LEFT BEHIND ... what to do?

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quietthinker

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I don't swallow anything theological. I am by nature skeptical, question and analyze everything.
I became a Christian in 1991, long before AI. This is just a recent advancement in computer technology that is quite fascinating. Of course, we don't need a teacher, we have the Holy Spirit. He gives truths in bits and pieces gradually. If you asked the Holy Spirit to summarize anything in life, would He give you a 500 word essay in 5 seconds? No. I think we can use AI but need to make sure the algorithms are not slanted one way or another. Grok, Elon Musk's new AI was created without boundaries or any bias left or right wing. It was asked a question about the odds that Evolution or spontaneous generation were possible. The answer was impossible. It actually reasoned that there must be a Creator, an Intellegent designer. Then it was asked about Jesus. The answer was also true.
When you say you don't swallow anything theological it reveals that you have no idea what is theological and what you have swallowed. The ideas you express indicate what you have swallowed but it appears you are oblivious to this.
 

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When you say you don't swallow anything theological it reveals that you have no idea what is theological and what you have swallowed. The ideas you express indicate what you have swallowed but it appears you are oblivious to this.
No, it just means I smell it first, take a bite, if it tastes good, I chew on it for awhile before swallowing, it allows the enzymes to do their work - you know, it's part of the digestion process.
But I chewed on your words long time ago - didn't like the taste so spit them out and told you to go on a "Walk about" in the desert, you know, like the Aborigines do, so they can think and be quiet.
 
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According to this it is the wicked who shall be taken and the righteous left.

Mt 13:40-43
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
That is the day of the GWTJ, not the day of the second coming.

The taken and left happen at the second coming where the righteous are taken, a reference to the rapture. The ones left are rejected by God and left to die, what the Greek word means and in Greek taken means to be accepted. Those terms/words are not used for the day of the GWTJ. Taken in the OD does not mean taken in death and left does not mean to be remaining as if triumphantly standing. Taken and left are simply raptured and not raptured.
 

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I didn't take the vax either. Some think that was the precursor to the mark. They have the chips now. A worldwide mandate will happen, people will get in line, but this time it's not a vaccine, no symptoms, there's no virus to fight off ... just a way to buy, sell and have control over society. It will be your worldwide ID linked to your bank, medical, personal info, where you are and your forsed allegiance to the One World Governmet led by the Beast. It's interesting that a massive computer system decades ago was called the Beast.
Think about the characters of God.

Would the very same God who saved Paul after he persecuted the church reject the repentance of a single mother who is on welfare and only takes the mark just to feed her four kids? Even if this very same mother after taking the mark heard about Jesus and then repented and was killed for telling people about Jesus?

Its about the heart not a literal mark
 

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That is the day of the GWTJ, not the day of the second coming.

The taken and left happen at the second coming where the righteous are taken, a reference to the rapture. The ones left are rejected by God and left to die, what the Greek word means and in Greek taken means to be accepted. Those terms/words are not used for the day of the GWTJ. Taken in the OD does not mean taken in death and left does not mean to be remaining as if triumphantly standing. Taken and left are simply raptured and not raptured.
It happens at the end of this age...not the one to come: "so shall it be in the end of this world"
 

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Please share how a literal mark contradicts John 3:16

Concerning the subject of "pre-trib rapture" @Ronald David Bruno is self-deceived as he rejects the words of Christ and the Apostles.

The 'literal mark' is already here but is yet to be implemented/made law, though the technology is being installed worldwide as we speak.

Many 'christians' will take the Mark as their pastors are already telling them to do so.

The pastors are saying that they will not be here for the Mark, therefore any technology that comes out whereby it is the only way to "Buy-n- Sell" is safe to accept/embrace.
Because John 3:16 doesn’t say unless they take the mark.
 

