The number 7 is well established as a number of completeness or perfection. The number 6, being one less than 7, symbolizes humankind, which falls short of perfection... "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). So, the number 666 personifies the imperfection of man, even implying in the triple number the unholy trinity of the dragon, antichrist, and the false prophet. The vision calls John and his audience to discern the spirit of sinful humanity that accompanies the antichrist.

Grace and peace to all.

 

[Marty fox]

He didn't say unrepentant tho. Using your logic, the "unforgivable sin" contradicts John 3:16.

The context does say that what do you think it is?

If more than one scripture promise salvation to anyone who repents then the unforgivable sin has to be non-repentance.

Blasphemy of the holy Spirit is the rejection of the Holy Spirit rejecting the salvation of the Holy Spirit refusing to beleive the one true God

 

[doctrox]

This question was asked AI: If the Rapture of the Church occurred with over 2 billion people taken out of the Great Tribulation that just started and were caught up into Heaven, what advice would you give those left behind?

The hackneyed buzzwords "rapture" and "left behind" have caused massive hemorrhaging in the body of Christ. Most folks do not understand that the "one taken, one left" episode is NOT the tribulation. It is what is known as the reckoning (another topic for another time).

The entire "Left Behind" enterpri$e is based upon a perversion of Scripture: "Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." (Mat. 24:40-41). Isn't that the rapture? No, that's a classic twist created by the Rapture Cult.

Jesus says his return will be just like in the days of Noah. He says all of Noah's neighbors were unsaved people who were eating and drinking and they didn't know the flood was coming until it came and "took them all away." So when the flood came, who got "taken away"? The evil ones, who didn't know the judgement was coming: "And knew not until the flood came and took them all away; So shall also the coming of the son of man be." (Mat. 24:39).

Jesus says the one will be taken and the other left. So who got taken? The one who was destroyed, just as it was in the days of Noah. In fact, when the disciples asked where they were taken, Jesus said look for the vultures, for that's where the dead bodies will be: "And they answered and said unto Him, Where Lord? And He said unto them, Wheresoever the body is there will the eagles be gathered together." (Luke 17:37). IOW, you want to be left behind!

 

[ewq1938]

The context does say that what do you think it is?

If more than one scripture promise salvation to anyone who repents then the unforgivable sin has to be non-repentance.

Blasphemy of the holy Spirit is the rejection of the Holy Spirit rejecting the salvation of the Holy Spirit refusing to beleive the one true God

This completely ignores the meaning of the Greek language used. The unforgivable sin is blasphemy of the HS, and that word means to insult etc. That's what happened in the example given where Christ does miracles through the HS but the Pharisees claim he used an evil spirit therefore insulting the HS.

mk 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
mk 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

G988
ß?asf?µ?´a
blasphe¯mia
Thayer Definition:
1) slander, detraction, speech injurious, to another’s good name
2) impious and reproachful speech injurious to divine majesty
Part of Speech: noun feminine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G989
Citing in TDNT: 1:621, 107

 

[ewq1938]

If more than one scripture promise salvation to anyone who repents then the unforgivable sin has to be non-repentance.

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LOL

 

[ewq1938]

Jesus says the one will be taken and the other left. So who got taken?

The one taken/left is NOT part of the Noah/flood example so you are wrongly mixing two things as if they belong together.

The one taken is accepted, which is what the Greek word means. It does not mean to die, that is what the Greek word for left means.

Study the Greek language, not the English translation.

 

[Randy Kluth]

The one taken/left is NOT part of the Noah/flood example so you are wrongly mixing two things as if they belong together.

The one taken is accepted, which is what the Greek word means. It does not mean to die, that is what the Greek word for left means.

Study the Greek language, not the English translation.

This isn't a big thing, and we shouldn't fall out over it. But have you considered that both the "taken" and the "left" could be a condition of being under judgment from God?

I've looked back into past captivities and judgments of Israel, and it appears that their captors "took away" some to be slaves, and "left" some in the land to be slaves there in the fields. I don't think "taken" has a thing to do with a Rapture. It has to do with being taken away into exile, in my opinion.

 

[MatthewG]

Left behind series had me dreaming of an atomic bomb dropping.

Im not scared of this it truly did happen.

Walking in the spirit of the resurrected Lord Jesus, there is no fear.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Jesus says the one will be taken and the other left. So who got taken? The one who was destroyed, just as it was in the days of Noah. In fact, when the disciples asked where they were taken, Jesus said look for the vultures, for that's where the dead bodies will be: "And they answered and said unto Him, Where Lord? And He said unto them, Wheresoever the body is there will the eagles be gathered together." (Luke 17:37). IOW, you want to be left behind!

