LINE UPON LINE BIBLE STUDY

[Davy]

Have you noticed very few Churches today teach all of God's Word line upon line, chapter by chapter?

Most are instead pulling single verses out of God's Word, and a lot of the time they preach a subject that has nothing to do with the context of where those singles verses appear in a Bible chapter. Nothing wrong with a Bible topic preaching, as long as the verses used actually fit the chapter's topic. But too often they do not, but instead fit are simply used to fit the specific denomination's system organizational creeds.

I've even had some brethren ask me why they cannot get a line upon line, chapter by chapter Bible teaching in their Church's Sunday School. I told them to ask the teacher when they're going to start covering The Bible starting in Genesis and go all the way through. One brother did ask their teacher that, and the teacher laughed at him, and said something like, "Well you must think we have all the time in the world!" That was the response he said he got.

Our Heavenly Father covered this problem of those who do not cover His Word line upon line in the Isaiah 28 chapter. He was speaking it specifically to the leaders of His people in Jerusalem, and to Ephraim, yet the Scripture also has pointers directly about the end of this world in the Book of Revelation.

Isa 28:1-12
1 Woe to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim, whose glorious beauty is a fading flower, which are on the head of the fat valleys of them that are overcome with wine!
2 Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one, which as a tempest of hail and a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters overflowing, shall cast down to the earth with the hand.
3 The crown of pride, the drunkards of Ephraim, shall be trodden under feet:
4 And the glorious beauty, which is on the head of the fat valley, shall be a fading flower, and as the hasty fruit before the summer; which when he that looketh upon it seeth, while it is yet in his hand he eateth it up.

Per 1 Kings 11, God would split old Israel into two separate kingdoms in the days of Rehoboam, king of Judah, Solomon's son. God gave ten tribes to Jeroboam then, who was born of the tribe of Ephraim. So Ephraim here represents the northern ten tribe "kingdom of Israel" under Jeroboam and its later kings. But it is also for the latter days when Ephraim would become "a multitude of nations" per Genesis 48.

Verse 2 should be an eye-opener, if you've studied our Lord Jesus' Book of Revelation, particularly the Revelation 12 chapter which points to a future time of Satan and his angels being cast down to this earth for the latter days. In that chapter, Christ gives a comparison to that old serpent and dragon with waters as a flood coming out of his mouth after the symbolic woman. That is this "mighty and strong one" God is pointing to here in Isaiah 28:2, so He is thus pointing to the end of this world timing about Ephraim and who Ephraim represents in the latter days (i.e., Christ's Church where a good majority of the ten lost tribes migrated to the West, and became the early Church.)

Verses 3 and 4 above are pointing to Ephraim in the latter days, for God's Birthright fell upon the sons of Joseph in final, with the double portion going to Ephraim, and his seed was to become "a multitude of nations" (Genesis 48). Ephraim represents the 'head' of the fat valley, pointing to God's Birthright blessings upon them. But here, God shows Ephraim's fall in the latter days, and is no doubt why Ephraim's name is omitted from the list of tribes in Revelation 7 for the last days.

5 In that day shall the LORD of hosts be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty, unto the residue of His people,
6 And for a spirit of judgment to him that sitteth in judgment, and for strength to them that turn the battle to the gate.

But for the remnant which God called, to them He shall be for "a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty" to His elect remnant in the latter days.

7 But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.
8 For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.

Further down in verse 14, God points out specifically that He is speaking this to the rulers in Jerusalem in Isaiah's day. So why is God first covering about Ephraim? It is because God is getting ready to reveal the MAIN REASON WHY BOTH EPHRAIM AND JUDAH fall backwards, and become snared in deception. And our Heavenly Father is pointing directly to the priest and the prophet that have erred through strong drink, which I believe is more in the spiritual drunkenness sense than in the physical sense (see 1 Thessalonians 5).