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It is both a spiritual condition of the heart, a rejection of Christ, a submission to the Beast, but also a physical mark. But how would you explain not being able to buybir sell unless you had the mark? Do you think have a spiritual detection unit at every cash register? In a cashless society, which they are already planning for, every person will be chipped. A very small injection of a micro chip. You scan it and you get groceries don't have it, you going fishing, hunt deer and/or grow your own food. If you had a farm, the government will come and take it from you so you'll go hungry without the mark.
A literal mark of the beast contradicts John 3:16 because John 3:16 doesn’t say unless you take the mark of the beast
 

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It happens at the end of this age...not the one to come: "so shall it be in the end of this world"


Yes, the GWTJ and LOF happen at the end of this mortal world, before the eternal age but not at the second coming. The TAKEN and LEFT occur at the second coming, not in the passage you quoted as if the TAKEN and LEFT happen on judgment day because they don't.
 

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A literal mark of the beast contradicts John 3:16 because John 3:16 doesn’t say unless you take the mark of the beast

Then the unforgivable sin would contradict John 3:16 too using your logic.
 

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Then the unforgivable sin would contradict John 3:16 too using your logic.
No it doesn’t its the unrepentant rejection of the Holy Spirit and John 3:16 is for whoever believes in Jesus
 

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Yes, the GWTJ and LOF happen at the end of this mortal world, before the eternal age but not at the second coming. The TAKEN and LEFT occur at the second coming, not in the passage you quoted as if the TAKEN and LEFT happen on judgment day because they don't.
The GWTJ happens at the end of the NEXT age...not this one. The judgement of Christ is the coming judgement at the end of THIS age.
 

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The stuff you are saying here, I never hear these things. I've been in pretrib circles for a long time, and I don't hear things like this.

Well, I do, actually, but it's always from those who are attempting to refute pretrib. And you seem to be adding in some partial rapture ideas.

The thing it seems to me that many people don't understand, just because we hold a pretrib position doesn't mean we have some warped view of tribulation, which is affliction, which is contrary circumstances which cause suffering. Some of it is caused by others, and some is caused simply by circumstances. That suffering can be prolonged and immense.

When Jesus said that this would be the time of greatest affliction this world has known, that doesn't mean no one will have ever suffered worse than these, rather, that there would be more than ever before.

Christians are being tortured and killed today, in all manner of horrible ways. I don't think it hurts less now because it's before the rapture. And of course not just Christians, all manner of people. But it will be greater then. More. Though when a man suffers, he suffers, no matter what the occasion.

Yes, we rejoice in our anticipation of being gathered together to Jesus. We rejoice in at last being free of all the constraints and adversity in this world. And we, just like you, are mindful of what the apostle wrote,

1 Peter 4:1 YLT
Christ, then, having suffered for us in the flesh, ye also with the same mind arm yourselves, because he who did suffer in the flesh hath done with sin,

Much love!
I'm sorry, but that sounds like a ridiculous answer. Your arguments?:
1) I haven't heard that one before... Well, actually I have. And it's against Pretrib, so....
2) The Tribulation Period you're describing isn't really different from suffering in the present age. Well, actually it is... It will be worse, or more.

What kind of argument is this? My complaint was based on over 50 years of reading about this material. None of it was made up by me except how I, as a Postrib, view Pretrib scenarios as inconsonant with the real biblical picture of the endtimes.

Yes, Pretribbers paint an extreme picture of what they see as the "Great Tribulation" in order to coerce Christians to become serious immediately, since they think the Rapture could happen anytime, and if they aren't ready they may have to face the Antichrist and all of God's Wrath to come down upon the world at that time. What about this isn't in all of the Pretrib movies??

But I believe the real, biblical "Great Tribulation" is the Jewish Diaspora of the NT age--not the Reign of Antichrist. And what makes this Tribulation for the Jews greater than any other is the fact is *lasts longer* than any other punishment the Jews have suffered. It began in 70 AD and ends with the 2nd Coming at the very end of the age.

Why do I say this? It's because this is how Jesus defined the "Great Tribulation" or the "Great Distress" in each of the Gospel accounts of the Olivet Discourse. This was a *Jewish Punishment* to begin in Jesus' generation and to begin with the fall of the Temple and the city of Jerusalem.