Lol, you have it backwards. Jesus _ when He comes _ with His army of angels _ is coming to wage war and judgment upon those who live on the earth, but before He does that, the final trumpet is blown and He takes home His Church. REVELATION 6-18 describes the carnage and those dead bodies that are left are eaten by birds.

Massive hemorrhaging? No Doc, you should get check out, likely you have a blockage in the brain preventing you from understanding? No, it's not physical- just kidding - it's scriptural discernment that you lack. Matthew 24:40-41scripture is not the only scripture that you can't understand. Please try to read _ slowly _ and pray before reading: 1 Thes. 4:16-17 & 1 Cor. 15:52 describes the same event.
The " as in the days if Noah..." actually supports a Pre-Trib view. He comes when normal life activities are taking place aside from the mocking and scoffing towards Noah - kinda like what you are doing!

 

[rebuilder 454]

Yes, that's where I get my view from the not repenting, thus the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (the unrepentant rejection of the holy Spirit) is what Jesus said that the unforgivable sin is.

Actually It was the scribing of Satan by the religious leaders to THE POWER of the Holy Spirit.
( calling the Holy Spirit satan)

Many Baptist leaders on you tube doing the exact same thing.

 

[rebuilder 454]

The context does say that what do you think it is?

If more than one scripture promise salvation to anyone who repents then the unforgivable sin has to be non-repentance.

Blasphemy of the holy Spirit is the rejection of the Holy Spirit rejecting the salvation of the Holy Spirit refusing to beleive the one true God

No, because all sinners do that.
All sinners reject the Holy Spirit.

If you read the text, you will see WHY Jesus invoked the unforgivable sin upon the Pharisees head.

 

[rebuilder 454]

The one taken/left is NOT part of the Noah/flood example so you are wrongly mixing two things as if they belong together.

The one taken is accepted, which is what the Greek word means. It does not mean to die, that is what the Greek word for left means.

Study the Greek language, not the English translation.

Very few people see that.
It is so simple but doctrine driven men can not acknowledge what Jesus said.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Then that is a contradiction of John 3:16 which promises salvation to anyone who repents. John 3:16 doesn't say "unless you receive the mark of the beast"

The biblecsays "...until the times of the Gentiles is complete."

Define "complete " and you will have understanding.

Those left behind are the last of the church to enter heaven.

They enter via martyrdom.

Then the Jewish harvest
The trib Is for the Jews and those that are born again and left behind.

 

[rebuilder 454]

He didn't say unrepentant tho. Using your logic, the "unforgivable sin" contradicts John 3:16.

I don't know why people guess as to what the unforgivable sin is.
Jesus said what it is.

 

[JLB]

Then that is a contradiction of John 3:16 which promises salvation to anyone who repents. John 3:16 doesn't say "unless you receive the mark of the beast"

Read down a few more verses. You will see that once a person is born again, they must learn to obey Jesus Christ if they desire to remain in Christ.


He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him. John 3:36


John goes on to say…


Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 2 John 9


When you are ready to grow into eating meat, and get off the pablum, you will need to read more of the scriptures than just John 3:16



Here is how John instructs us to remain in Christ.


Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. 1 John 3:24

 

[JLB]

I don't know why people guess as to what the unforgivable sin is.
Jesus said what it is.

‘Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

 

[rebuilder 454]

‘Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

The Pharisees had just finished attributing Jesus's power to the devil.
Then Jesus invoked the unpardonable sin on them.
The blasphemy was claiming the power operating in him was not the Holy Spirit, but rather the devil.
( calling the power operating in a man of God a devil)
We see this today.
Nothing has changed.

 

[Marty fox]

This completely ignores the meaning of the Greek language used. The unforgivable sin is blasphemy of the HS, and that word means to insult etc. That's what happened in the example given where Christ does miracles through the HS but the Pharisees claim he used an evil spirit therefore insulting the HS.

mk 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
mk 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

G988
ß?asf?µ?´a
blasphe¯mia
Thayer Definition:
1) slander, detraction, speech injurious, to another’s good name
2) impious and reproachful speech injurious to divine majesty
Part of Speech: noun feminine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G989
Citing in TDNT: 1:621, 107

Do you not think rejecting the Holy Spirit is insulting to God?

In you view then, how come Paul who was a Pharisees who opposed and persecuted the church could repent?