9 Whom shall He teach knowledge? and whom shall He make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will He speak to this people.
12 To whom He said, "This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear."
KJV

God is actually mocking those leaders, using their own words against them, like they say that, "For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:". In the Hebrew it sounds like a rhyming song...

lav lazav, zav lazav
kav lakav, kav lakav
zer sham, zer sham

God is pointing to His Word. That is what 'they' say must be precept upon precept, line upon line... in a mocking of covering His Word like that. Yet God said in verse 12 that way of His Word is where His 'rest' lay, that the teacher can cause the weary to rest, and that is the refreshing, "yet they would not hear". They refuse to cover His Word His way.

Isa 28:13
13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
KJV

God is admitting that His Word is that way, only truly understood by covering it precept upon precept, line upon line, here a little and there a little. I'm not joking. Sometimes God's Word can cover past, present, and future in just one single verse. How are you fixed to recognize that in His Word? Do you grasp that when it happens, or just bypass it?

And because understanding in His Word is... that way, it causes the rebellious who refuse that line upon line study to "fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken." What's that mean? It means deception to the false one, especially for the very end of this world in our near future for the great tribulation.

Cont.

 

[Davy]

Isa 28:14-22
14 Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.
15 Because ye have said, "We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:"

God spoke that above to the leaders in Jerusalem, but for when? Both in Isaiah's day, and for the very end of this world also. What event is to happen in Jerusalem for the end that Lord Jesus and His Apostles warned us about? The coming Antichrist to Jerusalem to play God (2 Thessalonians 2; Matthew 24:23-26). Per Daniel 11, a "vile person" is to make a "league" with a small group of men in Jerusalem for the end, and it shows animal sacrifices started up again in Jerusalem, and the existence of another Jewish temple in Jerusalem for when that "vile person" ends those sacrifices, and instead places the "abomination that maketh desolate" inside that future temple in Jerusalem. That... is this "covenant with death" those leaders in Jerusalem will have made for the future tribulation.


16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation, a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

Of course our Heavenly Father is pointing directly to our Lord Jesus Christ with that, the Chief Cornerstone Which the builders rejected (Ephesians 2:20; 1 Peter 2:6-8).

17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
19 From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.
20 For the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it: and the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it.

That above is God's continued warnings to both houses of Israel for the end, i.e., Ephraim (ten tribes) and Judah (Jews).

21 For the LORD shall rise up as in mount Perazim, He shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that He may do His work, His strange work; and bring to pass His act, His strange act.
22 Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth.
KJV

That "consumption, even determined upon the whole earth", is about God's consuming fire ending this present world per Peter in 2 Peter 3:10. That is when God is going to "rise up" again, and accomplish His "strange work", His "strange act", ending this present world on the "day of the Lord" when Jesus returns to gather His faithful remnant.

 

[Pearl]

Good gracious! Are you writing a book?

 

[Davy]

Good gracious! Are you writing a book?

That is so... funny!

The very matter and problem among many brethren I covered above is about those who refuse to cover God's Word like He said...

"precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little."

And you make a statement as if I was writing a book? Very funny, you were joking, right? If you weren't joking, then 'you' fit the profile of those whom God was talking about that refuse His Word like that, "precept upon precept" method.

 

[Behold]

Have you noticed very few Churches today teach all of God's Word line upon line, chapter by chapter?

Thats not the Pastor's Job to do from the Pulpit.
Notice that Jesus never taught the Torah, line by line, etc?
That's a Teachers Job, in the NT...... and you have "bible classes" and you have "Sunday School", and so forth, in many Churches.

 

[Pearl]

That is so... funny!

The very matter and problem among many brethren I covered above is about those who refuse to cover God's Word like He said...

"precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little."

And you make a statement as if I was writing a book? Very funny, you were joking, right? If you weren't joking, then 'you' fit the profile of those whom God was talking about that refuse His Word like that, "precept upon precept" method.

I was joking - hence the emojies. But I hardly ever read such long posts. And I certainly do not refuse God's Word. Be blessed,

 

[Jay Ross]

Hello

Isaiah 28 is encouraging the Israelites not to build their understanding of God Line upon line or precept upon precept because it will lead them to destruction and the second death.