It would begin with the "People of the Prince to come" in Dan 9, who would "destroy the city and the sanctuary," named the "Abomination of Desolation" in vs. 27. Jesus used the same term which is described in Luke 21 as Jerusalem being surrounded by armies. And the Gospel accounts of the Olivet Discourse do point back to Daniel.

I've shared this definition of the "Great Tribulation," given by Jesus, many times. And nobody is able to refute it because it is precisely what Jesus said. I challenge anybody to question what is said here, defining the "Great Tribulation" as a Jewish Punishment to happen in Jesus' generation!....

Luke 21.20 “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. 22 For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. 23 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. 24 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled."

So, this is where you go wrong with your "more" suffering during the Reign of Antichrist. This "Great Tribulation" is not the Reign of Antichrist, his persecution of backslidden Christians at that time, and God's wrath to judge the Antichristian world. Rather, the Reign of Antichrist will just be the final antichrist among many in the present age. And instead of a variety of examples of God's wrath in the present age, the final wrath will be more encompassing, just like Noah's Flood encompassed an entire civilization.

That 3.5 year period will end with a bang because it will end with world judgment at the coming of Christ to destroy Antichrist with his word. So, at the very end it will be very extreme for the world, and that will be the worst for those under judgment. But for Christians who have bravely resisted Antichristianity in the world, it will mean Christ's return to rescue them. And for the Jews it will be the end of an age-long period of suffering, and the beginning of a great national revival at the return of their Messiah.
 
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Maybe you don't understand the verse?
The day of the Lord's return will not come until the Antichrist is revealed. This just means at this time, which could be at the same time. The Restrainer ( Holy Spirit) is taken out of the way, for the Antichrist to have full reign during his short time. Swe are and the Church is the Temple of the Holy Spirit, which will being taken out if the way. Evil on earth will he unrestrained during the Great Tribulation. But the Antichrist will deceive and appear to be a peace maker but he will be evil incarnate.
And you know what restrains him now, so that he will be revealed in his time.
For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is removed
. 2 Thes. 2:6-7
I Disagree With Your Claims, A Pre-Trib Rapture Isn't Found In Scripture, Your Can't Present One Verse In The Bible To Prove Otherwise
 

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The GWTJ happens at the end of the NEXT age...not this one. The judgement of Christ is the coming judgement at the end of THIS age.
The GWTJ takes place at the Lord's second coming immediately after the tribulation in fire and final judgement (The End) no millennial kingdom on this earth following
 
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Postribs Can Not unpack the 10 virgin parable, nor can they understand Jesus analogy of Noah, and Lot.

I am so glad I am not in that trap.

Jesus Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, At This Time The Resurrection Of "All" Takes Place (Then Cometh The End)​


Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end
, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The scripture above is in perfect agreement with Jesus being revealed in fire and brimstone as seen below (Then Cometh The End) as all the unsaved wicked are destroyed at the Lord's return

(Destroyed Them All)


Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


The resurrection of "All" is seen below and the wicked are judged to eternal damnation, this is when the "Final Judgement" takes place (The End)


John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth
; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Jesus clearly taught that the resurrection of "All" takes place on "The Last Day" this is in perfect agreement with the scripture above

John 6:39-40KJV

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
 

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No, it just means I smell it first, take a bite, if it tastes good, I chew on it for awhile before swallowing, it allows the enzymes to do their work - you know, it's part of the digestion process.
But I chewed on your words long time ago - didn't like the taste so spit them out and told you to go on a "Walk about" in the desert, you know, like the Aborigines do, so they can think and be quiet.
Could it be because you spat out my words you now are unaware of what constitutes healthy food.....as well as being unaware of what constitutes popular theology?
However, seeing you think you know, perhaps you could tell me what you think my primary thrust is?
 