We are not to build our understanding of God line upon line from our own understanding, but only from the word of God.

Shalom

 

[marks]

Isaiah 28:1-13 KJV
1) Woe to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim, whose glorious beauty is a fading flower, which are on the head of the fat valleys of them that are overcome with wine!
2) Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one, which as a tempest of hail and a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters overflowing, shall cast down to the earth with the hand.
3) The crown of pride, the drunkards of Ephraim, shall be trodden under feet:
4) And the glorious beauty, which is on the head of the fat valley, shall be a fading flower, and as the hasty fruit before the summer; which when he that looketh upon it seeth, while it is yet in his hand he eateth it up.
5) In that day shall the LORD of hosts be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty, unto the residue of his people,
6) And for a spirit of judgment to him that sitteth in judgment, and for strength to them that turn the battle to the gate.
7) But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.
8) For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.
9) Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10) For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
11) For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
12) To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
13) But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

From the NLT:

8 Their tables are covered with vomit; filth is everywhere.
9 “Who does the Lord think we are?” they ask. “Why does he speak to us like this? Are we little children, just recently weaned?
10 He tells us everything over and over— one line at a time, one line at a time, a little here, and a little there!”
11 So now God will have to speak to his people through foreign oppressors who speak a strange language!
12 God has told his people, “Here is a place of rest; let the weary rest here. This is a place of quiet rest.” But they would not listen.
13 So the Lord will spell out his message for them again, one line at a time, one line at a time, a little here, and a little there, so that they will stumble and fall. They will be injured, trapped, and captured.

From the NET:

8 Indeed, all the tables are covered with vomit, with filth, leaving no clean place.
9 Who is the Lord trying to teach? To whom is he explaining a message? To those just weaned from milk! To those just taken from their mother’s breast!
10 Indeed, they will hear meaningless gibberish, senseless babbling, a syllable here, a syllable there.
11 For with mocking lips and a foreign tongue he will speak to these people.
12 In the past he said to them, “This is where security can be found. Provide security for the one who is exhausted. This is where rest can be found. But they refused to listen.
13 So the Lord’s message to them will sound like meaningless gibberish, senseless babbling, a syllable here, a syllable there. As a result, they will fall on their backsides when they try to walk, and be injured, ensnared, and captured.

This isn't a "lesson plan for Scripture". This was God's way of ensnaring those who refused to listen to God, to ensure they would be taken.

Much love!

 

[Davy]

Hello

Isaiah 28 is encouraging the Israelites not to build their understanding of God Line upon line or precept upon precept because it will lead them to destruction and the second death.

We are not to build our understanding of God line upon line from our own understanding, but only from the word of God.

Shalom

That's truly funny too, because God is rebuking them for doing JUST THE OPPOSITE OF THAT! We 'know' this for sure by the following verse...

Isa 28:13
13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
KJV

What made them fall backwards, broken, and snared, and taken? Because God's Word IS... only understood precept upon precept, line upon line.

That was Apostle Peter's Message also...

1 Peter 2:6-8
6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, 'Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on Him shall not be confounded.'

7 Unto you therefore which believe He is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
KJV

Peter quoted from the very Isaiah 28:16 verse. God's Word had become a stone of stumbling them, and it's the same today for those who refuse... to cover His Word line upon line, chapter by chapter.

 

[Jay Ross]

Good day @Davy

Did you not read this: -

This isn't a "lesson plan for Scripture". This was God's way of ensnaring those who refused to listen to God, to ensure they would be taken.

He is saying the same thing that I said.

Oh well, you just might get it one day.

Good day

 

[marks]

Good day @Davy

Did you not read this: -



He is saying the same thing that I said.

Oh well, you just might get it one day.

Good day

Maybe if you and I are saying the same thing, we MUST have it right!



Much love!

 

[Jay Ross]

Maybe if you and I are saying the same thing, we MUST have it right!



Much love!

That is a bit unusual, isn't it?

 

[Lambano]

Isa 28:13
13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
KJV

What made them fall backwards, broken, and snared, and taken? Because God's Word IS... only understood precept upon precept, line upon line.

Oh, good grief! That's not what this verse is saying at all!

Look at the context. The Word of the Lord was to Israel, "Sav lasav, sav lasav, kav lakav, kav lakav, z'er sam, z'er sam", and it led to them stumbling into the Babylonian exile.

It's saying that reading the Bible like that is NOT a good thing. Note the droning on and on and on. "Sav lasav, sav lazsav, kav lakav, kav lakav, z'er sam, z'er sam". Reading the Bible as just a book of rules, line and line, precept and precept, here a little, there a little, is deadening to the soul. Don't do it!

 

[Robert Gwin]

Have you noticed very few Churches today teach all of God's Word line upon line, chapter by chapter?

Most are instead pulling single verses out of God's Word, and a lot of the time they preach a subject that has nothing to do with the context of where those singles verses appear in a Bible chapter. Nothing wrong with a Bible topic preaching, as long as the verses used actually fit the chapter's topic. But too often they do not, but instead fit are simply used to fit the specific denomination's system organizational creeds.

I've even had some brethren ask me why they cannot get a line upon line, chapter by chapter Bible teaching in their Church's Sunday School. I told them to ask the teacher when they're going to start covering The Bible starting in Genesis and go all the way through. One brother did ask their teacher that, and the teacher laughed at him, and said something like, "Well you must think we have all the time in the world!" That was the response he said he got.

Our Heavenly Father covered this problem of those who do not cover His Word line upon line in the Isaiah 28 chapter. He was speaking it specifically to the leaders of His people in Jerusalem, and to Ephraim, yet the Scripture also has pointers directly about the end of this world in the Book of Revelation.

Isa 28:1-12
1 Woe to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim, whose glorious beauty is a fading flower, which are on the head of the fat valleys of them that are overcome with wine!
2 Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one, which as a tempest of hail and a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters overflowing, shall cast down to the earth with the hand.
3 The crown of pride, the drunkards of Ephraim, shall be trodden under feet:
4 And the glorious beauty, which is on the head of the fat valley, shall be a fading flower, and as the hasty fruit before the summer; which when he that looketh upon it seeth, while it is yet in his hand he eateth it up.

Per 1 Kings 11, God would split old Israel into two separate kingdoms in the days of Rehoboam, king of Judah, Solomon's son. God gave ten tribes to Jeroboam then, who was born of the tribe of Ephraim. So Ephraim here represents the northern ten tribe "kingdom of Israel" under Jeroboam and its later kings. But it is also for the latter days when Ephraim would become "a multitude of nations" per Genesis 48.

Verse 2 should be an eye-opener, if you've studied our Lord Jesus' Book of Revelation, particularly the Revelation 12 chapter which points to a future time of Satan and his angels being cast down to this earth for the latter days. In that chapter, Christ gives a comparison to that old serpent and dragon with waters as a flood coming out of his mouth after the symbolic woman. That is this "mighty and strong one" God is pointing to here in Isaiah 28:2, so He is thus pointing to the end of this world timing about Ephraim and who Ephraim represents in the latter days (i.e., Christ's Church where a good majority of the ten lost tribes migrated to the West, and became the early Church.)

Verses 3 and 4 above are pointing to Ephraim in the latter days, for God's Birthright fell upon the sons of Joseph in final, with the double portion going to Ephraim, and his seed was to become "a multitude of nations" (Genesis 48). Ephraim represents the 'head' of the fat valley, pointing to God's Birthright blessings upon them. But here, God shows Ephraim's fall in the latter days, and is no doubt why Ephraim's name is omitted from the list of tribes in Revelation 7 for the last days.

5 In that day shall the LORD of hosts be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty, unto the residue of His people,
6 And for a spirit of judgment to him that sitteth in judgment, and for strength to them that turn the battle to the gate.

But for the remnant which God called, to them He shall be for "a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty" to His elect remnant in the latter days.