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I posted what I believe are errors regarding the last days, things that do not take place...
There are several erroneous assumptions made by those who trust in some future rapture as an escape pod from having to endure persecution and troubles. The coming crisis that is coming upon the whole of mankind is one of deception. The rapture theory is one of those deceptions.
Some errors just in this thread are countered by the following truths...
  • When Jesus returns the only ones left behind after the remnant are taken to heaven are dead...
  • The tribulation and final crisis will be something we all live through except we pass away naturally first...
  • The coming millennium which begins at Christ's coming does not consist of any activity on this planet... Everyone's either dead or in heaven...
  • Accepting or rejecting the mark of the beast is a choice everyone will need to make... Including God's people.
  • Only the beast itself is qualified to define what it's mark is... You are wasting your time using your imagination...
  • Those who accept the mark of the beast will not be thinking, 'this is the mark of the beast'. Some will accept it conscientiously and gladly (in the forehead/conscience/mind... frontal lobe ) as a token of their fidelity and faithfulness to who they think is the true God, most will accept it in their hand because everyone else is, ist convenient, its warranted, is for la the common good, it will help heal the planet, it will be illegal to reject it.
now I will tell what I do believe will take place... With the appropriate scriptures of course....

When Jesus returns He takes His bride home to meet His Father...

“1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. ”
John 14:1-4 KJV

Prior to His coming, the world is in crisis. Revelation explains that the sea beast of chapter 13 is in charge, placed there by the land beast, and his mark of authority compelling all the world to worship according to his man made traditions. This climaxes with the death penalty upon all who have refused to partake of such worship. In the meantime, other incentives are at play. First, mild penalties and warnings. Fines maybe. Jail. Cut off from all human support and monetary advantages. By now there's a global system in place, purely digital, that allows the authorities to cut you out of the system. No work, like what is being implemented in Britain as we speak. No income, no buying or selling, like what was implemented in India not long ago but with disastrous results. Like what is now accepted in China, along with massive surveillance and control and loss of basic human liberties such as travel, association, and free speech. All are taking place now all over the world, as a precursor to what is to come. I understand the desire not to be here when the poop hits the fan. But you will be. And you need to prepare now. Hoarding won't cut it. Having your own garden and growing your own food will help, until it's illegal. Moving out of the cities and into the country would be a great step by isolating yourself from the coming riots and civil unrest and violence these measures will inevitably engender. But that's not enough. The government knows where you are. You cannot hide. The only protection and surety of well-being is in your relationship with Jesus.

“14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings? 15 He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil; 16 He shall dwell on high: his place of defence shall be the munitions of rocks: bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure. ”
Isaiah 33:14-16 KJV
 

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I posted what I believe are errors regarding the last days, things that do not take place...

now I will tell what I do believe will take place... With the appropriate scriptures of course....

When Jesus returns He takes His bride home to meet His Father...

“1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. ”
John 14:1-4 KJV

Prior to His coming, the world is in crisis. Revelation explains that the sea beast of chapter 13 is in charge, placed there by the land beast, and his mark of authority compelling all the world to worship according to his man made traditions. This climaxes with the death penalty upon all who have refused to partake of such worship. In the meantime, other incentives are at play. First, mild penalties and warnings. Fines maybe. Jail. Cut off from all human support and monetary advantages. By now there's a global system in place, purely digital, that allows the authorities to cut you out of the system. No work, like what is being implemented in Britain as we speak. No income, no buying or selling, like what was implemented in India not long ago but with disastrous results. Like what is now accepted in China, along with massive surveillance and control and loss of basic human liberties such as travel, association, and free speech. All are taking place now all over the world, as a precursor to what is to come. I understand the desire not to be here when the poop hits the fan. But you will be. And you need to prepare now. Hoarding won't cut it. Having your own garden and growing your own food will help, until it's illegal. Moving out of the cities and into the country would be a great step by isolating yourself from the coming riots and civil unrest and violence these measures will inevitably engender. But that's not enough. The government knows where you are. You cannot hide. The only protection and surety of well-being is in your relationship with Jesus.

“14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings? 15 He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil; 16 He shall dwell on high: his place of defence shall be the munitions of rocks: bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure. ”
Isaiah 33:14-16 KJV
It's not Sunday worship you should fear...but the false prophecies and errant scripture interpretations of Ellen White.
 
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Continuing...

The much discussed future millennium is real, and as many know, it begins with the second coming. But it doesn't consist of what you think. After the tribulation and the second coming, the entire planet will be uninhabitable.



“19 My bowels, my bowels! I am pained at my very heart; my heart maketh a noise in me; I cannot hold my peace, because thou hast heard, O my soul, the sound of the trumpet, the alarm of war. 20 Destruction upon destruction is cried; for the whole land is spoiled: suddenly are my tents spoiled, and my curtains in a moment. 21 How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet? 22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge. 23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. 24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. 25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. 26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger. 27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end. 28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black: because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it. 29 The whole city shall flee for the noise of the horsemen and bowmen; they shall go into thickets, and climb up upon the rocks: every city shall be forsaken, and not a man dwell therein. ”

Jeremiah 4:19-29 KJV




Now, some will say, that's only for Israel. If so, why are you so fixated to go there? Isn't God the defender of Israel? Yet here we have God promising a reckoning. But it isn't only Israel....



15 For thus saith the LORD God of Israel unto me; Take the wine cup of this fury at my hand, and cause all the nations, to whom I send thee, to drink it. 16 And they shall drink, and be moved, and be mad, because of the sword that I will send among them. 17 Then took I the cup at the LORD'S hand, and made all the nations to drink, unto whom the LORD had sent me: 18 To wit, Jerusalem, and the cities of Judah, and the kings thereof, and the princes thereof, to make them a desolation, an astonishment, an hissing, and a curse; as it is this day; 19 Pharaoh king of Egypt, and his servants, and his princes, and all his people; 20 And all the mingled people, and all the kings of the land of Uz, and all the kings of the land of the Philistines, and Ashkelon, and Azzah, and Ekron, and the remnant of Ashdod, 21 Edom, and Moab, and the children of Ammon, 22 And all the kings of Tyrus, and all the kings of Zidon, and the kings of the isles which are beyond the sea, 23 Dedan, and Tema, and Buz, and all that are in the utmost corners, 24 And all the kings of Arabia, and all the kings of the mingled people that dwell in the desert, 25 And all the kings of Zimri, and all the kings of Elam, and all the kings of the Medes, 26 And all the kings of the north, far and near, one with another, and all the kingdoms of the world, which are upon the face of the earth: and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them. 27 Therefore thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Drink ye, and be drunken, and spue, and fall, and rise no more, because of the sword which I will send among you. 28 And it shall be, if they refuse to take the cup at thine hand to drink, then shalt thou say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Ye shall certainly drink. 29 For, lo, I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name, and should ye be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished: for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth, saith the LORD of hosts. 30 Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words, and say unto them, The LORD shall roar from on high, and utter his voice from his holy habitation; he shall mightily roar upon his habitation; he shall give a shout, as they that tread the grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth. 31 A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth; for the LORD hath a controversy with the nations, he will plead with all flesh; he will give them that are wicked to the sword, saith the LORD. 32 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth. 33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground. ”

Jeremiah 25:15-33 KJV

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1 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof. 2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. 3 The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word. 4 The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish. 5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. 6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left. 19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. 20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again. 21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth. 22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited. 23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously. ”

Isaiah 24:1-6, 19-23 KJV Unfeigned Bible


God's people shall be present to witness the evil that prevails upon the planet. The wars, the destruction, the cruelty, the mindless selfishness and violence will be global, and man will destroy himself. As Jesus said, "as in the days of Noah, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." What characterised the days of Noah?

“5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 11 The earth also was corrupt before God; and the earth was filled with violence. 12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. ”
Genesis 6:5, 11-12 KJV
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“4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) 9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: ”
2 Peter 2:4-9 KJV

“3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. ”



2 Peter 3:3-14 KJV