7 But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.
8 For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.

Further down in verse 14, God points out specifically that He is speaking this to the rulers in Jerusalem in Isaiah's day. So why is God first covering about Ephraim? It is because God is getting ready to reveal the MAIN REASON WHY BOTH EPHRAIM AND JUDAH fall backwards, and become snared in deception. And our Heavenly Father is pointing directly to the priest and the prophet that have erred through strong drink, which I believe is more in the spiritual drunkenness sense than in the physical sense (see 1 Thessalonians 5).

9 Whom shall He teach knowledge? and whom shall He make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will He speak to this people.
12 To whom He said, "This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear."
KJV

God is actually mocking those leaders, using their own words against them, like they say that, "For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:". In the Hebrew it sounds like a rhyming song...

lav lazav, zav lazav
kav lakav, kav lakav
zer sham, zer sham

God is pointing to His Word. That is what 'they' say must be precept upon precept, line upon line... in a mocking of covering His Word like that. Yet God said in verse 12 that way of His Word is where His 'rest' lay, that the teacher can cause the weary to rest, and that is the refreshing, "yet they would not hear". They refuse to cover His Word His way.

Isa 28:13
13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
KJV

God is admitting that His Word is that way, only truly understood by covering it precept upon precept, line upon line, here a little and there a little. I'm not joking. Sometimes God's Word can cover past, present, and future in just one single verse. How are you fixed to recognize that in His Word? Do you grasp that when it happens, or just bypass it?

And because understanding in His Word is... that way, it causes the rebellious who refuse that line upon line study to "fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken." What's that mean? It means deception to the false one, especially for the very end of this world in our near future for the great tribulation.

Cont.

Studies have to be organized for sure Davy, and logically taking in knowledge by subject is superior to a line by line study for beginning students in particular. Of course for vastly more experienced students, then a line by line study can help them immensely. I would like to suggest a link to you, although not every verse is covered, we have a new research guide that does comment on many verses helping greatly in our understanding of what is being said, also a version with a concordance is extremely valuable. The link for the research guide is: https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/Research-Guide-for-Jehovahs-Witnesses-2019-Edition/

 

[marks]

Oh, good grief! That's not what this verse is saying at all!

Look at the context. The Word of the Lord was to Israel, "Sav lasav, sav lasav, kav lakav, kav lakav, z'er sam, z'er sam", and it led to them stumbling into the Babylonian exile.

It's saying that reading the Bible like that is NOT a good thing. Note the droning on and on and on. "Sav lasav, sav lazsav, kav lakav, kav lakav, z'er sam, z'er sam". Reading the Bible as just a book of rules, line and line, precept and precept, here a little, there a little, is deadening to the soul. Don't do it!

Somewhere I've read that this can be understood as saying, The Word of the Lord was to them like "goo goo, ga ga, goo goo ga ga". You hear it like babies, so I'm going to give it to you like babies, and like babies you will fall.

Much love!

 

[Davy]

Good day @Davy

Did you not read this: -

He is saying the same thing that I said.

Oh well, you just might get it one day.

Good day

If you meant your statements in your previous post in the OPPOSITE sense, you should have said so.

As for your speculation, I do not agree, God did not make His Word to be line upon line on purpose just so they would fall backward and be taken. Their own pride and haughtiness is what caused them to stray from that line upon line method, thinking they were too smart for that, just like the Sunday School teacher my friend asked to cover all of The Bible and the teacher said, "Well, you must think we have all the time in the world!", laughing at the same time he said it (according to my friend who asked him).

E.W. Bullinger has an interesting note on that Isaiah 28:10 verse, which is to show an example of 'their mocking'...

"Isaiah 28:10
For = For [say they] mimicking the prophet as though he were teaching little children in a school.

must be: or, [hath been]. The verse then reads:

"For it is zav lazav
kav lakav, kav lakav
ze'er sham, ze'er sham."

The Figures Epizeuxis and Paronomasia (Ap. 6), for emphasis. It may be Englished by: "Law upon law, Saw upon saw".
(from E. W. Bullinger's Companion Bible: Notes and Appendices. Biblesoft Formatted Electronic Database Copyright © 2014 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)

 

[Davy]

Oh, good grief! That's not what this verse is saying at all!

Look at the context. The Word of the Lord was to Israel, "Sav lasav, sav lasav, kav lakav, kav lakav, z'er sam, z'er sam", and it led to them stumbling into the Babylonian exile.

It's saying that reading the Bible like that is NOT a good thing. Note the droning on and on and on. "Sav lasav, sav lazsav, kav lakav, kav lakav, z'er sam, z'er sam". Reading the Bible as just a book of rules, line and line, precept and precept, here a little, there a little, is deadening to the soul. Don't do it!

And there is another one that has completely... missed the Message from God there in Isaiah 28 about Israel's rebellion against His Word line upon line.


You heard it folks, Lambano thinks we are NOT to read God's Word line upon line, word for word, which of course goes directly against what Scripture folks? --

Jesus quoting from Deuteronomy 8:3...

Matt 4:4
4 But He answered and said, "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."
KJV

 

[VictoryinJesus]

10 Indeed, they will hear meaningless gibberish, senseless babbling, a syllable here, a syllable there.
11 For with mocking lips and a foreign tongue he will speak to these people.
12 In the past he said to them, “This is where security can be found. Provide security for the one who is exhausted. This is where rest can be found. But they refused to listen.
13 So the Lord’s message to them will sound like meaningless gibberish, senseless babbling, a syllable here, a syllable there. As a result, they will fall on their backsides when they try to walk, and be injured, ensnared, and captured.

This isn't a "lesson plan for Scripture". This was God's way of ensnaring those who refused to listen to God, to ensure they would be taken.

all your versions makes me think of so many verses. I’ve never understood if it is a good thing “line upon line” that we want to go around quoting, or a bad thing because of where it says that they may be ensnared and captured. Which does make me think of where His word says that what should have been for their benefit has returned to them a curse. I’m not sure that is exactly what it says because I can’t find the verse.

consider So the Lord’s message to them will sound like meaningless gibberish, senseless babbling, a syllable here, a syllable there. As a result, they will fall on their backsides when they try to walk, and be injured, ensnared, and captured.

Job 5:13-14 Eliphaz the termanite…He takes the wise in their own craftiness: and the counsel of the froward is carried headlong. They groupe in the noonday as in the night.
1 Corinthians 3:19

Deuteronomy 28:25-28 and you shall groupe in darkness, and you shall not prosper in your ways: and you shall be oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save you.

Job 12:25 Job…They groupe in the dark without light, and he makes them to stagger like a drunken man.

Isaiah 59:10-11 we groupe for the wall (or our salvation Isaiah 60:18-20) like the blind, and we groupe as if we had no eyes (Galatians 4:15 Where is then the blessedness you spoke of? for I bear you record, that, if it had been possible, you would have plucked out your own eyes, and have given them to me.)
: we stumble at noonday as in the night, we are in desolate places as dead men.


1 Corinthians 4:2, Ephesians 4:14

 

[Davy]

all your versions makes me think of so many verses. I’ve never understood if it is a good thing “line upon line” that we want to go around quoting, or a bad thing because of where it says that they may be ensnared and captured. Which does make me think of where His word says that what should have been for their benefit has returned to them a curse. I’m not sure that is exactly what it says because I can’t find the verse.
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Thinking that Isaiah 28 Scripture is a Message to NOT do line upon line Bible study is exactly... what the babel preachers today want one to think. That way, they can pull a single verse out of a chapter's context and teach whatever doctrine they want with it. What can prevent them from doing that mistreatment of God's Holy Writ?

Staying in God's Word LINE UPON LINE, CHAPTER BY CHAPTER.

This really should not take a lot of common sense to figure out. So I'm surprised at those who allow themselves to be deceived by those hirelings whom God did not call that just preach as a business.

 

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Thinking that Isaiah 28 Scripture is a Message to NOT do line upon line Bible study is exactly...

Simply stated, Isaiah 28 isn't a recommendation for a teaching method, it's the description of how certain people were infantile in their understanding.

Much love!